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Post by ss "Shane" on May 31, 2018 18:39:35 GMT -7
I’m closer now than I’ve ever been to ordering up the Z-wreck but here is what I need to know first.
Since this is such a monster of an amp does it breath too heavily (floor noise) at lower volumes? The only Z I’ve owned with a cut knob was the Maz 18R and the only thing I never liked about it was the wind like noise when turned on low or higher volumes. If I remember correctly it was from the cut knob.
I’m playing the Ghia and Therapy at the moment and these amps are dead silent when on. Can someone compare the zwreck to these amps as far as floor noise? Does the Wreck have a loud cut knob?
So we are all on the same page, I’m calling floor noise what to me sounds like a little bit of wind blowing into a microphone.
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Post by purpletele on May 31, 2018 19:28:29 GMT -7
Shane,
I had to look the other day to see if my use of the term Noise Floor was correct. Indeed the term for amp noise is Noise Floor, so if I'm trying to learn English that doesn't make sense.
I just happen to go through the terminology update the other day.
I don't have a Wreck but I am guessing the Noise Floor is low like all of the Z Amps.
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Post by ss "Shane" on May 31, 2018 19:47:49 GMT -7
Noise Floor...got it 👍🏻
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Post by Rockerfeller on May 31, 2018 19:56:13 GMT -7
Shane, I own the Z wreck and gigged it extensively. I never thought it was noisy, but to be fair I was always playing on a stage with it and cranking it up.
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Post by sharkboy on Jun 1, 2018 5:31:16 GMT -7
Noise floor isn’t much of an issue. I think if you attenuate heavily, that and adding “tone sponginess” could be more of an issue.
FYI: I attenuate heavily, but don’t mind some of the added “sponginess.”
The marks against the Wreck are just how loud it wants to be before distortion. The pluses are too numerous to mention, but there is truly nothing that is quite as satisfying, when you’re allowed to open it up at the edge of distortion, but the Route 66 is close. That place where the strings, the wood of the guitar, the pickups and the amp are all at the edge of control make new sounds out of every guitar you put through it (though it’s even more amazing with a single coil- the Route 66 is a hair more amazing with a humbucker.)
Protect your hearing and record it loud. Live, I’d use attenuation and try to not kill the vocalist- you know, unless that’s what you’re going for.
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Post by markT on Jun 3, 2018 17:05:03 GMT -7
The Z Wreck has no more "noise floor" than any other Z amp.....and that ain't much!
The Z Wreck with an AirBrake/BrakeLite will get you from living room volumes to concert stage volumes.....no problems.
The 1-12 combo has less perceived volume than a head and 2-12 cab.
You've been worried about this way too long. Just do it!
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jun 3, 2018 18:04:37 GMT -7
Mine is remarkably quiet for such a gainy amp. I played mine at church this morning and the music director wants the guitar amps at 85 to 93 dB. The Wreck wants to do 100 when it's on standby (if you want to have guitar control of your drive and good dynamic range). I just got a Power Station last week and this was gig one for it. Love that thing! It kept all the goodies intact and was great. Don't get me wrong, I could have turned the Wreck down to 9:00 or so and been okay. Maybe 8:30? But it worked out great.
I think the Z-Wreck is the finest guitar amplifier I've ever played, and that's saying a lot of amps!
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Post by ss "Shane" on Jun 4, 2018 13:55:26 GMT -7
The Z Wreck has no more "noise floor" than any other Z amp.....and that ain't much! The Z Wreck with an AirBrake/BrakeLite will get you from living room volumes to concert stage volumes.....no problems. The 1-12 combo has less perceived volume than a head and 2-12 cab. You've been worried about this way too long. Just do it! LoL! Yes I know I’ve been on the fence about the wreck for a LONG time. I always have second thoughts regarding volume or is this thing too loud. The combo version would be the way I’d go (53 advertised lbs seem a lot for a “lite” cab) but I’ve never let weight hold me back from tone. I’ve been reading just about every thread and review on the wreck and the common denominator is the word “loud”, sometimes “unusable”. My second Crook will be coming soon and I sure would love the wreck tone to go with it.
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Post by KeithA on Jun 4, 2018 14:24:48 GMT -7
The Z Wreck has no more "noise floor" than any other Z amp.....and that ain't much! The Z Wreck with an AirBrake/BrakeLite will get you from living room volumes to concert stage volumes.....no problems. The 1-12 combo has less perceived volume than a head and 2-12 cab. You've been worried about this way too long. Just do it! (53 advertised lbs seem a lot for a “lite” cab) Lol....I have a head. I'd say 52 lbs are in the transformers ! There is some serious iron in a Z-Wreck.
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