|
Post by brad737 on Dec 21, 2008 11:56:05 GMT -7
Hello gents,
I JUST bought a Mazerati GT (like 3 minutes ago). I was hoping I could get a speaker/ cabinet recommendation for it? I looked through the forum, and the last input was over a year ago. The only time I played a GT was through a Z-Best, and it was awesome. But I'm thinking about setting this up with a Stingray head through a switcher, if that matters. I know my Ray likes Celestion Blues, but I think the GT would kill those. I'm thinking 2 Greenbacks or a Z210? What do you think?
Thanks, Brad
|
|
|
Post by zdogma on Dec 21, 2008 12:57:50 GMT -7
Hello gents, I JUST bought a Mazerati GT (like 3 minutes ago). I was hoping I could get a speaker/ cabinet recommendation for it? I looked through the forum, and the last input was over a year ago. The only time I played a GT was through a Z-Best, and it was awesome. But I'm thinking about setting this up with a Stingray head through a switcher, if that matters. I know my Ray likes Celestion Blues, but I think the GT would kill those. I'm thinking 2 Greenbacks or a Z210? What do you think? Thanks, Brad Z best is cool. For 112 cabs I like the TT ceramic and Celestion G1265. Never tried two greenbacks, seems like it would be a pretty good match.
|
|
|
Post by taswegian on Dec 21, 2008 20:45:37 GMT -7
So I guess you bought Brandon's GT huh? I'm jealous. I wanted to run that thru my 35 watt custom celestian speaker or the Z best. I kinda think two of the Heritage greenbacks would be cool. They are a little darker, very inefficient at 96db to help tame her a little, and give that great greenback sound. Rock and Roll.
|
|
|
Post by benttop (Steve) on Dec 21, 2008 22:25:15 GMT -7
I never got to play mine through a set of greenbacks, but I think it would be great. I did not care for the Alnico Golds with this amp, not sure why. But the V30/G12H combination sounded really good, both in the Z-Best and in my Z 2x12 open back.
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Dec 21, 2008 23:06:07 GMT -7
Yeah, I did. I've actually been trying to sell some stuff and streamline my collection. At least until I build my chops up and can do my gear justice. But something about that flamed maple valance and black cab just called my name. Like I always say, I can resist anything but temptation! The only time I've played a GT was through a Z-Best. But that's a pretty big speaker cabinet. I really don't have tons of room, and I have three 412 half stacks (one is in storage), a 212 combo, a 212 cab, and two 112 combos. I'm running out of space! So I guess you bought Brandon's GT huh? I'm jealous. I wanted to run that thru my 35 watt custom celestian speaker or the Z best. I kinda think two of the Heritage greenbacks would be cool. They are a little darker, very inefficient at 96db to help tame her a little, and give that great greenback sound. Rock and Roll.
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Dec 21, 2008 23:22:45 GMT -7
Hey guys,
Here's a thought. What would you think about a Maz GT through a single G12H30? The reason I ask is because right before I bought my Stingray head, a friend and I tried a lot of different speaker and cab combinations with his Ray. I REALLY loved the sound of his Ray through a single G12H30 in his Z closed-back cabinet. So when I found my Stingray, I bought the vintage-styled Avatar 112 cabinet with a closed back, and their broken-in Hellatone treatment of the G12H30. It's a really nice cabinet.
Anyway, I was thinking it would be cool to sit the GT right on top of the Stingray, and plug both amps into my Radial Headbone switcher, and into that G12H30. My cause of concern is that the Celestion G12H30 is rated at 30 watts. That's no problem because the Stingray is rated at 30 watts as well. So unless I'm totally cranking the Stingray, I should be safe with that speaker. The problem is that the Maz GT is rated for 38 watts. I'm probably answering my own question. But running a 38 watt amp into a 30 watt speaker sounds like a dumb idea to me. What do you all think?
