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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2009 8:43:47 GMT -7
A friend gave me a heads up on a used RXES 2/12 combo sitting in a local music store for cheap! I'm gonna go look at it today
I haven't had time to research all the threads but I am a huge fan of the Mazerati and that's currently what I'm using. What can I expect out of the RX? Does it have more OD than the Mazerati? Louder?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 24, 2009 11:23:02 GMT -7
It is quite a bit louder, can sound pretty close to the Mazerati when set up clean (although it is its own thing), but with an Airbrake you can get a ton more saturation, especially with the boost on. RXES is a pretty cool amp. RXES Clips Here!
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2009 11:47:38 GMT -7
Well...its ugly as all get out but I bought it for a song. Looks like someone painted the grillcloth gold
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Post by ecsong187 (Edwin) on Aug 24, 2009 12:05:32 GMT -7
pics!? How much did you pay for it?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 24, 2009 12:16:45 GMT -7
Painted grill cloth - doesn't that let the notes out more better?
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2009 14:04:51 GMT -7
Painted grill cloth - doesn't that let the notes out more better? Maybe so Heres the ulgy ducking...poor thing didnt make it home that I had to replace an EL84 that was about to blow...but ya gotta figure any used amp needs tubes anyway right? It has Hellatone 30/60 speakers What'd it cost me? $923 OTD.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 24, 2009 15:41:39 GMT -7
Can't really tell from the pic - is that a toggle switch there on the front, or a light (with corresponding footswitch in on the back)? I have the one with the toggle switch on the front, and I like it that way.
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2009 15:43:00 GMT -7
Toggle
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 24, 2009 16:05:55 GMT -7
Ah, must be from the same timeframe as mine then. Not sure how many were made that way, but it was a few, and then it got the footswitch change. Have you played it yet? What speakers? V30/G12H? Sounds good, donit?
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2009 17:05:38 GMT -7
Ah, must be from the same timeframe as mine then. Not sure how many were made that way, but it was a few, and then it got the footswitch change. Have you played it yet? What speakers? V30/G12H? Sounds good, donit? Yes I played it for a bit and it has the hellatone version V30/G12H...it sure is bright but then again, everything sounds bright in my living room...if I can get some new power tubes in this week I'll try it out at Sat nights gig.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 24, 2009 18:56:27 GMT -7
Ah, must be from the same timeframe as mine then. Not sure how many were made that way, but it was a few, and then it got the footswitch change. Have you played it yet? What speakers? V30/G12H? Sounds good, donit? Yes I played it for a bit and it has the hellatone version V30/G12H...it sure is bright but then again, everything sounds bright in my living room...if I can get some new power tubes in this week I'll try it out at Sat nights gig. That brightness perception is variable depending on how much gain you dial in - more gain seems to feel less bright. Clean seems to feel more bright. And don't be afraid to twist that treble knob to the left - it goes all the way to zero you know.
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2009 20:45:26 GMT -7
Yes I played it for a bit and it has the hellatone version V30/G12H...it sure is bright but then again, everything sounds bright in my living room...if I can get some new power tubes in this week I'll try it out at Sat nights gig. That brightness perception is variable depending on how much gain you dial in - more gain seems to feel less bright. Clean seems to feel more bright. And don't be afraid to twist that treble knob to the left - it goes all the way to zero you know. Oh believe me, I tried zero too but lose some low string clarity when I do that...I'm not passing judgement till I get some new tubes in it...remember too I'm using your old tele with the very bright old bridge pup...my other guitars sounded much warmer.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 24, 2009 21:57:52 GMT -7
That brightness perception is variable depending on how much gain you dial in - more gain seems to feel less bright. Clean seems to feel more bright. And don't be afraid to twist that treble knob to the left - it goes all the way to zero you know. Oh believe me, I tried zero too but lose some low string clarity when I do that...I'm not passing judgement till I get some new tubes in it...remember too I'm using your old tele with the very bright old bridge pup...my other guitars sounded much warmer. yep. New tubes might do the trick, but you won't know till you play it out. It's always different on the gig. and yeah, I know what you mean about that Tele.
