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Post by awall on Apr 28, 2007 16:42:25 GMT -7
I have aproblem I live some were there is no place close to try out dr z amps. I am wondering what is the best dr z blues alt country amp? I have a 38 sr. and love it . Is the Stang Ray the way to go?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 28, 2007 16:54:03 GMT -7
I have aproblem I live some were there is no place close to try out dr z amps. I am wondering what is the best dr z blues alt country amp? I have a 38 sr. and love it . Is the Stang Ray the way to go? For blues I think you would need a bit of boost on the Stang Ray to get that kind of feel. But I doubt you'll find anything anywhere to compare to the Stang Ray for country. I use an RC booster with my Stingray when I play blues, and it works great.
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Post by awall on Apr 28, 2007 17:04:37 GMT -7
Thanks, I am thanking about the ray. I have just heard so many good thing. I thought about about the RXes but the sound clips sound a little dry for what I want.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 28, 2007 17:52:27 GMT -7
Thanks, I am thanking about the ray. I have just heard so many good thing. I thought about about the RXes but the sound clips sound a little dry for what I want. I have both. They are very similar, but the RXES has quite a bit more gain. Here's a clip I did of both through a 2x12 with Alnico Golds - same speakers, same mic, Stingray is first, then the RXES (guitar is a Grosh Tele): www.gear.strayca.com/audio/RXES/StingrayRXES_AlnicoGolds.mp3The RXES can get a lot gainier too. Here it is wide open with my PRS Singlecut: www.gear.strayca.com/audio/RXES/RXESPAFSingecut.mp3So you can get quite a variety of sounds with the RXES, but I wouldn't call it a blues amp. Neither would I call the Stang Ray a blues amp, but I been doing it with pedals, and no one is complaining.
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Post by (8^D) on Apr 28, 2007 18:45:46 GMT -7
For Alt country and blues?
No questions, I'd get a Route 66.
Toured TX doing shows with Ragweed, Randy Rogers, Blu Edmonson, Stoney Larue, etc. with that head.
Was perfect - at least once a week I had a sound company or another guitar player try to buy that thing off me. Just sounded awesome for that kinda material.
And, you can wail on some blues on the other nights...
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Post by John on Apr 29, 2007 6:28:34 GMT -7
Blues alt country amp?.....and you've got a Maz Sr.? I would think that would be fine.
...however, I can back up the recommendation of the Route 66.
Blues alt country? I don't think the Stangray would be all that good for that....but I don't have one so take that with a grain of salt.
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Post by jcshirke on May 15, 2007 14:18:02 GMT -7
I'm also looking at getting my first Z, and I'm very surprised to hear you say that the Maz Sr. is--apparently--not what you are looking for in a blues, alt. country amp. That's exactly why I *am* looking at getting that amp, in fact. I would think it would be perfect for that genre, among other things. What do you think it's lacking?
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Post by awall on May 17, 2007 15:42:37 GMT -7
Thanks for all the help. I think I my go for a 66. I bought a ray but now it is back on ebay. It is the best country amp I have ever heard! The Maz Sr. is a grate SRV type sound but I am looking for somthing glassy and smooth to go with it.
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Post by taswegian on May 17, 2007 19:18:55 GMT -7
The Route 66 isn't what I'd call "glassy". Smooth, yes, but if you mean glassy as in that sweet chimey top end it's probably not the amp you want. It's kinda big, thick, warm, round, fat, but not really glassy, or particularily sparkley if that's what you're looking for.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2007 19:33:25 GMT -7
I am looking for somthing glassy and smooth to go with it. Maybe a Maz Jr.?
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Post by jwr on May 17, 2007 20:08:31 GMT -7
I think you already own the amp to do the job. Maybe you just need to experiment with some tubes.
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Post by Don on May 19, 2007 7:20:20 GMT -7
I have aproblem I live some were there is no place close to try out dr z amps. I am wondering what is the best dr z blues alt country amp? I have a 38 sr. and love it . Is the Stang Ray the way to go? This may sound a bit elementary, but what cable are you using from your guitar to the amp?
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Post by myles on May 19, 2007 8:58:51 GMT -7
I have aproblem I live some were there is no place close to try out dr z amps. I am wondering what is the best dr z blues alt country amp? I have a 38 sr. and love it . Is the Stang Ray the way to go? For blues I think you would need a bit of boost on the Stang Ray to get that kind of feel. But I doubt you'll find anything anywhere to compare to the Stang Ray for country. I use an RC booster with my Stingray when I play blues, and it works great. A lot of folks, especially in here, think of the "Ray" as a "country amp" due to folks like Brad Paisley. BUT .... remember that the "Ray" has it's basic foundation and roots in the Vox AC30/4 camp and this is one of the few amps that is the history of many rock tones of the past. Brad uses a lot of AC/30 tones and still records a lot of stuff with his Vox amps. Carl Verheyen uses an AC/30 with a Twin Reverb for one of the two sides of his rig. Carl is one of those folks you should listen to if you want to hear every guitar style and tone that have ever been done and it is all done these days with an SRZ-65) that replaced his Marshall, his AC/30 and Twin Reverb. His AC/30 is scheduled for replacement by a Stingray as a side note. One more point on the Stingray .... this is in the AC-30/4 camp .... the Voxes that used the EF86 in the front end. The AC-15 was, and is, one of the greatest tone generators on the planet. The AC30/4 grew from that amp and many feel it was the best of the AC/30 amps. That EF86 pentode front end gets along better with any pedals far more nicely than a dual triode (12AX7) that will compress much more quickly and has other issues when overdriven. So .... is the Stingray a blues amp? You bet .... with a lot of clean headroom on tap if you want it. Just toss something like a Keeley Blues Driver or moderate gain pedal in front of the amp and go. Hard and heavy rock? I could not begin to list all these bands and players that use the AC-30 and their offshoots (Laney, Tophat, Matchless, and on and on). But ... the Z Stingray was the first to use the forst Vox AC30/4 design as a foundation and any other's that have tried this fell down in my mind as they went for something that was not the original intension when they just plugged a pentode in the front end, if they chose that route, but then jacked up the gain and lost the recipe. The Doc's design takes the magic of the original and eliminated the weak spots that newer technology or thinking had some advantages over the past. The "Ray" may be one of the finest all around amps that can do a LOT of things VERY well and also exceed the original amp target on everyday occasions. Get a simple pedal board .... two distortion pedals ... mild and wild .... a chorus .... and perhaps a flanger for that sixties stuff if you want to go that route too.
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Post by myles on May 19, 2007 9:01:05 GMT -7
For Alt country and blues? No questions, I'd get a Route 66. Toured TX doing shows with Ragweed, Randy Rogers, Blu Edmonson, Stoney Larue, etc. with that head. Was perfect - at least once a week I had a sound company or another guitar player try to buy that thing off me. Just sounded awesome for that kinda material. And, you can wail on some blues on the other nights... This is another great amp for blues .... think of a Marshall JTM-45 as a basic thought but then make an amp that will do that Marshallesque thing and about 30 more things the Marshall won't do. Again .... the magic of that pentode in the front end with pedals is hard to ignore. But for the player who asked the question intially I would prefer the "Ray" as it can get very articulate cleans and that to be is a great foundation that is missing in so many amps today and many in the past. If you have those cleans and sparkle, at that point with pedals you can do a lot.
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