Thanks, Brad
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Dec 21, 2008 23:23:44 GMT -7
I find that kind of surprising. I've loved Golds with everything I've heard through them. I never got to play mine through a set of greenbacks, but I think it would be great. I did not care for the Alnico Golds with this amp, not sure why. But the V30/G12H combination sounded really good, both in the Z-Best and in my Z 2x12 open back.
|
|
|
Post by zdogma on Dec 22, 2008 6:15:31 GMT -7
The GT is a really loud 38 watts, I wouldn't try it thru a G12H.
I agree about the golds, they werent my fave either. They were good with the volume way down, but when you turned it up the gold got a little too compressed.
|
|
|
Post by mmillernc on Dec 22, 2008 9:18:48 GMT -7
hey everyone,
i'm back in the GT crowd. i originally had #10 but sold it for a Jr which i thought would work better for my current gig. not so...
so when Scott posted his GT, i traded back my Jr. the kicker = i now have #11!!
anyhoo, i'm wondering the same thing about speakers but in a 1-12 config. i tried a Gold and i agree it wasn't impressive - at least thru an open back. i haven't tried a H30, but i do have a 1265 clone sittin around that i will try.
i appreciate all the info.
mike
|
|
|
Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Dec 22, 2008 15:44:40 GMT -7
The GT is a really loud 38 watts, I wouldn't try it thru a G12H. I agree about the golds, they werent my fave either. They were good with the volume way down, but when you turned it up the gold got a little too compressed. The GT is more like 45 watts.
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Dec 22, 2008 17:02:29 GMT -7
What do you play your GT through, Phil? A Z-Best?
|
|
|
Post by zdogma on Dec 22, 2008 21:18:11 GMT -7
The GT is a really loud 38 watts, I wouldn't try it thru a G12H. I agree about the golds, they werent my fave either. They were good with the volume way down, but when you turned it up the gold got a little too compressed. The GT is more like 45 watts. I believe that.
|
|
|
Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Dec 23, 2008 9:05:19 GMT -7
The GT is more like 45 watts. I believe that. Under the right conditions, you can get 12, 12 1/2 watts out of each EL84 in the quad for a total output approaching 50W in some amps... it just depends on what percentage distortion you want to rate/measure it at. I haven't bench-tested the GT... too busy playing it!!!! The RxES has been clocked at close to 50 watts though... I use the GT exclusively with the Z-Best, BTW.
|
|
|
Post by jackshite on Dec 24, 2008 9:59:52 GMT -7
i'd try a scumback 65-watt H55 variant. i have one, and it's easily one of the best sounding speakers i've heard with the gt.
|
|
|
Post by zdogma on Dec 24, 2008 11:45:09 GMT -7
i'd try a scumback 65-watt H55 variant. i have one, and it's easily one of the best sounding speakers i've heard with the gt. Is there a Celestion or Weber that's similar? Its hard to get scumbacks up here. Is it like the G12-65?
|
|
|
Post by jackshite on Dec 24, 2008 13:31:59 GMT -7
i'd try a scumback 65-watt H55 variant. i have one, and it's easily one of the best sounding speakers i've heard with the gt. Is there a Celestion or Weber that's similar? Its hard to get scumbacks up here. Is it like the G12-65? it's a 65-watt version of the 55 hz 'bass' cone 30-watt greenback. i'm sure weber makes a variant, as he makes the scumbacks for jim seavall, but i couldn't tell you the exact model. www.scumbackspeakers.com/h_series.html#h55i'd look for a used one. my pal just picked up a 100-watt version for a 1-12, his text to me this morning was 'UNREAL!'.
|
|
|
Post by jackshite on Dec 24, 2008 13:35:53 GMT -7
also, if you're looking for a more midrange-forward, 25-watt greenback type voicing, i'd try a www.scumbackspeakers.com/m_series.html#m75LHDCthat's the other speaker i paired with the H55 in a 2-12, and it's the best speaker combo i've EVER heard. works incredibly well with clean or dirty tones, and differing amps.
|
|
|
Post by zdogma on Dec 24, 2008 14:45:20 GMT -7
also, if you're looking for a more midrange-forward, 25-watt greenback type voicing, i'd try a www.scumbackspeakers.com/m_series.html#m75LHDCthat's the other speaker i paired with the H55 in a 2-12, and it's the best speaker combo i've EVER heard. works incredibly well with clean or dirty tones, and differing amps. Cool, thanks for the info.
