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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 16, 2010 1:42:49 GMT -7
OK... Monza at a gig. Good sized room. I had the Monza and the other player used a Ghia in a 1x10. Both performed great. We do Classic Rock, Jammy, Funk to Country. The Monza did fine but I found I needed to bypass the BrakeLite when using a LP to get the cleans I needed. With a Tele I could use the BrakeLite and still get some cleans. But the solos were sweet, thick and creamy. I'm not used to riding the guitar volume, but it gets easier each time. While the Monza is pedal friendly, I prefer to get the drive from using the guitar volume and the amp. Great report Paul! I have become a total guitar volume user since getting the Maz and it sounds like the Monza responds even better to guitar input, which is great! I guess the balance is between getting that gorgeous Monza OD without pedals, and yet backing off to get sufficient cleans to be useful. Eureka! The Doc needs to put a Brake Lite in a stomp box ;D ;D ;D Pete
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Post by doctorice on Feb 17, 2010 11:45:36 GMT -7
[quote author=shouldb board=monza thread=29031 post=341113 time=1266309769 Eureka! The Doc needs to put a Brake Lite in a stomp box ;D ;D ;D
Pete[/quote]
I would buy it ;D
Truth be told, I think my ideal would be to run the Monza and MAZ Jr in an a/b setup. I will try it at home one of these days.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 18, 2010 5:56:49 GMT -7
[quote author=shouldb board=monza thread=29031 post=341113 time=1266309769 Eureka! The Doc needs to put a Brake Lite in a stomp box ;D ;D ;D Pete I would buy it ;D Truth be told, I think my ideal would be to run the Monza and MAZ Jr in an a/b setup. I will try it at home one of these days. [/quote] Now THAT'S an experiment I want to hear all about Mike!! ;D ;D ;D Pete
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Post by hairboy on Feb 18, 2010 10:07:39 GMT -7
Could you explain what you need to do that?Thanks,Dave
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Post by doctorice on Feb 19, 2010 6:24:07 GMT -7
Truth be told, I think my ideal would be to run the Monza and MAZ Jr in an a/b setup. I will try it at home one of these days. Now THAT'S an experiment I want to hear all about Mike!! ;D ;D ;D Pete I promise to get to it one of these days. I have 11 hours to decide if the Monza is going to the gig tonight or whether the MAZ goes. I keep going back and forth. However, this is not a gig where I can experiment with a dual setup. If I do go with the Monza, I'll post a report.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 19, 2010 6:28:53 GMT -7
Could you explain what you need to do that?Thanks,Dave Dave, are you referring to my mention of an a/b setup? I have an amp switching pedal that allows me to connect my guitar (or pedalboard output) to two amps and select either amp or both. (I've seen these referenced as a/b/y switches.) A lot of companies make them. I use one from www.startouchpedals.com/home.html
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Post by hairboy on Feb 19, 2010 19:08:08 GMT -7
Thanks,that's what I was looking for.I've got the Maz JR with reverb and the Monza it will be a toneful experiment for sure!
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Post by mtlrecords on Feb 19, 2010 19:19:38 GMT -7
Eventually I will be using a Monza and an EZG-50 in an A/B/Y setup...sounds like you guys are having great luck live, even with just the Monza! I can't wait...
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Post by hairboy on Feb 19, 2010 19:28:35 GMT -7
Doctorice,I just ordered the Startouch A/B/Y pedal.Thanks for the tip....Dave
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Post by doctorice on Feb 20, 2010 11:53:07 GMT -7
Eventually I will be using a Monza and an EZG-50 in an A/B/Y setup...sounds like you guys are having great luck live, even with just the Monza! I can't wait... That will be awesome. I've been interested in an EZG-50 for that ultimate BF tone. The Monza will be a superb complement. I just hope you've got Airbrakes!
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Post by doctorice on Feb 20, 2010 11:54:01 GMT -7
Doctorice,I just ordered the Startouch A/B/Y pedal.Thanks for the tip....Dave You're welcome. Enjoy!
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Post by bluzman on Feb 20, 2010 12:16:51 GMT -7
I promise to get to it one of these days. I have 11 hours to decide if the Monza is going to the gig tonight or whether the MAZ goes. I keep going back and forth. However, this is not a gig where I can experiment with a dual setup. If I do go with the Monza, I'll post a report. Well?
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Post by doctorice on Feb 20, 2010 18:47:31 GMT -7
promise to get to it one of these days. I have 11 hours to decide if the Monza is going to the gig tonight or whether the MAZ goes. I keep going back and forth. However, this is not a gig where I can experiment with a dual setup. If I do go with the Monza, I'll post a report. Well? Ended up with the MAZ for last night's gig. On balance, the set list required more clean than I could muster with the Monza. Did not even use the tone stack mod on the MAZ. No a/b work yet. Maybe tomorrow. Also will see if a guitar with less output than the EC Strat will stay cleaner longer. Monza will go to a gig in the next few weeks. Promise.
