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Post by Rhythmark on May 16, 2018 8:27:42 GMT -7
I got a new Fender professional telecaster- Plays nice, neck is great. Problem I’m having is there is not belly cut- So that upper back edge is literally pressing on my ribs and feels horrible. I’ve already put the guitar up for sale- after 3 hours with it.
Do all you guys with slab teles have them low slung so it’s not in rib territory? That thing is very uncomfortable! I think I’m just going to build my own Tele probably from warmoth- With a belly or in my case rib cut!
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Post by digs57 on May 16, 2018 8:37:13 GMT -7
Sorry to hear that...I wear mine quite high up (all guitars)...not for ribs but for wrist comfort...I have xtra padding which helps a little I suppose...
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Post by Rhythmark on May 16, 2018 9:24:03 GMT -7
Sorry to hear that...I wear mine quite high up (all guitars)...not for ribs but for wrist comfort...I have xtra padding which helps a little I suppose... I may try it again and adjust it higher or lower To see what may work. But where it sits now is not doable.
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Post by John on May 16, 2018 9:35:34 GMT -7
Yeah..you've GOT to lower it so it's not hitting the rib cage. That's just the way it is. Unless you're planning on sitting down when you play. It doesn't have to be Jimmy Page "down by your ankles"...but enough that it's comfortable.
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Post by BritInvasion on May 16, 2018 10:18:06 GMT -7
That's the main reason Leo Fender did the back contour on Stratocasters back in 1954. Player complaints.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 16, 2018 14:53:08 GMT -7
Seriously I’m a Strat player and basically have my guitars hanging in the same place- But this is hurting me! I’m going to lower it so it doesn’t hit the rib! But it’s still on the chopping block- actually someone is asking about it already. I’m just a contour man I guess! I may try out a G&l or a warmoth build-
Also thinking of noiseless pickups- I should have know better!
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 16, 2018 15:04:53 GMT -7
Is there a tele with a contour? I thought all tele’s were “slab.”
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Post by KeithA on May 16, 2018 16:10:43 GMT -7
Is there a tele with a contour? I thought all tele’s were “slab.” The Elite Series (previously Deluxe) have the contour. I have a '96 Tele Plus that has a rib contour. I even had Bill Crook put a rib contour in my Paisley T-style build.
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Post by j4gitr (John) on May 16, 2018 17:10:04 GMT -7
I have two G&L ASAT's, but they too are slabs. No belly cuts. I also play a G&L Legacy Heritage 335 style, a PRS , Les Paul and various acoustics. I venture to say that there is no universal position. However, I have positioned all of my guitars higher, as I find it closer to the seated position, and it just works. Before you take a hit for a dollar loss, play around with different positions. And give it some serious time to settle in. My $.02 FWIW.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 16, 2018 17:51:05 GMT -7
Is there a tele with a contour? I thought all tele’s were “slab.” The Elite Series (previously Deluxe) have the contour. I have a '96 Tele Plus that has a rib contour. I even had Bill Crook put a rib contour in my Paisley T-style build. Also the USA made teles before they changed to the professional series supposedly had contoured backs. Not sure when it started. I’m a big acoustic player and am fine with those. I’m going to try to lower and heighten it to find a better spot hopefully!
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Post by spike on May 16, 2018 18:31:31 GMT -7
Seriously I’m a Strat player and basically have my guitars hanging in the same place- But this is hurting me! I’m going to lower it so it doesn’t hit the rib! But it’s still on the chopping block- actually someone is asking about it already. I’m just a contour man I guess! I may try out a G&l or a warmoth build- Also thinking of noiseless pickups- I should have know better! My 2013 Telecaster Deluxe has a belly cut. It came with noiseless pickups but now has Lollar Special T's and a 4 way switch. It's a fantastic guitar and one of my favorites. Sounds great and I truly love the neck. I'll mention the neck twice just because I thinks it's that good. As KeithA said, they were discontinued and replaced by the Telecaster Elite even though it's about the same guitar. I really don't know if Elite truss rods are good, bad, or great, but they are a new way of doing it and I'd want to get some user feedback before I got one. I've played a few in stores (unplugged) and they felt and sounded really good. Maybe you could check out a new Elite and if you like it look for a used Deluxe. I was thinking of getting another so I looked and they are out there. A bunch of them had the noiseless pups switched out.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 19:27:06 GMT -7
Let’s see it!
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Post by "Z" Steve on May 16, 2018 20:54:51 GMT -7
A friend of mine just built a Tele and loaded those Greg Koch Fluence (sp?) noiseless pickups in it and he loves them.
