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Post by fallingstarsusa on Jan 28, 2019 8:40:41 GMT -7
Anyone using either of these pedals? Thoughts? Also curious if anyone is using both of them, and if so, what you're using them for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 9:30:57 GMT -7
I think Mike/doctorice is pretty happy with his Sunset--he may chime in here. I had the Sunset briefly--it's a very good pedal but I have a few others that do pretty much the same thing that I like better.
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Post by zpilot on Jan 28, 2019 10:33:38 GMT -7
I had a Riverside. For me it worked best for heavy overdrive stuff. Especially since it has a good noise gate and noise is usually a problem with higher gain. I just sold it because I was downsizing. It is the one doctorice has now.
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Post by doctorice on Jan 28, 2019 11:23:17 GMT -7
^^^
Jon's correct. I have both, and both were on my board until very recently. My set up was Sunset --> compressor --> Riverside. The rationale was that the Sunset was OD/boost and the Riverside was like adding a couple "channels" to the amp. The comp in between allowed me to have the option of comp before or comp after drive. The amp generally is set for mild breakup when the guitar is full on.
Both pedals have lots of tones available. I mainly use low to medium gain settings when gigging, but it's fun to have much more aggressive gain on tap. On the Sunset, my usual set up was to have the A side set up as tube screamer / SRV style and the B side on one of the gain options.
I just took the Sunset off, replacing it with a JHS AT+. The latter has a wide range of gain and includes a separate boost, so it covers what I was doing with the Sunset. I did not do an a/b test; I just enjoy changing things up every now and then.
I usually keep my OD pedals, and that's the plan here. Sunset likely to come back or find its way onto another board.
My opinion -- I stress "opinion" -- is that the Riverside does a fine job of being "amp like" but it's not exactly like plugging into a good tube amp. The Sunset is very good tonally, is straightforward to set up, and is hard to beat with its "six-in-one, two-at-a time" flexibility.
Added: thanks again to zpilot for the Riverside!
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Post by zpilot on Jan 28, 2019 11:48:05 GMT -7
I have thought, after owning a Riverside, that having it and a Sunset on the same board would give a player ANY dirt option he could need. It could be the basis for a very versatile yet small board.
Since selling the Riverside I have acquired a JHS AT. It is not nearly as versatile as the Riverside but it does the one sound I was after a little better.
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Post by doctorice on Jan 28, 2019 12:53:42 GMT -7
Since selling the Riverside I have acquired a JHS AT. It is not nearly as versatile as the Riverside but it does the one sound I was after a little better. I am very impressed with the AT+. I think the only difference from the AT is the added independent boost circuit.
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Post by baldeagle on Feb 16, 2019 1:37:31 GMT -7
I had the Riverside on my board for a couple of months. Despite the be analog front end, it sounded digital to me. As stated above, it does not sound like a good tube amp.
I also did not like that you can only save 1 setting. You dial in a setting you like and save it. Then, you dial in another setting, say a higher gain tone. You can't save the second setting. So you're playing on #2, then click back to your saved setting, then click back to number 2, you actually have to re-dial in setting 2. Not useful in a live setting.
The only thing I liked - and I REALLY liked, was the noise gate feature.
I replaced it with a Keeley D&M drive, from Dan & Mick of That Pedal Show. It is actually a 3 channel pedal:
The Mick side is their take on a Klon with some tweaks. It is a bit less mid-spikey, and it has more gain available.
The Dan side is the drive side, and sounds closest to an OCD, but again not an exact copy.
Each side on its own has plenty of pleasing tone options for me.
The 3rd channel comes from the ability to stack the drives and configure the order: boost into drive or vice-versa. The order definitely makes a difference. You flip a toggle to define the order, and click both stomp switches on to engage.
Each side has its own Gain, Tone and Level controls.
It is very easy to use in a live setting and sounds great. I am very happy with the D&M.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 16, 2019 6:09:22 GMT -7
I also did not like that you can only save 1 setting. You dial in a setting you like and save it. Then, you dial in another setting, say a higher gain tone. You can't save the second setting. So you're playing on #2, then click back to your saved setting, then click back to number 2, you actually have to re-dial in setting 2. Not useful in a live setting. Perhaps I'm misreading your comment, but this has not been my experience. When I go to the saved "favorite" setting, whatever was dialed in on the pedal is still there when the favorite switch is disengaged. I think Strymon has some new add-on that allows more settings to be saved and recalled.
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Post by zpilot on Feb 16, 2019 7:16:05 GMT -7
Yes. Wherever the knobs are currently, is the setting you get when not switched to "favorite". Pretty straightforward.
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