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Post by mtlrecords on Feb 21, 2010 7:14:43 GMT -7
Brake Lite with the Monza, no question. But I will be running the EZG clean in this setup, so I think I will be able to keep the volume quite low- for live standards- and I shouldn't need an attenuator. The EZG sounds good throughout its entire range...it is more versatile than people realize. Anyway, still excited for the Monza, should be April (after tax return).
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 22, 2010 6:23:58 GMT -7
Ended up with the MAZ for last night's gig. On balance, the set list required more clean than I could muster with the Monza. Did not even use the tone stack mod on the MAZ. No a/b work yet. Maybe tomorrow. Also will see if a guitar with less output than the EC Strat will stay cleaner longer. Monza will go to a gig in the next few weeks. Promise. It's hard to walk away from the Maz!!! Interested in your findings on the EC Strat - that baby will OD anything, so I have no doubt you will get better cleans from anything else, certainly an standard Strat. I think I'm heading towards the A/B setting with a Monza 1x10 for the solo stuff, and then get the Maz re-configured for much more clean headroom. Yep, that sounds about right. Oh yeah, I almost forgot - I have to find the funds to BUY a Monza in the first place. Gulp! Pete ;D
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Post by kjv02 on Feb 22, 2010 20:51:23 GMT -7
just got thru with band practice with the monza. as our bass player put it 'damn that little f***er is loud!'
it fact a bit too loud with the barn doors closed (its cold so we had to keep'em closed). i need to get a brake lite. it sounded great though. i just had a tuner and my flying dragon
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Post by hitoverdrive on Feb 22, 2010 22:31:58 GMT -7
just got thru with band practice with the monza. as our bass player put it 'damn that little f***er is loud!' it fact a bit too loud with the barn doors closed (its cold so we had to keep'em closed). i need to get a brake lite. it sounded great though. i just had a tuner and my flying dragon One of the reasons its so loud is the Red Fang speaker has a sensitivity rating of 102db. High sensitivity and very efficient driver. Its taking all that lovely Z tone and throwing it out there like nobodies business. I have my head going into a Veteran 30 OS/OB 112 and it has a sensitivity rating of 100db's. Its louder than my 412 of GB's due the low sensitivity of the speakers.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 23, 2010 15:04:51 GMT -7
just got thru with band practice with the monza. as our bass player put it 'damn that little f***er is loud!' it fact a bit too loud with the barn doors closed (its cold so we had to keep'em closed). i need to get a brake lite. it sounded great though. i just had a tuner and my flying dragon Bass players have such a way with words!! I love it!! Like every Z amp I've read about, some a Brake Lite, or Air Brake, is absolutely needed. I have one ready and waiting for my Monza ;D Thanks for the feedback!
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Post by doctorice on Feb 28, 2010 19:35:52 GMT -7
I'm getting more comfortable with the Monza's ability to render a cleanish tone. It's easier with the drive all the way down, but it can still be done with the drive up. One factor seems to be the amp's stong sensitivity to pick attack. Gentle picking or fingers seems to keep the pushed drive sound at bay. It's not MAZ (or Fender) clean, and I would probably use another amp for gigs that involve a preponderance of tunes that need clean tones. But the amp does seem able to do a good job even when not in its sweet spot.
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Post by bluzman on Feb 28, 2010 20:13:35 GMT -7
I'm getting more comfortable with the Monza's ability to render a cleanish tone. It's easier with the drive all the way down, but it can still be done with the drive up. One factor seems to be the amp's stong sensitivity to pick attack. Gentle picking or fingers seems to keep the pushed drive sound at bay. It's not MAZ (or Fender) clean, and I would probably use another amp for gigs that involve a preponderance of tunes that need clean tones. But the amp does seem able to do a good job even when not in its sweet spot. Especially with single coils.
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Post by hitoverdrive on Mar 1, 2010 12:40:42 GMT -7
I'm getting really nice clean tones using my strat. I have the volume around 9am and the drive at 10am. Using volume control on the guitar and pick attack makes it pretty sweet sounding. The wife even commented how good it sounded. She likes when I play clean instead of getting my jollies on the drive side of things hehe. Right now I'm using a modest amount of delay with it and it pretties up the clean nicely. I'm using a Veteran 30 112. Only get better with a speaker that compliments the amp better. Anybody using a Gold in a 112 cab with this amp?
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Post by doctorice on Mar 1, 2010 13:46:29 GMT -7
I'm getting more comfortable with the Monza's ability to render a cleanish tone. It's easier with the drive all the way down, but it can still be done with the drive up. One factor seems to be the amp's stong sensitivity to pick attack. Gentle picking or fingers seems to keep the pushed drive sound at bay. It's not MAZ (or Fender) clean, and I would probably use another amp for gigs that involve a preponderance of tunes that need clean tones. But the amp does seem able to do a good job even when not in its sweet spot. Especially with single coils. Yup. I was on a Strat. Similar setting to hitoverdrive. Haven't tried a delay yet, so thanks for suggesting.
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