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Post by rpavich on Nov 26, 2005 8:06:30 GMT -7
Hi, I just bought a new es335 and am using it with my Z28. I'm trying to get back to a Ghia...
Question: does the ghia like humbucker guitars? I noticed that on the dr's site the clips are all strat style guitars..
What are your experiences?
bob
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Post by jvdunne on Nov 26, 2005 8:21:14 GMT -7
Yes, yes, yes. I use my CG with a PRS CE, with hums, and a Heritage 535 ( styled like a 335, but better and cheaper,IMHO,of course) with Hums, and the amp rocks. I have a Tele, and I really prefer the hums. You are going to love the combination.
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Post by steveinnashville on Nov 26, 2005 12:00:43 GMT -7
The Ghia loves both standard and coil-tapped sounds from my PRS McCarty Rosewood. My previous guitar with the Z was a Guild Starfire III reissue hollowbody with two humbuckers. It was fully hollow, the 335s have a block inside, so the feedback would be greatly reduced, but I didn't really have a problem with it at all even with the Guild. It sounded great with a booster in front of the Ghia when it was turned up to about 2:00. Nice. I would love to play a 335 through the Ghia- actually was just in Chicago and tried a 333- blonde dot neck Gibson- only $1200 or so a couple of years old. I think it's a great idea.
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Post by garyh on Nov 26, 2005 21:00:29 GMT -7
The Dean Parks video accessible frm DR Z's website (Reality video) has Dean playing both single coils and humbuckers in the second clip. It isn't a 335 but may give you some idea of the sound with humbuckers. Also, at the bottom of the Ghia page, there's a link to Pro Guitar where you can compare different Z amps with strats or Les Pauls. I don't think the sounds aren't great but you can hear the different qualities the guitars impart to the amps.
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Post by rpavich on Nov 28, 2005 4:36:17 GMT -7
garyh, I went to the site and checked out the dean parks vid...I've seen that one but never made it to the end! ha...
I actually liked the humbucker tone better than the single coil tone...
bob
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 28, 2005 8:35:35 GMT -7
A 'bucker-loaded 335 is absolutely, hands down my favorite axe with a Ghia. I prefer lower output paf-style pickups (WCR "Crossroads" are the pickups I've got in mine) in a 335 to really let the character of the guitar breathe and come through the amp. Of course the Ghia really does a marvellous job of bringing out the best of this character, as the Ghia really seems to bring out the true character of every guitar that you plug into it. My absolute favorite way to use the 335--->Ghia is to use the middle pickup setting with both pickups engaged, and then control the blend of each pickup with the volume controls. This is the way I get my favorite clean tones with the Ghia (by backing off the volume controls on both pickups). With both volume controls backed off to about "3" you can either roll the bridge pickup volume up to coax out a mostly bridge pickup tone but with a bit more added beef on the bass/lower mids, or you can roll up the neck 'bucker volume to get that great sweet singing neck 'bucker tone but with a little more bite added from the bridge pickup. Roll both pickup volumes up for some really thick yet articulate tones... Heck, it's nice to have the pickup toggle switch, but I could probably even live without it and just use the guitar in the fashion described above. I also really like the Z-Best (or other closed back, front ported cab) in particular with the 335--->Ghia setup, as this really accentuates the feel of air movement through the f-holes on the guitar body... you can just feel the guitar pumping and breathing with your playing. It's a really interactive guitar experience - I never feel like I'm more integrated into a guitar rig than I do with this setup. It's the kind of experience that makes you forget about where you are, forget about what time it is, and just play for hours. If I had one guitar and one amp on a desert island (with electricity of course), it'd be a 335 and a Ghia... So yeah, I think they work well together...
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Post by rpavich on Nov 29, 2005 4:19:18 GMT -7
Well, the Ghia will be here tomorrow...looks like it might be a "sick day" from work, I'm already feeling "under the weather"!
bob
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 29, 2005 6:50:15 GMT -7
Bob, you look like you're coming down with something... ...fever, chills, nausea. I recommend some high volume therapy from Dr. Z! ;D
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Post by JoeYello on Nov 29, 2005 9:12:48 GMT -7
I actually prefer the Ghia with my Les Pauls and a CS-336. I have been using an Analogman DS-1 with the LPs and the Ghia and it sounds amazing. When I plug the strat into the DS-1 to Ghia it sounds a bit muddy to me. I am running the Ghia's volume and tone at the noon setting (straight up). The Ghia is a 1x12 combo with a Weber Alnico Blue Dog 30 watter.
