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Post by bigben55 on Mar 3, 2019 9:42:40 GMT -7
Because I haven't found one yet! I've played my 1x12 combo(or the 2x10 combo I had before that) in big bars, small bars, a college classroom, a giant outdoor amphitheater, at an outdoor campground covered shelter, a county fairground outdoors, various basements, fire department engine bays, and I'm probably forgetting some. I've played it miced thru the PA, and unmiced. Cranked plugged straight in, set to max clean headroom with pedals, Brake Lite on and off, you name it! I find with my band, BL on 2 clicks is "right." Not too loud, but gets over the drums fine. I have happily gigged it BL on 3, unhappily BL on 4.
I have a KILLER 1966 Fender Super Reverb, that sounds absolutely incredible. It hasn't left my basement in 2 years. I play it enough at home to keep the electrolytics from drying out, but I just cant see me having a legitimate NEED for it. I keep it thinking someday I'll have a huge gig or unmiced outdoor gig where I can wind it up, but then I realize the MAJORITY of the time, full volume/no BL on my Z28 is too loud! When am I ever gonna use the SR?
Anyone else holding on to huge amps you never use?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 10:28:23 GMT -7
It's a great amp. Wish I still had mine. Might have to go poke around on Reverb and see what's available...
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Post by "Z" Steve on Mar 3, 2019 12:01:07 GMT -7
I sold my Remedy early last year and I just sold my Z28 2 weeks ago for the same reasons. It's not that they were too loud, it was just not sensible for the gigs I was playing. So now I have a Cure and a Maz 8, and though my music room has more empty space now it's better than those amps and cabs collecting dust.
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Post by bigben55 on Mar 3, 2019 12:13:37 GMT -7
That's what I'm saying! It's crazy that a 22 watt 1x12 combo, in 2019, is now to be considered "the big amp!" That BFSR is SO much louder than the Z28, what am I ever gonna use IT for? I sold my Remedy early last year and I just sold my Z28 2 weeks ago for the same reasons. It's not that they were too loud, it was just not sensible for the gigs I was playing. So now I have a Cure and a Maz 8, and though my music room has more empty space now it's better than those amps and cabs collecting dust.
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Post by goodez on Mar 3, 2019 19:08:51 GMT -7
Brakelites/Airbrakes work wonders. I’ll never sell my Z28. Once in a while you see people sell off big bottles like the remedy, maz38, Db4 because they’re “way too loud for my needs” but when bedroom levels are needed at times with quads I enjoy utilizing the half power mode with a brakelite. Some claim that the tone isn’t comparable but I think it’s still glorious at all volumes.
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Post by daxkendall on Mar 7, 2019 14:20:55 GMT -7
Can you recommend amp and brake settings? I’m a recent z28 owner. I’m playing a medium size bar gig next weekend we play 90s rock covers (sublime, Pearl Jam). I get my overdrive from a blues driver and ocd. Want nice edge of breakup tone. I played a similar gig a month ago first with the amp and I think volume and bass at 9 and treble at 11, didn’t use brake lite. Main guitar is an LP but I’ll use a strat too. Any suggestions appreciated!
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Post by bigben55 on Mar 7, 2019 16:42:32 GMT -7
Depends on a lot....your speaker, your tubes(what's your PI, a 5751 or 12AX7), your guitar and how hot the pickups are. You said Les Paul and edge of breakup, so try BL on 2 clicks, V at 9:30-10, B at 9-10, T at 11-11:30. That's edge of breakup with my P90 tele. Generally, the higher the cl8ck on the BL, the more compression you get so subtract a tad of bass and add a tad of treble to compensate and vice versa.
Someone said, and they're 100% right, set the BL first, then tweak the amp!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 11:28:21 GMT -7
Off the top of my head for a medium club gig I'd say you want to get to B and T controls past noon a bit, set the V somewhere above 9:00, but then wherever it makes sense given room size and setup, and BL as few clicks as possible--1 or 2 are optimal, three and you're starting to strangle the amp a bit.
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Post by daxkendall on Mar 8, 2019 12:12:44 GMT -7
Thanks for the replies! Forgot to mention I’m running into a mess boogie thiele cab with a black widow celestial. No ideas what my tubes are. Going to try out these two suggested settings at rehearsal can’t wait!
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Post by bigben55 on Mar 8, 2019 14:29:35 GMT -7
I dont know if it's just me, but I've had 2 different Z28s running 5 different speakers over the years, and regardless of guitar choice my Z28s treble knob ALWAYS gets set higher than its bass knob. IMO, it's not a bright amp.
As for tubes, the main choice to make is that PI. 5751 or 12AX7. I've run both. Z28s shipped with 5751s for years, then with Tung Sol Ri 12AX7s til the amp got discontinued. The difference isnt MASSIVE, but it's there. 5751s keep it cleaner, a little longer while the 12AX7 drives it a little harder. But ACTUAL 5751 tubes are hard to find. Newer mfg'ed 5751s are just 12AX7s that tested lower gain. If you want to experiment, pony up for a NOS JAN GE 5751. AboutT $50. Will last literally forever.
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