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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 11, 2019 16:43:48 GMT -7
Hello there, I've done a little search and could not find the answer I was looking for. Dr. Z current 10 inch speaker, which comes in the 1x10 cabinet... I find it too "bassy". I have to adjust my pedals to the speaker voice to get rid of them. Anyone has encountered this issue? Thanks!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Nov 11, 2019 16:54:36 GMT -7
Couple of questions for you - What type of amp do you plan on using with it? What type of guitars/pedals do you use?
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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 11, 2019 17:22:27 GMT -7
Couple of questions for you - What type of amp do you plan on using with it? What type of guitars/pedals do you use? Thank you Sir, so far I've run the Ghia (not much of an issue since the tone dial is so simple), a VOX AC15 head - "normal" input (here is where I feel it the most), a Route 66 (very noticeable) and the Wreck (very noticeable but adjustable). Pedals: I've got 2 pedalboards in use, basically the 1st with J Rockett Archer Icon, Blue Note, and Hot Rubber Monkey as overdrives, with just tape delay (Empress); the 2nd runs Xotic RC+AC boosters, EH Soul Food and FlatIron Fuzz + Flashback delay. Guitars: Tele, LP, and 335's. Thanks!
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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 12, 2019 6:31:54 GMT -7
Mmmm. Maybe it needs more breakin' in? It's kinda beginning to sound more well-rounded now...
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Nov 12, 2019 9:33:28 GMT -7
In my experience, 10s take longer to break in than 12s, assuming you put the same signals through them.
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Post by pcns on Nov 12, 2019 9:51:09 GMT -7
I have a pair of Dr Z 10's that I use with my Carmen Ghia, I was surprised by how much I like them. I don't recall hearing much about break in with those speakers . . . . I have one in a cab and one in my combo. The combo has way more hours on it so when I get a chance I will compare them and see if there is much difference
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Post by goodez on Nov 12, 2019 15:32:14 GMT -7
My 2x10 Z cab did have a little more bass on tap than the 1x12 Z cab but overall I think Z amps just pack lots of bass. I believe the Doc was trying to adjust this with some of the mkii models being released correct? Both my Lux and Z28 stay well below noon on the bass knobs, closer to 9 o-clock actually.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Nov 12, 2019 16:08:55 GMT -7
Yes, I agree that Zs just have more punch. Doc uses stout power supplies and massive output transformers in most of his designs so you’re going to get a ton more low end than you would ever expect out of say the 18-watt Maz Jr. And as you all know, that’s an el84 design! The Lux and the EZG50 have a stunning amount of low end, and it stays tight.
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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 12, 2019 17:27:24 GMT -7
Thanks for all the replies. My ears are now getting used to the new sound, I am beginning to like it. I am rolling off some bass, and elevated the cab well above the floor with a nice stand. Also keeping it a little farther from the wall. Thanks to all for the replies!
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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 13, 2019 20:21:09 GMT -7
My apologies to the entire community and specially to Dr. Mike. Here is how I found the best tone for my guitar: VOX AC15: switched from "normal" to "top boost" channel, rolled off some bass, pumped up the treble, and voila. GHIA: tone control at 10-10:30. SORRY DOC FOR EVER DOUBTING YOU!
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Nov 14, 2019 5:59:52 GMT -7
This thread has me interested in the 10" Z speaker now. In my research I discovered that Doc makes a 4x10 cabinet, never knew that. But am thinking of adding a 2x10 convertible to the mix. I've always been partial to 12s, but 10s with decent low end response are very appealing to me. You just don't get as much variety or selection with 10s as opposed to 12s. These may be it!
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Post by lowbudget on Nov 14, 2019 7:14:14 GMT -7
This thread has me interested in the 10" Z speaker now. In my research I discovered that Doc makes a 4x10 cabinet, never knew that. But am thinking of adding a 2x10 convertible to the mix. I've always been partial to 12s, but 10s with decent low end response are very appealing to me. You just don't get as much variety or selection with 10s as opposed to 12s. These may be it! Prepare to be very pleasantly surprised. Just one opinion but I have always found Doc’s 10s to punch WAY above their weight class, especially in a real Z cab. Part of this is that subjectively they have always struck me as more efficient than their rating. And you can pretty much take low end response off your list of concerns.
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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 14, 2019 7:45:06 GMT -7
This thread has me interested in the 10" Z speaker now. In my research I discovered that Doc makes a 4x10 cabinet, never knew that. But am thinking of adding a 2x10 convertible to the mix. I've always been partial to 12s, but 10s with decent low end response are very appealing to me. You just don't get as much variety or selection with 10s as opposed to 12s. These may be it! Prepare to be very pleasantly surprised. Just one opinion but I have always found Doc’s 10s to punch WAY above their weight class, especially in a real Z cab. Part of this is that subjectively they have always struck me as more efficient than their rating. And you can pretty much take low end response off your list of concerns. Absolutely agree. With my Z amps I really have no desire to buy more expensive stuff. I cannot justify it, and believe me I've been tempted by 2-Rock and Matchless a few times. The Ghia, Route 66 (with a Tele!) and the Wreck (with whatever you plug into it) sound way better than I can play. That's my reality. When I play live, I use the AC15 "to hide mistakes", something you cannot do as easily with Dr. Z's amps. As an example, if you want to work in your dynamics, attack, etc: plug a Tele into the Ghia and if you make 1 mistake, you'll hear it loud and clear. I think Dr. Z amps help you play better. Or get used to your mistakes?
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Post by rolinga75 on Nov 18, 2019 7:51:04 GMT -7
Hello there, I've done a little search and could not find the answer I was looking for. Dr. Z current 10 inch speaker, which comes in the 1x10 cabinet... I find it too "bassy". I have to adjust my pedals to the speaker voice to get rid of them. Anyone has encountered this issue? Thanks! Finally got to like Dr Z's 10 inch. But replaced it with a Celestion Gold, and end of story. Glorious. Dr. Z's 10 inch is going into a friend's Vibrolux to give it more bass handling and punch at low volumes.
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Post by GT Roger on Nov 27, 2019 8:59:00 GMT -7
I've been using a Z-10 with a Celestion gold 10" in a Z 2x10 open back cabinet for about a year now. I'm pushing it with a EZG-50 head. I really like the blend of the two. It's a good combination of smooth and punch. It also seems to cut through the mix nicely.
I've never tried running a 1x10 cabinet or combo. I need to push more air, since we have a pretty loud band.
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Post by digs57 on Nov 27, 2019 15:11:44 GMT -7
Gold 10 is hard not to like...you could always say that it sounded too good?
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