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Post by rpavich on Nov 28, 2005 5:48:15 GMT -7
Hi, As you know i"m coming back into the Ghia fold very soon...
I have a "no name" birch ply 1x12 cab loaded with a Greenback as my cab.
Is there a speaker recommendation that you have that really compliments the ghia with 'buckers?
I like a lot of bite and not a lot of mud...
Preferably a speaker that MF sells as I have their credit card...
bob
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Post by martyncrew on Nov 28, 2005 6:18:39 GMT -7
The Greenback should sound fine. I really liked the 75w Eminence Wizard/Ghia combination - worked well with all pups IMO inc 'buckers. However, my 'bucker guitar (Ibanez LP Goldtop) has early Dimarzio PAF type pups, so low output by today's standards.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 28, 2005 8:41:29 GMT -7
I like a lot of bite and not a lot of mud... bob Hi Bob - WELCOME BACK! I'd try that Greenback first since you already have it, and see if that works for you... BUT - I think for a single speaker with the Ghia, it's REALLY hard to top a Vintage 30. Just like you said, a lot of bite and not a lot of mud... Sounds great clean/edge of breakup, and very greasy yet with good cut and articulation on the overdriven tones. The voicing is perfectly matched to the Ghia IMO, and the speaker is very dynamic and efficient with also mates well with the Ghia's personality. Just my $.02
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Post by Curt on Nov 28, 2005 9:03:06 GMT -7
I'm with Peach, A V'30 works great with a Ghia.
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Post by rpavich on Nov 28, 2005 9:08:46 GMT -7
OK, (Spoken to self) "Let me get this straight....didn't listen to 'Peach once already...missed out on a Ghia for 2 months and had to buy another one...I know there's a lesson here somewhere!"
Oh yeah, that's it....GO BUY A V30 NOW!
BOB
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Post by Bill on Nov 28, 2005 10:00:46 GMT -7
I like a lot of bite and not a lot of mud... Preferably a speaker that MF sells as I have their credit card... bob Personally I'd stick an Emi Tonker in it. A bit overkill for a Ghia, but no trace of mud with plenty of bite, and less reputation for cone cry which a V30 can exhibit sometimes. But you said MF, so V30 would be it. ;D
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Post by rpavich on Nov 28, 2005 11:02:31 GMT -7
OK, Maybe I'll get the tonker also...MF has them and they are only 90.00. I can try it and resell if it sucks...
I noticed the Tonker is 150W...is that a problem? Will that hinder break up? Right now my Greenback is a 25W and the V30 is a 60W bob
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Post by kruzty on Nov 28, 2005 11:12:38 GMT -7
The wattage rating on the Eminence doesn't seem to matter as far as breakup goes. I have a Texas Heat (150W) that is very touch sensative and sounds great with my THD BiValve (30 W). On their website somewhere they have a blurb about how their new technology speakers working with lower watt tube amps. Just go to the page about the speaker and it should be on there at the bottom. This is the quote:
"Eminence voice coil technology often results in guitar speakers that dramatically exceed the power rating of other manufacturer's products. Such ratings are not meant to imply the Eminence woofers are not equally suitable for lower-power "Class A" valve amplifiers as they are for high gain valve and transistor amplification."
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Post by Bill on Nov 28, 2005 11:17:03 GMT -7
Bob, the Tonker like I said above would be overkill, but in a good way IMO . Your only breakup will be from tubes and not the speaker, so no mud and plenty of bite. Otherwise if you want less of everything the Greenback is a good choice...and a nice sounding, reedy speaker, not much bottom.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 28, 2005 12:01:10 GMT -7
Whoa Bob!!! That's too much pressure man! I just know what I like, so take my words with a grain of salt... However, Curt (tele62) recommends the V30 and he definitely knows tone. Perry Roper has said many times that his favorite speaker with the Ghia is a V30 as well because of the way the Ghia's tone control just seems to wrap perfectly around the V30's voicing. And if none of that grabs you, Dr. Z himself has said that he likes the V30 when chosing a single speaker for the Ghia. After owning my Ghia for quite a few years now, I finally took the good Dr.'s (and Perry's) advice on the V30 about 3 years ago, and have never looked back. Certainly nobody knows the Ghia better than the Doc, but speakers are just as subject to personal taste as amps are... SO, I say do some experiementing and find the one that works best for you! IMO, changing speakers is THE single most impactful way to alter the Ghia's voice and personality. One other tip... If you're gonna get a V30, I'd DEFINITELY try to find a well broken in used one rather than a new one as that way you'll get to hear how it's supposed to sound right away. V30's take a while to reach their prime... Once they're broken in, I find that they when used with an overdriven amp they just sing and sustain and a gloriously creamy way (though always articulate and never muddy) unlike any other speaker I've tried... and when clean they have a great chime and sparkle with the Ghia that's as good or better than any other speaker I've tried. It's really the best of both worlds (clean and dirty) which is why it's such a great match for a Ghia, which I also feel provides the best of both of those worlds. As a final annecdote, the first time I put a V30 in my Z 1x12 cab and ran my Ghia through it, I knew it was there to stay... It put a huge smile on my face, and I couldn't stop playing. It's voicing, feel, and dynamic response proved to be exactly what I was looking for. Only thing I like to run my Ghia through better than the 1x12 rear ported V30 Z-cab (that I traded to Curt) is my 2x12 Z-Best loaded with a V30/H30 combo (that I got from Curt in trade)... So, THANKS CURT! Sometimes though, I do miss my old 1x12 Z cab with a single V30... 'elegant simplicity' is the catch phrase I'd use there.