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Post by terryg on Nov 30, 2005 7:15:38 GMT -7
A 'bucker-loaded 335 is absolutely, hands down my favorite axe with a Ghia. .... My absolute favorite way to use the 335--->Ghia is to use the middle pickup setting with both pickups engaged, and then control the blend of each pickup with the volume controls. .... I also really like the Z-Best (or other closed back cab) in particular with the 335--->Ghia setup, .... If I had one guitar and one amp on a desert island (with electricity of course), it'd be a 335 and a Ghia... So yeah, I think they work well together... Sorry to hijack......but this is so eerily similar to what I exactly do with my Heritage "Blues Deluxe" (not stock, lots of mods). Virtually *everything* you said is a big "ditto" for me except for the Ghia part. This guitar is currently all over a Z28 and Z 2x10, and everything you say is true! In fact, I haven't even gotten around to plugging the Z28 into my Z-Best (but I did really enjoy using the 2x12 P12Qs loaded in my Victorilux - it was an interesting change going to a less efficient speaker setup at 4 Ohms). Oh hey, I do one thing different: I split the back pickup (bridge) often, since it's a rather high output affair. 335 (style) guitars are *great* with the Zs!
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 30, 2005 9:35:21 GMT -7
A 'bucker-loaded 335 is absolutely, hands down my favorite axe with a Ghia. .... My absolute favorite way to use the 335--->Ghia is to use the middle pickup setting with both pickups engaged, and then control the blend of each pickup with the volume controls. .... I also really like the Z-Best (or other closed back cab) in particular with the 335--->Ghia setup, .... If I had one guitar and one amp on a desert island (with electricity of course), it'd be a 335 and a Ghia... So yeah, I think they work well together... Sorry to hijack......but this is so eerily similar to what I exactly do with my Heritage "Blues Deluxe" (not stock, lots of mods). Virtually *everything* you said is a big "ditto" for me except for the Ghia part. This guitar is currently all over a Z28 and Z 2x10, and everything you say is true! In fact, I haven't even gotten around to plugging the Z28 into my Z-Best (but I did really enjoy using the 2x12 P12Qs loaded in my Victorilux - it was an interesting change going to a less efficient speaker setup at 4 Ohms). Oh hey, I do one thing different: I split the back pickup (bridge) often, since it's a rather high output affair. 335 (style) guitars are *great* with the Zs! Hey Terry! Well, it sounds to me like you're the 335---> Z-28 alter ego counterpart to me with the 335--->Ghia !!! How do you split that bridge pickup? Do you have coil taps on the tone pots? If that's the case, WHOA.... there wouldn't be ANYTHING your 335 couldn't do! Sometimes I get lost just having the toggle and dual volume controls. My 335 is somewhat modded as well... The WCR Crossroads pickups (low output PAF style 'buckers), Tonepros bridge and tailpiece, and a bone nut. I wanted to change the mini pots and ceramic caps that were in the guitar when I did the pickup swap, but my 335 knock-off has smaller than usual f-holes, which didn't allow the full-size CTS pots and paper foil in oil caps to fit through, so I had to stay with the ALPHA mini pots and stock ceramic caps... I did check to see if the pots were at least the proper values, and they were all within spec which kind of surprised me given that even Gibsons and Epi's often show up from the factory with out of spec pots... And let me say, MAN, is it a BEAR to swap pickups on a 335, ESPECIALLY when the f-holes are even smaller than usual!
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Post by terryg on Nov 30, 2005 12:23:33 GMT -7
still OT from the thread, but we're all friends here....
This is a trip, huh?
My Heritage is the Ed Roman "Blues Deluxe," which as I read it back then when I bought it was really a Heritage Prospect with appropriate mods - a block in the otherwise hollow body, tonepros bridge & tailpiece, and I forget the rest. I actually bought the guitar for the purpose of further modding it, and at the time I wanted something slightly narrower than a 335 (as well as not as expensive!).
The pickups split with the tone controls - you are correct - each pickup can be split by lifting its respective control. The p'ups were a surprise to me when the recommendation was made (by my teacher, in this case, as I was curious): SD Pearly Gates in front (neck) and a SD Distortion in back (bridge). "What, are you kidding?" was my first thought, especially with the Distortion ... turns out it was a great recommendation as this guitar is perfect for a covers gig. I can get the expected 335/semi-hollow sound, but flick this thing here and I can get a great rock sound, flick that over there and I can get a fat warm sound, on and on.
I didn't do the work, and I did ask for extra caps so that I wouldn't lose high end when I turned down. With the amps set the way they are, I get a lot of grit variety straight from the guitar. I like having a lot of push out of the guitar, and I figured I could always swap parts out if I didn't like it. Two years have gone by and it's still my go-to for "electric" work!
