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Post by dock66 on Feb 12, 2007 12:13:41 GMT -7
Yes Myles,I kept the vol and gain below noon,just to be on a safe. ;D I bet that sounded pretty terrific. ;D All smile, Myles.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 17, 2007 20:20:18 GMT -7
Congrats on the amp Steve! How does it initially compare to the Flexi-50? Well I finally got a chance to A/B these two amps. They are not even the same animal according to my ears. Of course the underlying architectures of the two amps is very VERY different, so it's no surprise they behave differently. The SRZ is very much in the Marshall camp with tons of gain available. I have to say I really like the way the SRZ responds to my PRS slide setup - best slide tone I've heard in my studio. And the SRZ is also stronger in the area of harmonic content on double-stops or chords. You can also get that sustaining feedback thing going on way easier with the SRZ which would explain why it seems so great for slide. The Flexi is more of its own thing tone-wise, also with tons of gain available, but different from the SRZ. I think the Flexi is a bit more articulate with the guitars I use here. It seems to me the Flexi can run with more gain and you can still distinguish every note. The Flexi has never really done that sustaining feedback thing at all here. OTOH, I think the Flexi rules on individual note playing. Fascinating. So what I've discovered is that I can find a use for both, in different situations. If I'm using the amp mainly for slide, or if I'm playing mostly high gain chords and double-stops, I think the SRZ is the clear choice. If I'm using an A/B/Y to take higher gain solos, I'll use the Flexi. Of course, in all cases, the clean tones get done with the Stingray, and I doubt any other amp can challenge that setup!
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Post by myles on Feb 18, 2007 17:36:33 GMT -7
Steve,
It is always a good thing to have two different amps with two different uses!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 18, 2007 17:46:47 GMT -7
Steve, It is always a good thing to have two different amps with two different uses! Yessir! And if four can do it, four's twice as good as two!
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Post by sonicgator on Feb 18, 2007 18:08:50 GMT -7
Congrats on the amp Steve! How does it initially compare to the Flexi-50? Of course, in all cases, the clean tones get done with the Stingray, and I doubt any other amp can challenge that setup! There is something really magical happening with the Ray's tone. The clean sounds coming through them sound like there is a built in chorus circuit because the tone is so rich, full, and dynamic...and I don't even own one yet! Unless the new 6L6 model upstages the Ray when it comes out, the SRZ-65 + Ray setup is what I would like to have to A/B.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 19, 2007 21:12:04 GMT -7
Of course, in all cases, the clean tones get done with the Stingray, and I doubt any other amp can challenge that setup! There is something really magical happening with the Ray's tone. The clean sounds coming through them sound like there is a built in chorus circuit because the tone is so rich, full, and dynamic...and I don't even own one yet! Unless the new 6L6 model upstages the Ray when it comes out, the SRZ-65 + Ray setup is what I would like to have to A/B. Wow, I just spent an hour with the SRZ and my PRS Singlecut, and did some A/Bing there with the Flexi, and with THAT guitar, the SRZ just rocks! Not only does it have that great sustaining thing going on, the tone and articulation are just amazing with this guitar. Wow, making me turn my head a little bit! I can play the intro chords to White Room and the guitar/amp just sings, exactly like the recording. Wow! Did I say WOW yet? WOW! ;D
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Post by taswegian on Feb 19, 2007 21:57:46 GMT -7
La La La La La...not listening!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by LeftyLang on Feb 19, 2007 22:02:24 GMT -7
La La La La La...not listening!!! ;D ;D ;D +1 ;D
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 19, 2007 22:25:30 GMT -7
La La La La La...not listening!!! ;D ;D ;D Try it like this:
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Post by taswegian on Feb 19, 2007 22:43:33 GMT -7
Benttop, you'll have to give us a SRZ LE vs 65 side of the 6545 sometime. (apologies if you already have)
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 19, 2007 23:02:10 GMT -7
Benttop, you'll have to give us a SRZ LE vs 65 side of the 6545 sometime. (apologies if you already have) Actually I did post some impressions. The short story is that the bias was way off on the 6545, and once I corrected that and swapped out some preamp tubes, the two amps sound almost identical. The SRZ can get a slight bit brighter (owing to the Presence control) and has just a tad more gain. With all knobs in the same position, the 6545 volume dimed and the SRZ volume at 3 o'clock, it's really down to the differences in the tones of the tubes. In addition, once the power amp was running properly, the KT-45 side woke up big time. Before it was sterile clean, now you can crank it up for plenty of grind. So getting the SRZ was a good thing - it made me pop the hood on the 6545 and find out why I hadn't bonded with it. NOW it literally smokes. Expect some clips soon as I work up an idea. So I have some decisions to make, but for the minute I'm enjoying having all these great amps to sleep with... er. play. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Feb 19, 2007 23:43:59 GMT -7
So getting the SRZ was a good thing - it made me pop the hood on the 6545 and find out why I hadn't bonded with it. NOW it literally smokes. Expect some clips soon as I work up an idea. So I have some decisions to make, but for the minute I'm enjoying having all these great amps to sleep with... er. play. Yeah, that's the ticket. Uh oh... is there a 6545 thats gonna be available in the near future??
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 19, 2007 23:59:03 GMT -7
So getting the SRZ was a good thing - it made me pop the hood on the 6545 and find out why I hadn't bonded with it. NOW it literally smokes. Expect some clips soon as I work up an idea. So I have some decisions to make, but for the minute I'm enjoying having all these great amps to sleep with... er. play. Yeah, that's the ticket. Uh oh... is there a 6545 thats gonna be available in the near future?? It is possible, but you should know, there are already two names on the waiting list! If I decide to sell, I'll set a price and contact number 1 first, then if it's too rich for his blood or he can't for some other reason, then number 2. But for the moment, I haven't decided to sell it. I mean, after all, I have two Flexi's here so I can have one with the band gear and one in my studio. That same flexibility could come to play with these two amps as well. On the other hand, I'm running out of room here!
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Post by zimmer on Feb 20, 2007 11:47:09 GMT -7
I've had several days to let the amp breathe a little, with the world of neighbors away at their day jobs. Sometimes I work nights, and one of the benefits is the chance to be loud during the day.
Up until now, I'd been very pleased with the detail and richness of the amp. But with the Master at 11:00 and the gain between 11 and 1:00, the amp opens up in a way that I lack the vocabulary to explain well. My current cabinet is a pine Trutone 24x18x11, open backed, with a Cannabis Rex.
The amp is very responsive, and matches my intentions without loss of detail, good or bad. There's so much going on that it changes again and again with small differences in playing. It's very rewarding to play at any volume, but it's more complex in a rich way when louder.
Around that point I think that maybe the neighbors ought to be home to hear this, and check it out for themselves.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 23, 2007 22:47:29 GMT -7
Congrats on the amp Steve! How does it initially compare to the Flexi-50? Well I went ahead and made a clip with both amps. See the sounds section. I think they are surprisingly similar.
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