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Post by rpavich on Nov 28, 2005 13:15:34 GMT -7
Too late peach...it's a done deal.... I ordered the V30 from MF...if it sucks, you're dead meat!
bob
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Post by Curt on Nov 28, 2005 13:29:22 GMT -7
Hey Bob, If you'd like I can email you a clip of my Ghia through a V/30. A slow smokey blues clip, just a Strat straight into the Ghia, let me know. I've also got some country and southern rock flavored clips, depending on what you play/would like to hear.
Peach, on the cabs, your welcome, and thanks back atcha ! Kinda funny, your avatar shows my cab and mine shows yours !! LOL
Curt
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Post by zane on Nov 28, 2005 17:07:00 GMT -7
I was thinking about getting a 1x12 cab once & I asked the Dr what he'd recomend....he said a Vintage 30...
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Post by rpavich on Nov 28, 2005 17:57:05 GMT -7
Tele62, Yes, I'd like some clips if you can do that..
rpavich123@yahoo.com
thanks, bob
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Post by Curt on Nov 28, 2005 18:29:35 GMT -7
on the way Bob...........
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Post by byeats on Nov 28, 2005 19:06:33 GMT -7
tele62...
How does your Ghia compare to your 28 ? I am looking at both of those amps for my next purchase but I cant decided!
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Post by Curt on Nov 28, 2005 19:28:46 GMT -7
For me they are hard to compare, both KILLER amps as are all Z's, I have had a Route 66 and Maz Jr NR and still have the Ghia, Z-28 and Mini. I have not gigged the Z-28 near as much as the Ghia, and I always come back to my Ghia. I play in a band that covers a lot of musical territory but I prefer a 'lil hair on my tone and the Ghia just suits me and my tele's with slightly hotter pups, I can do the country thing, Southern Rock and blues with just a Kee;ey modded BD-2, Ghia and Tele. The Z-28 is a killer amp, my other player has a '59 RI Bassman and just begs to borrow the Z-28, and I let him 'cause it kills his Bassman's tone... ya can't go wrong with either, I'm just used to hearin' the Ghia when I play...another plus is you don't need to bias the EL-84 amps when you retube saving you some $$$ and down time. I recently put a P-90 in the neck of one tele and a hot '60's style bridge pup, when played through the Z-28 at aboutr noon it just SMOKES......but not when lower volume, the same Guit sounds great through the Ghia at ANY volume. Hope that helps...as I said they both ROCK Curt
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Post by rpavich on Nov 29, 2005 4:16:57 GMT -7
Tele62, That was a very good blues clip....well written and performed...I should be so talented! (but I'm not ) Byeats, for the record..If I COULD keep both..I would...they are the two best amps that the DR makes....the Ghia covers the "dirtier" end really well and the Z28 has the "glassy, fender clean, slightly hairy" thing down.... If I had the money, no amp would be going and the Ghia wouldnt have gone the first time! bob
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Post by bobotwt on Nov 29, 2005 12:11:54 GMT -7
tele62,
I'm about to get a either a Ghia or a Z28 and am looking for clips. Would you mind emailing me the clips? My email is bobotwt@yahoo.com I appreciate it.
Josh
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Post by Curt on Nov 29, 2005 13:17:02 GMT -7
Hey Josh, It's coming your way.
Curt
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Post by prowler on Nov 29, 2005 13:18:03 GMT -7
tele62... can you please send the files to me as well.
I sent you a PM with my email address.
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Post by rpavich on Nov 29, 2005 14:02:40 GMT -7
Tele62, Your famous! time to charge for clips!
bob
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Post by Curt on Nov 29, 2005 14:18:33 GMT -7
No kiddin' LOL
Someone help me on how to post 'em on the sounds page and we'll all save some time !?!?
Curt
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Post by StrangeC on Dec 3, 2005 2:07:44 GMT -7
According to the Dr., Brad Whitford's (Aerosmith) Ghia has a Vintage 30.
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Post by rpavich on Dec 5, 2005 4:18:48 GMT -7
More speaker info... I got the V30 this week in the mail from MF but an interesting twist has developed.....
I had a neck level/crown and a setup done on my 335 ...excellent job.... While I was at the shop, the guy that did the work (and is the owner) showed me a 70's champ that he restored...wow! is all I can say...it sounded killer... It had a "strange" looking 8" speaker in it...so I asked him what it was, and he said that it's his own speaker that he designs and builds...I asked him about a 12" version and he said he only makes 8" ones but that 2 x 8" would be great for my Ghia and it would blow my 1 x 12 away with no harm to the speakers....
I'm going to his shop in dec to listen to a "4 x 8" cab and going to plug the ghia into....I'll keep you posted....
bob
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Dec 5, 2005 6:30:21 GMT -7
Very interesting Bob - Let us know how the experiment turns out!
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Post by Curt on Dec 5, 2005 13:01:55 GMT -7
Hey Bob, I have a '70sumpthin' Silverface "Vibro Champ", Killer little amp, it see's a lot of playing time at the house, I go back and forth between it and the Mini Z. I put a Weber speaker and some NOS tubes in mine...fun factor big time....and @ 6 watts it don't piss off the wife !!!! (Although the Mini with 5 watts sure can LOL)
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