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Post by helmi on Jun 20, 2019 16:33:15 GMT -7
Anybody using these on there effects pedal switches? discovered these 3-4 years ago. fantastic. one of the best "small" inventions I've seen. I have them on all my pedals.
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Post by goodez on Jun 21, 2019 5:04:29 GMT -7
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Jun 21, 2019 6:21:59 GMT -7
I’ve looked at those as well, but it would about $100 to outfit my board and candidly I’ve never had a problem hitting the switch I was aiming at.
Now, tap dancing to get 3 effects on in less than a beat has sometimes been a trick.
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Post by Christopher on Jun 22, 2019 12:28:34 GMT -7
I have two metal w set screw ones I got from Analogman when I bought a pedal and a set of 12 I picked up from Amazon that are plastic and snap on to button. They're great to use and colored for the fashion minded pedalboard junkie. Helps me navigate my diminutive PT nano and nano+ boards.
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Post by zpilot on Jun 24, 2019 6:38:05 GMT -7
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jun 24, 2019 8:49:13 GMT -7
Great thread, I didn't know they existed. For about a buck each zpilot's solution rocks.
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Post by mcook217 on Jun 27, 2019 19:19:10 GMT -7
I have them on a few pedals to help differentiate between footswitches. One is on a gain pedal that has a push and hold function to change the clipping styles between Klon, TS, and Plexi. Just helps make sure I'm changing the settings instead of my foot slipping off and turning the pedal off. And another is on a reverb pedal that has two footswitches close together (on/off and pad/hold function) and I use it to elevate the one switch with the pad hold function so I don't accidentally hit the other switch turning the pedal off. They are great for little pragmatic stuff like that, but totally unnecessary to have on every pedal.
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Post by zpilot on Jun 30, 2019 9:58:27 GMT -7
Great thread, I didn't know they existed. For about a buck each zpilot's solution rocks. I think I learned about these from randalp3000. Credit where credit is due. He has not posted on the forum lately. That is a shame because he had a lot of good info to offer.
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Post by doctorice on Jul 2, 2019 10:51:02 GMT -7
I bought these from Amazon and am returning them. They are nicely made and have three set screws. Problem is there are no rubber inserts -- they include a skinny nylon washer -- to help position this on the switch. You'd have to tighten the set screws a lot to keep the button in position, and it's highly likely it would come loose under gig conditions. I'm going to review some of the other options mentioned here.
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Post by zpilot on Jul 2, 2019 13:14:13 GMT -7
Maybe use a little threadlocker on the screw to keep them secure? It looks like they made them with the hole big enough that they will fit different sized switches.
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Post by doctorice on Jul 2, 2019 16:23:24 GMT -7
Maybe use a little threadlocker on the screw to keep them secure? It looks like they made them with the hole big enough that they will fit different sized switches. It wasn't the diameter of the hole in relation to that of the switch. It's the depth that didn't work. Without an insert and when the set screws are not locked in, the button is so tall that you can't engage the switch. An insert/spacer, sitting in the hole, would solve the problem, but I figured better to try another alternative than to spend time trying to fix a design flaw. Absent the (not provided) spacer, you'd have to tighten the screws a lot to try to make sure pressing the button didn't cause it to loosen up and become a hindrance rather than a help. I figured the needed amount of tightening would possibly put little dings in the switch top. With plenty of other choices on offer, I just said "Next!"
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Post by zpilot on Jul 2, 2019 18:15:38 GMT -7
Ah, I see. I might be inclined to use something I had on hand as the correct spacer (small washers) rather than deal with return shipping at that price, but then that is just me. I understand not wanting to mess with it.
I have gotten wary of products from Chinese companies that cannot at least get the language correct. How simple would it be to hire someone who could do that? I have purchased some really well engineered and built stuff lately from Asian suppliers with reasonably good instructions so I don't think it is too much to ask.
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Post by helmi on Jul 3, 2019 2:03:06 GMT -7
which one's did you buy Mike, the Barefoot buttons or the generic ones?
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Post by doctorice on Jul 3, 2019 5:27:28 GMT -7
which one's did you buy Mike, the Barefoot buttons or the generic ones? Generics, Martin. Otraki was the named supplier.
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Post by doctorice on Jul 3, 2019 5:30:56 GMT -7
Ah, I see. I might be inclined to use something I had on hand as the correct spacer (small washers) rather than deal with return shipping at that price, but then that is just me. I understand not wanting to mess with it. Yes, if I had had some appropriate material lying around I would have attempted to make it work. But here's a cool thing: Amazon has just started using Kohls as a way to return stuff. According to Amazon, Kohls will handle packaging, labeling and shipping for free. Obviously there must be a financial arrangement. I'm going to try it this week with these buttons.
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Post by zpilot on Jul 3, 2019 5:47:23 GMT -7
Ah, I see. I might be inclined to use something I had on hand as the correct spacer (small washers) rather than deal with return shipping at that price, but then that is just me. I understand not wanting to mess with it. Yes, if I had had some appropriate material lying around I would have attempted to make it work. But here's a cool thing: Amazon has just started using Kohls as a way to return stuff. According to Amazon, Kohls will handle packaging, labeling and shipping for free. Obviously there must be a financial arrangement. I'm going to try it this week with these buttons. Cool. Let us know how that works out. I have not returned a couple of things just because of the inconvenience. I will guess that you will have to walk to the back of the store to do the return. That way Kohls hopes you will make a purchase while traversing through the store. A basic retail technique.
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Post by 195db on Jul 3, 2019 12:15:26 GMT -7
I use Barefoot's on my Helix. They are all clear and the upper's are the tall version. I left them off the mode and patch up/down. The less chance of hitting those accidentally the better.
