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Post by daynwarren on Feb 27, 2009 13:13:03 GMT -7
I just installed it in my JDesign 1x12 loaded with an 8 ohm 30 watt Scumnico speaker. It works well with my Komet 19!
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Post by Maddog on Feb 27, 2009 14:30:47 GMT -7
Nice clean install! Looks great. Are the leads long enough to make the trip to the Head?
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Post by daynwarren on Feb 27, 2009 16:42:45 GMT -7
Are the leads long enough to make the trip to the Head?
Yes, Easily.
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Post by John on Mar 1, 2009 8:01:21 GMT -7
Interesting, you've wired things so the output of the brakelite goes to the cabinet jack. You have a total of three wires in there.
1. From amp output to BL input. 2. From BL output to cabinet jack input. 3. From jack to speaker
Are other using this wiring scheme?
I would have wired it differently using only two cables:
1. Jack of cabinet to BL input. 2. BL output to speaker
That way, you just plug your amp into your cabinet like normal. (yes, I realize there will be a 'third' cable in the form of amp to cabinet.)
Edit....
I just noticed...the way I described is the same as the photo at the Z website. Yours will work fine, but it looks like an extra step.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 1, 2009 8:31:35 GMT -7
But in his installation, he can pull the Brake Lite out of there without having to re-solder anything. It's still "snatch and go" form factor.
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Post by daynwarren on Mar 2, 2009 9:37:07 GMT -7
"But in his installation, he can pull the Brake Lite out of there without having to re-solder anything. It's still "snatch and go" form factor."
EXACTLY!
I can also bypass it all together but leave it in the cabinet, and I can still use it as a parallel load if I want. Maybe someday I will hardwire it in, but for now this is versatile and I love it!
Even for taking a nice but loud clean sound down a notch or two it is perfect.
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Post by John on Mar 2, 2009 17:54:57 GMT -7
Isn't it held in with screws?
Granted you're not resoldering anything, but you have to unscrew the thing don't you?
4 screws? Or does it snap out? That would be cool!
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Post by daynwarren on Mar 3, 2009 10:14:39 GMT -7
It is held in with 2 screws. I don't plan on removing it so my install is not so much about putting it in another amp/cab. More about being able to truly bypass it or use as a parallel load.
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on Apr 11, 2009 14:35:30 GMT -7
I've just installed a Brake Lite in my Z 2 x 10 convertible cab. I've only tried it out at home, but it sounds really good. Can't wait for next Saturday's gig to get those tubes working . (PS. Thanks again to 'English John' at Peach).
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on Apr 19, 2009 4:42:20 GMT -7
I've just installed a Brake Lite in my Z 2 x 10 convertible cab. I've only tried it out at home, but it sounds really good. Can't wait for next Saturday's gig to get those tubes working . (PS. Thanks again to 'English John' at Peach).First gig using the 'Lite last night. Brilliant . Volume will never be an issue again . Maz Jnr NR: Master at 2.30; Volume at 2.00; two clicks on the 'Lite for the first set and backed off to one click for the second. No pedals, just used the guitar volume. With those power tubes cooking, sounded better than ever.....even the drummer commented ;D ;D
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Post by Darkside on May 5, 2009 14:00:50 GMT -7
I've just installed a Brake Lite in my Z 2 x 10 convertible cab. I've only tried it out at home, but it sounds really good. Can't wait for next Saturday's gig to get those tubes working . (PS. Thanks again to 'English John' at Peach).With those power tubes cooking, sounded better than ever.....even the drummer commented ;D ;D Now that MUST be something special if a non musician picks up on it! lol ;D
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on May 9, 2009 11:52:52 GMT -7
With those power tubes cooking, sounded better than ever.....even the drummer commented ;D ;D Now that MUST be something special if a non musician picks up on it! lol ;D Exactly..... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Darkside on May 11, 2009 14:08:00 GMT -7
There's no way I could run mine at your settings with my Brake Lite, it's still WAY too loud! Am I missing something or is there something wrong with my BL? Even on 4 I can't turn the Master Volume up past 10.00 before the whoe room is shaking!
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on May 12, 2009 6:09:14 GMT -7
There's no way I could run mine at your settings with my Brake Lite, it's still WAY too loud! Am I missing something or is there something wrong with my BL? Even on 4 I can't turn the Master Volume up past 10.00 before the whoe room is shaking! "Whole room shaking".....nothing wrong with that ;D ;D Seriously though, those settings were in a live music pub where volume isn't a problem.......normally the Master might be around 11 or 12 o'clock. I play in a 10 or 11 piece band with four or five horns in front of me and the backline isn't usually miked up. With two singers + keys all the horns out front, I only get a couple of decent opportunities to solo in our set. Most of the time I have my guitar volume backed off to about 6 with occasional increases for fills etc. When it's my turn to step forward (Walkin' the Dog & Mustang Sally) it's up to 10. I've never had any complaints about volume.....yet Mind you, I've only played 3 or 4 gigs with the BL so far, so I'm still experimenting. Used it at a band rehearsal on Sunday...an absolute godsend in a small room.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on May 12, 2009 7:35:50 GMT -7
Oooh... horns in band = turn up the guitar!