Kudos to Heritage - the guitar has taken gig abuse and it stands up well. For whatever reason I felt some kind of comfort getting this instrument knowing the history behind the hands that made it. And FWIW I had zero issues with Ed Roman's shop, if anyone's wondering.
Getting back on topic....given our "synchronicity" (which I truly trust) I'll feel great assurance and satisfaction *when* I eventually get my Ghia!
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Post by myles on Nov 30, 2005 12:28:50 GMT -7
still OT from the thread, but we're all friends here.... This is a trip, huh? My Heritage is the Ed Roman "Blues Deluxe," which as I read it back then when I bought it was really a Heritage Prospect with appropriate mods - a block in the otherwise hollow body, tonepros bridge & tailpiece, and I forget the rest. I actually bought the guitar for the purpose of further modding it, and at the time I wanted something slightly narrower than a 335 (as well as not as expensive!). The pickups split with the tone controls - you are correct - each pickup can be split by lifting its respective control. The p'ups were a surprise to me when the recommendation was made (by my teacher, in this case, as I was curious): SD Pearly Gates in front (neck) and a SD Distortion in back (bridge). "What, are you kidding?" was my first thought, especially with the Distortion ... turns out it was a great recommendation as this guitar is perfect for a covers gig. I can get the expected 335/semi-hollow sound, but flick this thing here and I can get a great rock sound, flick that over there and I can get a fat warm sound, on and on. I didn't do the work, and I did ask for extra caps so that I wouldn't lose high end when I turned down. With the amps set the way they are, I get a lot of grit variety straight from the guitar. I like having a lot of push out of the guitar, and I figured I could always swap parts out if I didn't like it. Two years have gone by and it's still my go-to for "electric" work! Kudos to Heritage - the guitar has taken gig abuse and it stands up well. For whatever reason I felt some kind of comfort getting this instrument knowing the history behind the hands that made it. And FWIW I had zero issues with Ed Roman's shop, if anyone's wondering. Getting back on topic....given our "synchronicity" (which I truly trust) I'll feel great assurance and satisfaction *when* I eventually get my Ghia! Terry .... you should know all about the Carmen Ghia at this point ;D as you have played mine a few times. In any case .... next time you are out I will have a great V1 tube for your Ghia coming (whether you have it at that point or not). I will also have a ultra trace matched set of output tubes for you.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 30, 2005 14:33:30 GMT -7
myles, I wish I lived in Cali! Still, someday I'll make the trek out there again (last time I was there was before I knew you through the forums), and I've gotta make sure I schedule the extra time for a visit. My wife was just there last year and I suggested she take my Ghia with her as her "carry on" on the plane and stop by your place for a vist. I'm still not quite sure why she just laughed at me....
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Post by propellr on Nov 30, 2005 16:05:34 GMT -7
My wife bought me an ES-335 in honor the birth of our son! Ahh! Ain't life grand?
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Post by terryg on Nov 30, 2005 16:18:01 GMT -7
Congratulations! What an awesome wife - she gives you a son, and a guitar! Congratulations on everything.
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Post by terryg on Nov 30, 2005 16:23:52 GMT -7
Terry .... you should know all about the Carmen Ghia at this point ;D as you have played mine a few times. In any case .... next time you are out I will have a great V1 tube for your Ghia coming (whether you have it at that point or not). I will also have a ultra trace matched set of output tubes for you. ohhhhh drool. Myles Claus can see into my amps (and my future amps!) all the way from California! My current amp acquisition was a left-field opportunity that I couldn't resist. With minor regrets it did set back my Ghia, but I'm sure that'll be "rectified" within a few months! Myles, you're an inspiration.
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Post by propellr on Nov 30, 2005 21:15:35 GMT -7
Thanks, terryg! She's wonderful and really believes in me. I like my ES-335 even more than the Les Paul she bought me as a wedding present.
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Post by terryg on Nov 30, 2005 21:42:08 GMT -7
If you just heard a thudding sound, it was my jaw...I'll grab that on my way out tonight.... ;D
Congrats again, you're clearly something special, certainly to her and she to you. What a blessing!
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Dec 1, 2005 4:48:59 GMT -7
Thanks, terryg! She's wonderful and really believes in me. I like my ES-335 even more than the Les Paul she bought me as a wedding present. Geez man, she's bought you TWO guitars?!! That's fantastic! Is your wife single? ;D Seriously, congratulations on the birth of your son.
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Post by BW on Dec 1, 2005 8:02:03 GMT -7
My wife SOLD my 335 in honor of the birth of our son...for ABOUT a grand ;^)
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Post by propellr on Dec 1, 2005 8:21:08 GMT -7
Ouch! Sorry to hear that, BW. Sounds like somebody got a deal on that guitar!
