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Post by lclyman on Aug 24, 2007 5:31:27 GMT -7
Hi all, I'm considering replacing the stock tube rectifier in my Maz Jr NR 2x10 combo just for reliability purposes...
Can anyone chime in with comments and/or comparisons between the Weber and GT SS rectifiers..?
Thanks. Larry
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Post by bigrandy on Aug 24, 2007 5:34:17 GMT -7
my understanding is that the weber is meant to emulate the "sag" of a tube rectifier and the gt is just a straight up ss unit. i might be wrong on this, hopefully myles of ted weber will chime in on this. i ended up going with the gt in my delta 88 and really enjoyed it. it was a subtle difference and something i felt more than i heard.
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Post by myles on Aug 29, 2007 9:12:43 GMT -7
my understanding is that the weber is meant to emulate the "sag" of a tube rectifier and the gt is just a straight up ss unit. i might be wrong on this, hopefully myles of ted weber will chime in on this. i ended up going with the gt in my delta 88 and really enjoyed it. it was a subtle difference and something i felt more than i heard. You are 100% right. There is no difference in conventional solid state rectifiers.... heck, you can grab a tube base if you have one and wire one up yourself if you have a few 4007 diodes. BUT .... The Weber Copper Caps are a very different story. These things give you some of the best of both worlds. You get the reliability of a SS rectifier but the touch and dynamics of a tube rectifier. Disadvantages? Well, you might think they would cost more but in reality they really don't. I think they are $25 or so, maybe a bit less for the plug in models. In fact .... let me grab the link and post it here.... www.webervst.com/ccap.htmlVoila .... there you go ... all the info.
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 13, 2007 14:42:13 GMT -7
my understanding is that the weber is meant to emulate the "sag" of a tube rectifier and the gt is just a straight up ss unit. i might be wrong on this, hopefully myles of ted weber will chime in on this. i ended up going with the gt in my delta 88 and really enjoyed it. it was a subtle difference and something i felt more than i heard. You are 100% right. There is no difference in conventional solid state rectifiers.... heck,you can grab a tube base if you have one and wire one up yourself if you have a few 4007 diodes. BUT .... The Weber Copper Caps are a very different story. These things give you some of the best of both worlds. You get the reliability of a SS rectifier but the touch and dynamics of a tube rectifier. Disadvantages? Well, you might think they would cost more but in reality they really don't. I think they are $25 or so, maybe a bit less for the plug in models. In fact .... let me grab the link and post it here.... www.webervst.com/ccap.htmlVoila .... there you go ... all the info. So then, why aren't more people on this forum snatching up the Weber Copper Caps? They sound too good to be true....or is Myles just being diplomatic when he can't come up with any disadvantage (over tube rectifiers?)?
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Post by dixiechicken on Sept 14, 2007 2:05:03 GMT -7
Haha I'm sure "Myles" can be as diplomatic as can be, if he want's to It may simply be the fact that when you buy an all handmade tube-amp you'd like to keep it as stock as possible. (even when you tinker with it ) (buy NOS tubes that you use - but keep the originals as spares or to put back in - if you decide to sell the amp ) Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 14, 2007 7:16:44 GMT -7
Haha I'm sure "Myles" can be as diplomatic as can be, if he want's to It may simply be the fact that when you buy an all handmade tube-amp you'd like to keep it as stock as possible. (even when you tinker with it ) (buy NOS tubes that you use - but keep the originals as spares or to put back in - if you decide to sell the amp ) Cheers: Dixiechicken The reason I asked the question is because my amp's stock rectifier tube, a Sovtek, blew (after blowing several fuses) and I have to replace it. I am wondering if the $22 Weber Copper Cap compares favorably enough in terms of performance to forgo spending $150 on an NOS Mullard GZ34/5AR4.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Sept 14, 2007 7:19:21 GMT -7
I actually have both. I use my NOS Mullard in the amp, and have the Copper Cap in my gig back with the box of fuses. If the Mullard ever gives up on a gig, I can keep going with the Copper Cap.
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Post by kruzty on Sept 14, 2007 7:25:15 GMT -7
I'd say to try the Weber. If you don't like it as well as a tube, you have a dependable backup. I have one that I carry as a backup, but if my rectifiers go I will probably just replace them with the copper caps and never have to worry about them again.
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 14, 2007 7:41:56 GMT -7
I actually have both. I use my NOS Mullard in the amp, and have the Copper Cap in my gig back with the box of fuses. If the Mullard ever gives up on a gig, I can keep going with the Copper Cap. Can you tell me how they compare in terms of sound and performance?
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Post by bluzman on Sept 14, 2007 8:07:37 GMT -7
I just bought 6 MORE... I already own some Copper Caps. I have A/B'd two identical Maz Jrs. (both red too cuz we all know they sound bettah) I couldn't notice a difference in tone. There is a huge difference with warm-up time!! The Copper Cap comes up FAST!!
I just bought the 5U4 (WU4) and 5V4 (WV4) to experiment in the Maz and Ghias to see what happens with the compression!
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 14, 2007 8:27:12 GMT -7
I just bought 6 MORE... I already own some Copper Caps. I have A/B'd two identical Maz Jrs. (both red too cuz we all know they sound bettah) I couldn't notice a difference in tone. There is a huge difference with warm-up time!! The Copper Cap comes up FAST!! I just bought the 5U4 (WU4) and 5V4 (WV4) to experiment in the Maz and Ghias to see what happens with the compression! Okay, let me see if I got this right: You A/B'd two Maz Jrs. - one with a Copper Cap and the other with a Mullard GZ43? And you couldn't tell the difference?
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Post by bluzman on Sept 14, 2007 11:14:00 GMT -7
Okay, let me see if I got this right: You A/B'd two Maz Jrs. - one with a Copper Cap and the other with a Mullard GZ43? And you couldn't tell the difference? NO!! It wasn't a Mullard... It is a NOS Siemens that is still in that MazJr.! I also have two KJL Dirty Thirty amps and they can operate Class A/B. These amps have SS rectifiers (they don't look like Copper Caps or Webers at all) and the compression on these amps is "dope" to quote my son!! But these amps are a totally different beast! I have some 5U4 and 5Y4 Weber Copper Caps coming and will test my Mazs and Ghias with them. It's a sickness with no cure...
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 14, 2007 14:27:05 GMT -7
It's a sickness with no cure... Yeah, tell me about it...
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