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on May 12, 2009 9:48:20 GMT -7
Oooh... horns in band = turn up the guitar! ;D ;D Oh yeah......! I love playing in a band with horns though . Since I was 17 back in the '60's, most of the bands I've played in had horns. Cuts down the opportunity for guitar solos..........but that's probably a good thing in my case
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Post by jeff25 on Jun 20, 2009 18:49:53 GMT -7
I have a question....On my BL,the input cable is pulled tight to reach the head. I was planning on soldering longer leads to it,but got to wondering,could I put a jack in the housing,in place of the leads? I realize that the good Dr. probably did it that way to make it idiot-proof,but the ins and outs are clearly marked. Can't I just put a jack in the input,just like the speaker side? Whatcha think?
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Jun 20, 2009 20:20:11 GMT -7
You could put a jack in it, but.........
Why not just go to Radio Shack and spend 4 bucks on a female/female 1/4" connector? You could use as long/short a cable as you need w/no mods to your gear.
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Post by jeff25 on Jun 21, 2009 9:33:15 GMT -7
Sounds good T-Rock.....I do love a simple solution! Thanks!
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Post by iluvpunz on Jun 25, 2009 7:41:42 GMT -7
Be carefull with the Radio Shack connectors. They are made for signal applications, not speaker wattages. I took one apart and the conductor was very small, looked like less than 20 gauge. If you are cranking the amp up that little conductor may overheat and fail.
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Post by ringmod on Sept 18, 2009 12:05:23 GMT -7
Ah, great idea. I have two 2x12 cabs and one 1x12 cab. I can pilot the screw holes into all three cabs and move the brake lite from cab to cab depending on what cab I wanna use for each gig!
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Post by uncleebeneezer on Nov 23, 2009 19:36:47 GMT -7
I've just installed a Brake Lite in my Z 2 x 10 convertible cab. I've only tried it out at home, but it sounds really good. Can't wait for next Saturday's gig to get those tubes working . (PS. Thanks again to 'English John' at Peach).Hey Milky, how did you mount it in a 21 cab? I'm trying to figure it our right now and am having trouble getting it in there and not too close to the speakers?
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on Nov 25, 2009 1:05:07 GMT -7
I've just installed a Brake Lite in my Z 2 x 10 convertible cab. I've only tried it out at home, but it sounds really good. Can't wait for next Saturday's gig to get those tubes working . (PS. Thanks again to 'English John' at Peach).Hey Milky, how did you mount it in a 21 cab? I'm trying to figure it our right now and am having trouble getting it in there and not too close to the speakers? My Brake Lite is installed in the same position as the 1 x 12 in the original post, only mine's a Z 2 x10 convertible. It fits OK and I don't believe that the proximity to the speakers is as issue. As I understand it, the BL was originally designed to fit into a combo where there would be even less space. Milky
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Post by uncleebeneezer on Nov 25, 2009 10:20:19 GMT -7
Thanks Milky. the only way I could get mine in the 210 was to have it really close to the speakers or on the bottom where it wouldn't be able to reach the head. So I just ended up mounting it externally on the back panel.
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Post by bikedude on Jan 30, 2010 18:36:24 GMT -7
Maybe the Dr. will read some of these posts, and make a brakelite especially for mounting in ext. cabs. Now wouldn't that be a nice marketing tool!!
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Post by mtlrecords on Jan 31, 2010 22:19:37 GMT -7
Darksides' comment about the Brake Lite being on 4 and his amp still being too loud sounds familiar to me. I think the capacity of the Brake Lite is 45 watts (which is the output of the KT-45- but maybe you are using the MAZ Jr.- NOT Sure) and I don't think the BL, or most attenuators, do as well handling the maximum power they are capable of.
If you used an Airbrake (or Bad Cat Leash) you would probably be able to dampen the output of a MAZ Jr or KT-45, preserving tone at even lower volumes.
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Post by Jan on Feb 11, 2010 0:20:06 GMT -7
I was in a hurry for some jacks recently, in a hurry enough to buy them from Radio Shack. The whole time I was driving there I was telling myself that I was making a mistake. Well, to call them junk would be a kindness. I think Switchcraft quality or better is essential. If your local mom and pop music store does not stock some Switchcraft or Neutrik, I suggest ordering some. And extras too - spares are a good thing and may prevent mistakes made in haste. I do not mind paying a little extra to keep the local stores around longer. But I do mind paying for junk.
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