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 25, 2009 15:12:56 GMT -7
I spent a little more time with the amp this afternoon...after digging around in all my stuff, I found a used quad of EL84's and stuck em in...that made a considerable difference...its still bright but I think I found some settings that I can use. Treble - barely cracked open Mid - dimed Bass - about halfway This sounded good with one of my parst teles and very similar to my mazerati I believe(didnt have it there for a side by side comparison) Then I grabbed my old tele again...with it I had to turn the treble down to zero and bring the mids down a couple clicks as well. Oh...all this with the OD off, vol up loud, High Input, and I never dimed the guitar...it was plenty loud. Our lead singer has a bad habit of running his twin on 10...usually doesnt dime the guitar but occassionally he feels the need to do so and drowns out everybody else...he's gonna get a BIG surprise next time he does that
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 25, 2009 15:56:04 GMT -7
One thing I've noticed about EF-86 based amps - you can get wild variations in tone with different EF-86's. Some are real warm, others are real bright - you might want to call KCANOS and have a chat about that - I bet he's got one there that is just what the doctor ordered...
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Post by ormond on Aug 25, 2009 16:54:24 GMT -7
Who is KCANOS?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 25, 2009 17:19:02 GMT -7
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Aug 26, 2009 5:17:27 GMT -7
Mullard EF86's are darker (or "warmer") than Dario's
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 26, 2009 8:07:25 GMT -7
Mullard EF86's are darker (or "warmer") than Dario's Hmmm...time to dig through the tube bin again...I used to have a Mullard EF86...
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 29, 2009 19:13:07 GMT -7
Update...its about 15 min before start time and the rx is dialed in and cranked up(about 1 o clock vol high input od off. I think this amp is going to serve me well...once I compared it side by side with the rati I realized the rati is very bright as well. I did find my mullard ef86 so I have it in the amp which did seem to sweetn it up a bit. This amp does something I really like in an amp..hit that low e hard and it sounds like srv...- like that a lot More to come about 2am
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 29, 2009 19:33:06 GMT -7
Cool, fill us in once you've done the deal.
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 30, 2009 0:43:48 GMT -7
Well, Im too tired to say much now but I will say this...I didnt get drowned out by the other guys twin tonight
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Post by groovergeorge on Aug 30, 2009 2:06:48 GMT -7
I've got one Ronnie and love it.
I'm still trying to justify getting an older Rati since I also have a Maz Sr as well. I'd love for you to let me know more about the tonal differences when you get a chance.
If it's a little too loud at times just swap those speakers out for a weber ceramic blue, alnico silver combination. But I guess you already knew that.
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 30, 2009 16:39:53 GMT -7
I've got one Ronnie and love it. I'm still trying to justify getting an older Rati since I also have a Maz Sr as well. I'd love for you to let me know more about the tonal differences when you get a chance. If it's a little too loud at times just swap those speakers out for a weber ceramic blue, alnico silver combination. But I guess you already knew that. George, There are differences in the 2 amps but I'm not quite sure how to put them into words. The RX is louder and punchier but thats about all I can say...I wish I had a way to record some clips for you to hear the differences.
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Post by groovergeorge on Aug 30, 2009 18:43:27 GMT -7
Thats ok Ronnie.
Do you think it's worth it having the Maz, RXES and an older Mazerati?
I just noticed you haven't got the Ghia anymore, why is that?
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 30, 2009 19:34:08 GMT -7
Thats ok Ronnie. Do you think it's worth it having the Maz, RXES and an older Mazerati? Hard to say as folks hear things differently...to me the tone diff between to Rati and RX are fairly subtle with the exception of volume but I'd say the RX will do things the Rati wont and vice versa. Of course I'm going into this trying to make the RXES sound like my Rati if that makes sense. I just noticed you haven't got the Ghia anymore, why is that? Call it a moment of foolishness There was a time when we were just playing small local gigs that our singer would leave his elec rig at home so the GHia was fine when I didnt have any volume competition on stage...nowadays we have a lot of twin guitar stuff we do and he has a twin reverb cranked up loud so I started playing the Rati full time and ultimately got rid of the Ghia...I feel good about it now that I have 2 bigger amps that I'm happy with...and its is likely the Rati will become the "backup" amp.
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