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Post by helmi on Jul 3, 2019 16:02:03 GMT -7
which one's did you buy Mike, the Barefoot buttons or the generic ones? Generics, Martin. Otraki was the named supplier. And did we learn a lesson from using the generic's, Mike? (lol)
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Post by goodez on Jul 3, 2019 16:20:54 GMT -7
I bought these from Amazon and am returning them. They are nicely made and have three set screws. Problem is there are no rubber inserts -- they include a skinny nylon washer -- to help position this on the switch. You'd have to tighten the set screws a lot to keep the button in position, and it's highly likely it would come loose under gig conditions. I'm going to review some of the other options mentioned here. The ones I posted do come with a rubber inserts and set screws. I ordered silver and think it replicates original foot switches/washers the best (aka subtle).
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jul 3, 2019 16:44:04 GMT -7
I bought a set of 9 of the ones from Amazon that Zpilot mentions, and they work well. They're a snug fit, and they seem like they'll hold up. Various colors included, $8.99 Amazon Prime free shipping. I recommend them, you can't go wrong for the money.
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Post by helmi on Jul 4, 2019 1:33:09 GMT -7
I bought these from Amazon and am returning them. They are nicely made and have three set screws. Problem is there are no rubber inserts -- they include a skinny nylon washer -- to help position this on the switch. You'd have to tighten the set screws a lot to keep the button in position, and it's highly likely it would come loose under gig conditions. I'm going to review some of the other options mentioned here. The ones I posted do come with a rubber inserts and set screws. I ordered silver and think it replicates original foot switches/washers the best (aka subtle). Those look like Lava mini elc cables on the big board, what are you using on the small one. that's quite a bit of change between those 2 boards. nice, top of the line stuff.
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Post by goodez on Jul 4, 2019 5:22:43 GMT -7
The ones I posted do come with a rubber inserts and set screws. I ordered silver and think it replicates original foot switches/washers the best (aka subtle). Those look like Lava mini elc cables on the big board, what are you using on the small one. that's quite a bit of change between those 2 boards. nice, top of the line stuff. Good eye lol. I’m running the lava patch cables on the big board and Mogami Gold patch cables on the small board. The Mogami seems to be better quality that I would prefer over the lava if it weren’t for the length restraints (choose wisely because that extra inch you thought you wouldn’t need may mean the difference from placing a pedal sideways or in a less than desirable location).
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Post by doctorice on Jul 4, 2019 7:28:08 GMT -7
^^^
Those Mogami Gold look quite similar to the ones Todd and Patty (PCNS) build. Probably too costly to have them shipped to you, goodez, but the PCNS is also very high quality.
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Post by goodez on Jul 4, 2019 10:16:10 GMT -7
^^^ Those Mogami Gold look quite similar to the ones Todd and Patty (PCNS) build. Probably too costly to have them shipped to you, goodez, but the PCNS is also very high quality. I run PCNS cables on my head/cab set ups. I need to pick up another cab in the future and will probably contact Todd for a Y-cable. Top quality product from good Michigan people 👍🏼
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Post by Rockerfeller on Sept 8, 2019 4:40:47 GMT -7
I bought these from Amazon and am returning them. They are nicely made and have three set screws. Problem is there are no rubber inserts -- they include a skinny nylon washer -- to help position this on the switch. You'd have to tighten the set screws a lot to keep the button in position, and it's highly likely it would come loose under gig conditions. I'm going to review some of the other options mentioned here. Based on this post, I bought three of these Barefoot Buttons. I like the idea and they solved a problem for me: turning harder to reach pedals on and off more accurately. And they DO solve that problem nicely. The problem I've found with them is they come loose and fall off under gig conditions. I've had it happen on all of them, except the one I got for the Tap tempo on my Diamond Tremolo. It happened again yesterday.
IF you have to tighten them up every gig, they are not worth the trouble. IF they stay tight and only require periodic attention, I'd keep them. I'm still undecided.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 9:52:15 GMT -7
I've got them on a couple pedals that have 2 buttons and the buttons are close. You don't need 'em on every pedal. Best for me is to use them as 'problem solvers'
I have the original Barefoot buttons and I ordered the correct size. They have never come loose.
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Post by Rockerfeller on Sept 8, 2019 10:34:27 GMT -7
I've got them on a couple pedals that have 2 buttons and the buttons are close. You don't need 'em on every pedal. Best for me is to use them as 'problem solvers' I have the original Barefoot buttons and I ordered the correct size. They have never come loose. I got the right size for my pedals. So it must be user error. I'm going to try them again and tighten them real tight.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 12:16:56 GMT -7
I've got them on a couple pedals that have 2 buttons and the buttons are close. You don't need 'em on every pedal. Best for me is to use them as 'problem solvers' I have the original Barefoot buttons and I ordered the correct size. They have never come loose. I got the right size for my pedals. So it must be user error. I'm going to try them again and tighten them real tight. If I remember correctly there are 3 set screws. You sorta need to 'balance them' If you start with one much tighter that one is going to loosen with use.
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Post by helmi on Sept 8, 2019 15:09:16 GMT -7
I got the right size for my pedals. So it must be user error. I'm going to try them again and tighten them real tight. If I remember correctly there are 3 set screws. You sorta need to 'balance them' If you start with one much tighter that one is going to loosen with use. EXACTLY. you need to tighten them evenly.
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Post by Rockerfeller on Sept 8, 2019 15:14:51 GMT -7
If I remember correctly there are 3 set screws. You sorta need to 'balance them' If you start with one much tighter that one is going to loosen with use. EXACTLY. you need to tighten them evenly. Well....that would explain it!
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