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Post by Jefferson on Dec 5, 2019 9:19:19 GMT -7
Went into one of the guitar centers in Denver yesterday. They have a special room for high end gear, both new and used. They had a Duesenberg Fullerton model on the wall and a Z Plus. Well an hour later I was talking to a sales-guy about that guitar. I've always felt that the Duesenbergs were perhaps just a little trendy. Guess you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. That guitar just sang. The workmanship was stellar and it responded exactly the way I wanted it to. The Bigsby looking "tremola" is truly a better mousetrap. Instead of having to attach the strings to a tiny post, you actually run the strings through the rail the posts are typically attached to and you are in business. Not sure why that hasn't happened before Duesenberg.
Anyway, as it turns out, both the sales guy and the store manager shared that they had been personally impacted by the organization I work for, which was obvious based on a jacket I was wearing. So without even asking they offered me a significant discount on that guitar, 48 months financing at 0% and a bundle of new strings. I normally just go into that guitar center to buy strings and look around, but twice now I have left that particular store with what I believe to be great deals on great guitars. The other one was a Nash strat I traded for there a few years ago.
Anyway, if Joe Walsh can play Duesenbergs then I guess they are good enough for me!
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Post by purpletele on Dec 5, 2019 9:54:47 GMT -7
Did your jacket have a Luchesse Crime Family Emblem?
very cool guitar, sounds like you have a formula going on buying at GC.
that bridge looks very efficient
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Post by steiner on Dec 5, 2019 11:53:56 GMT -7
Nice guitar, congrats. Tell us about the Z-Plus!
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Post by j4gitr (John) on Dec 5, 2019 13:32:38 GMT -7
Yes, what about the Z-Plus? Is that going home soon?
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 5, 2019 13:50:11 GMT -7
I liked the Z plus, although I am more of a Marshall/Vox kinda guy. I think someone else will have to enjoy the Z plus, especially with the release of the Z Wreck Jr. pending.
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Post by runninwiththerevil (Matthew) on Dec 5, 2019 21:09:51 GMT -7
I was super close to pulling the trigger on a Duesenberg. Then I came across a deal on a Suhr JM that was too good to pass up. I really love the Suhr, but every now and then I'll be listening to Jason Isbell and get stopped at the unique tone. It's always a song that he used a D on.
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Post by trojanhov on Dec 6, 2019 2:45:01 GMT -7
Been looking at duesenbergs real closely lately! That’s a looker!
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Post by lowbudget on Dec 6, 2019 6:35:57 GMT -7
Been looking at duesenbergs real closely lately! That’s a looker! It sure is! Whats the weight like?
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 6, 2019 8:12:24 GMT -7
Been looking at duesenbergs real closely lately! That’s a looker! It sure is! Whats the weight like? not exactly sure of the weight, but it feels like its maybe 7 pounds or slightly less.
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Post by helmi on Dec 8, 2019 5:45:36 GMT -7
Very nice, congrats!
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 13, 2019 21:50:11 GMT -7
So many things I loved about this guitar, but alas it was not to be. Gigged it last weekend and fought the tuning the whole time. I spent a lot of time stretching the strings so I know they were all good. Unfortunately i think the nut slots needed to be corrected and frankly every time I barely touched the trem it went out of tune. I also discovered that the bridge was designed to rock back and forth a slight bit when the trem was used. I don’t love that idea. The tones were glorious but I just can’t abide the thought of spending more than 2k on a guitar only to have to put more money into it to get it right. Took that dusey back to guitar center where it belongs.
On a different note, I made a nice acquisition from our friend Brent at Guitar Riot. Look for more on that in the next couple of days...
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Post by Ridgeback on Dec 14, 2019 10:12:28 GMT -7
Sorry it didn't work out for you. I've been looking for a hollow\semi hollow with Bigsby for several years without success so far. 90-95% of them have failed the test due to tuning stability issues. (Yes, I've heard about, and tried, all of the "fixes" but they don't get me there). I had a tele custom built with a Bigsby in mind from the start and it is rock solid so I know it can be done and I know there are a ton of factory Bigsby hollow\semis out there. Some of them have to be stable. I just have not found one yet. Boy, there was a factory Bigsby 335 in beautiful aged Pelham Blue that I sure wanted to love about a year ago but it turned out to be as bad as all the rest. I keep looking.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Dec 15, 2019 13:28:18 GMT -7
So many things I loved about this guitar, but alas it was not to be. Gigged it last weekend and fought the tuning the whole time. I spent a lot of time stretching the strings so I know they were all good. Unfortunately i think the nut slots needed to be corrected and frankly every time I barely touched the trem it went out of tune. I also discovered that the bridge was designed to rock back and forth a slight bit when the trem was used. I don’t love that idea. The tones were glorious but I just can’t abide the thought of spending more than 2k on a guitar only to have to put more money into it to get it right. Took that dusey back to guitar center where it belongs. On a different note, I made a nice acquisition from our friend Brent at Guitar Riot. Look for more on that in the next couple of days... Sorry to hear that, it's a great looking guitar. If it'll help, I have found that almost every guitar I've bought has needed some attention paid to the nut. They always seem to find a way to bind up a little, so I use some abrasive (fine) polishing cord and polish the slots out. Then I'll pull the string sharp behind the nut, let go, and see if it goes back into tune. The only guitars I haven't needed to do that to were custom shop models, my '68 Black Beauty and my '64 Time machine Strat. Every other guitar needed the nut to be polished.
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Post by Rhythmark on Dec 23, 2019 8:25:51 GMT -7
Yes, guitar stores rarely set up guitars properly. It does happen! Even sweet water.
But I learned to to all that myself as I never had any one set up a guitar better. But if you have a vibrato bar, Best to have all moving points lubed, locking tuners, and the nut slots widened. I use strat style vibratos, And have them float, And they stay in tune with use. If your lucky you guitar will just be ready when you get it!
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 23, 2019 22:39:59 GMT -7
You all make great points about the extra work you sometimes have to put in to get the best out of a guitar. I think that when I realized that their design was for the bridge to intentionally rock back and forth when you used the trem bar that I just thought that it was gonna be a lot of extra work just to get “close”. Having a guitar stay in tune and intonate correctly are super important to me. A moving bridge just seems to beg for tuning issues.
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Post by nicholas on Dec 24, 2019 6:53:25 GMT -7
Looks like in the end you got the guitar you wanted, the Eastman. So congrats! I've never had a bigsby. But out of curiosity, I don't understand why the bridge would be designed to rock back and forth? Not knowing much (or anything) about bigbys but wouldn't a locking roller bridge (link) be the preferred bridge for a bigsby?
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 24, 2019 7:50:53 GMT -7
Looks like in the end you got the guitar you wanted, the Eastman. So congrats! I've never had a bigsby. But out of curiosity, I don't understand why the bridge would be designed to rock back and forth? Not knowing much (or anything) about bigbys but wouldn't a locking roller bridge (link) be the preferred bridge for a bigsby? Exactly. It makes no sense to design instability into a system that needs to be fairly precise. Their website shows it as a benefit.
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