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Post by myles on Dec 1, 2005 10:49:19 GMT -7
myles, I wish I lived in Cali! Still, someday I'll make the trek out there again (last time I was there was before I knew you through the forums), and I've gotta make sure I schedule the extra time for a visit. My wife was just there last year and I suggested she take my Ghia with her as her "carry on" on the plane and stop by your place for a vist. I'm still not quite sure why she just laughed at me.... Next time your wife is out this way she does not even have to bring the amp .... I'd give her a care package to bring home. She could hang with my wife for a bit and I am sure the two of them could complain about the two of us
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Post by myles on Dec 1, 2005 10:53:50 GMT -7
My wife bought me an ES-335 in honor the birth of our son! Ahh! Ain't life grand? What a great gal! The again .... I see a few potential problems .... 1. Is this a reason to have more kids? As in ... do you get a cool Strat for another baby? Do you get a Tele for a girl? Do you need to produce twins for a Gretsch White Falcon? Tripplets for a 58-60 LP Flametop? 2. Are you now expected to do all the late night baby duties (and doodie duty)? Maybe it is just a sincere thank you with no hidden agenda. Actually ... my wife never gave me anything when our kids were born. So ... take your wife out for a great dinner (don't fret ... new babies are super easy to travel with and take to a restaurant ... it is when they are about a year old that the clanging silverware on the table begins).
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Post by myles on Dec 1, 2005 10:55:23 GMT -7
Terry .... you should know all about the Carmen Ghia at this point ;D as you have played mine a few times. In any case .... next time you are out I will have a great V1 tube for your Ghia coming (whether you have it at that point or not). I will also have a ultra trace matched set of output tubes for you. ohhhhh drool. Myles Claus can see into my amps (and my future amps!) all the way from California! My current amp acquisition was a left-field opportunity that I couldn't resist. With minor regrets it did set back my Ghia, but I'm sure that'll be "rectified" within a few months! Myles, you're an inspiration. Terry .... you are too kind .... calling me an inspriation You know my wife and I am sure she would have other words or descriptive phrases for me that would not come close to "inspriation" ;D
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Post by myles on Dec 1, 2005 10:57:51 GMT -7
Thanks, terryg! She's wonderful and really believes in me. I like my ES-335 even more than the Les Paul she bought me as a wedding present. Les Paul as a wedding present? Not to be redundant from my last reply on this subject but ..... I have been married three times. NONE of them EVER got me a wedding present! I had kids with two of the three ... and never got a present when any of the three kids were born. It sounds to me like you have a real keeper in your wife! Take her out to TWO great dinners and do a couple of after midnight diaper changes ;D
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Post by myles on Dec 1, 2005 11:03:31 GMT -7
My wife SOLD my 335 in honor of the birth of our son...for ABOUT a grand ;^) It could be worse .... my wife would love to sell everything I own to send the kids to some ultra swanky private schools. The reason that has not happened it that selling it all would not put a dent in the bucket for what these places want. It is so amazing to realize that some elementary schools charge upwards of $15,000 a year. Maybe it's just me .... but I went to public schools and back then they even were allowed to hit you when you were being a wise arse. Seems to have worked okay for me ... I mean .... I am able to read and write (I think most can sort of grasp what I am trying to say) .... and I have made it 56 years on this planet without too much going terribly wrong. Well ... if your son is talented or looks great get him in the baby advertisment game and take his income to replace your guitar!
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Post by propellr on Dec 1, 2005 12:15:06 GMT -7
Yeah, Myles, she sure is a keeper! There's no hidden agenda with her. She very overtly wants me to make music and to sound good.
I'd love a big family, and yes, I'm sure she would give a strat or tele should a new little propellr arrive. I think I'LL have a baby before I'd get a vintage flametop LP! I'd prefer a LP junior in TV yellow, anyway.
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Post by terryg on Dec 1, 2005 12:18:18 GMT -7
Terry .... you are too kind .... calling me an inspriation You know my wife and I am sure she would have other words or descriptive phrases for me that would not come close to "inspriation" ;D It's a song I don't mind singing over and over - you've taught me so much over the years, turned me on to all sorts of cool amps and just things in general..... You know, having a wife that'll agree to interior design by Dr.Z might rank right up there with a wife that'll give you king-of-the-hill guitars to commemorate the major chapters in your life. Going topical, I have indeed been plenty exposed to the CG courtesy of you, but we didn't use a 335. Do you have one, or do you work with clients that do? Any stories?
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