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Dec 25, 2008 10:46:50 GMT -7
Anyone tried the GT with the Z 210?
|
|
|
Post by jcv on Dec 26, 2008 8:48:25 GMT -7
Anyone tried the GT with the Z 210? Yes! I run mine through my Z 2x10 convertible cab with the back closed. It sounds unreal - VERY punchy.
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Dec 26, 2008 9:31:44 GMT -7
That's what I wanted to hear! ;D I was thinking of getting a Z-Best for the GT. But my idea is to run my Stingray head and my GT into the same cabinet, and switch between them with my Radial Headbone. It appears that most guys prefer use a Z-Best, so I was considering that. But I'm bonding with my 210s so much, I was hoping the GT would work with that. I've been playing my Stingray through a 210 with the back removed, and that sounds fantastic. I can't wait till my GT gets here.
|
|
|
Post by jcv on Dec 26, 2008 11:22:35 GMT -7
I admit I haven't tried a Z-Best but I like my Z 2x10 WAY better than my Avatar 2x12 with my GT, Galaxie and Maz Jr.
I really think you'll like the 2x10 with the GT
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Jan 23, 2009 22:57:21 GMT -7
Well guys, I bit the bullet and got a Z-Best for the GT/ Stingray. The problem is that I had two Z 210s...but they were both red. I went ahead and sold one of the 210s.
As for the Z-Best, it really is an awesome sounding cabinet. Mine is stock at the moment with the G12H30/ Vintage 30 setup. However, I've been playing swap-a-speaker a lot lately with my Avatar 212. One of the hot combinations I've come up with is a G12H30 and a Greenback. I think that might be a killer setup with the GT. I'm also running a Stingray head into this cab, so hopefully those speakers will work with the Ray as well.
|
|
|
Post by brad737 on Jan 28, 2009 13:21:40 GMT -7
Okay guys, just a quick update. I just got the Ted Weber version of the Celestion G12-65. I put this speaker into an Avatar closed-back 112. I got that speaker for my Trainwreck clones. But I wanted to try the GT with it as well. I don't know how close Weber's version is to the Celestion, but that really is an AWESOME speaker. I'll stick with the GT into the Z-Best. But that really is an awesome combination as well. So far my preferences are:
1.) Z-Best loaded with a G12H30 and a G12M Greenback 2.) Z-Best loaded with a G12H30 and a Vintage 30 3.) Z Convertible 210 with the middle panel off 4.) Closed-back Avatar 112 (Vintage-Style) loaded with a G12-65 clone from Ted Weber.
This amp likes everything I play it through.
|
|
|
Post by mmillernc on Feb 5, 2009 6:53:44 GMT -7
does anyone have any thoughts on 10 inch speakers? i have a Freda 2-10 cab with G10s, but i know it could be better.
apparently the Z10s are not available; neither are the new cele greenbacks. thinking about the weber Blue Pup or Silver Ten.....
any experience other than the Z 210?
mike
|
|
|
Post by zdogma on Feb 5, 2009 10:13:44 GMT -7
I have a 210 with a silver and blue alnico weber 10 and they aren't great with this amp. The cab works very well with the Route 66 and Maz 18, but its gets totally fizzy and compressed with the GT, too much midrange, too.
I love the TT ceramic 12 inch with this, I think a ceramic 10 like the TT would be great or a pair of the Weber high power ceramic 10's, or the Z 10's
|
|
|
Post by mmillernc on Feb 5, 2009 18:00:31 GMT -7
I have a 210 with a silver and blue alnico weber 10 and they aren't great with this amp. The cab works very well with the Route 66 and Maz 18, but its gets totally fizzy and compressed with the GT, too much midrange, too. I love the TT ceramic 12 inch with this, I think a ceramic 10 like the TT would be great or a pair of the Weber high power ceramic 10's, or the Z 10's thanks for the advice! i was wondering whether the GT might be a bit for the little alnicos. mike
|
|