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Post by KeithA on May 17, 2018 4:12:35 GMT -7
Seriously I’m a Strat player and basically have my guitars hanging in the same place- But this is hurting me! I’m going to lower it so it doesn’t hit the rib! But it’s still on the chopping block- actually someone is asking about it already. I’m just a contour man I guess! I may try out a G&l or a warmoth build- Also thinking of noiseless pickups- I should have know better! I really don't know if Elite truss rods are good, bad, or great, but they are a new way of doing it and I'd want to get some user feedback before I got one. Actually, the new truss rod setup is basically the same as has been used for years on Ernie ball Music Man guitar (like the Van Halen guitar). I have that truss rod setup on my Peavey Wolfgangs and I find it to be the best I have ever used. It's simple and easy to tweak. It takes a little time to get used to the look of it on a Strat but I'd take that setup over any other truss rod, if given the choice.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 17, 2018 6:33:07 GMT -7
Thanks for the suggestions! I lowered the Tele under my ribs- and it felt much better. I assume that’s where these are meant to sit- I tried it extra high too - just to try- but felt awkward. So low was the way to go- I played a few hours and my one last complaint it no forearm carve. My forearm was digging in on the edge as I picked- This neck and sound was there- ! But it definitely need contours! Back and forearm! I just don’t like the guitar pressing on me. Also I like my guitars to hang in the same area to feel right. And with this it’s just too low- So I’m either selling it or I may keep it and put the carves in myself and refinish it- I’m a carpenter so it wouldn’t be too rough- Probably just sell and check out one of those mentioned above ^^
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Post by spike on May 17, 2018 7:04:17 GMT -7
I really don't know if Elite truss rods are good, bad, or great, but they are a new way of doing it and I'd want to get some user feedback before I got one. Actually, the new truss rod setup is basically the same as has been used for years on Ernie ball Music Man guitar (like the Van Halen guitar). I have that truss rod setup on my Peavey Wolfgangs and I find it to be the best I have ever used. It's simple and easy to tweak. It takes a little time to get used to the look of it on a Strat but I'd take that setup over any other truss rod, if given the choice. Cool. Thanks for clearing up my misinformation. I watched a Fender promo video on the Elite Tele a year or so ago and the truss rod design was presented as something new and groundbreaking. New is not always better unfortunately and I remember thinking I'd want to investigate a bit before I bought one. Of course, the Fender guy in the video isn't going to say we took this idea from Music Man who have been using it successfully for years. Never played a Music Man guitar though I hear they are very good. Borrowed a 5 string Stingray for a weekend and it was very nice. Had it so briefly I can't even remember what kind of truss rod it had.
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Post by KeithA on May 17, 2018 8:12:25 GMT -7
Actually, the new truss rod setup is basically the same as has been used for years on Ernie ball Music Man guitar (like the Van Halen guitar). I have that truss rod setup on my Peavey Wolfgangs and I find it to be the best I have ever used. It's simple and easy to tweak. It takes a little time to get used to the look of it on a Strat but I'd take that setup over any other truss rod, if given the choice. Cool. Thanks for clearing up my misinformation. I watched a Fender promo video on the Elite Tele a year or so ago and the truss rod design was presented as something new and groundbreaking. New is not always better unfortunately and I remember thinking I'd want to investigate a bit before I bought one. Of course, the Fender guy in the video isn't going to say we took this idea from Music Man who have been using it successfully for years. Never played a Music Man guitar though I hear they are very good. Borrowed a 5 string Stingray for a weekend and it was very nice. Had it so briefly I can't even remember what kind of truss rod it had. Yeah, the Fender version is really the Peavey version (which was brought over to Peavey by Eddie Van Halen when he switched from Music Man to Peavey). It makes sense for Fender to try it on other guitars as Fender inherited it when Eddie moved his Wolfgang to Fender from Peavey!) Here's the Peavey Wolfgang with the truss rod adjust. It's fantastic. For the record, i still consider my Peavey Wolfgang the best constructed guitar I've ever owned.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 10:27:45 GMT -7
Here's where my tele hangs...of course, I have a little belly fat to keep it from digging into my ribs
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Post by Rhythmark on May 17, 2018 11:36:27 GMT -7
Here's where my tele hangs...of course, I have a little belly fat to keep it from digging into my ribs Looks good! Just under rib! My Tele looks the same! The truss rod thing my charvel- is just like that- But I think fender and charvel are the same company now-
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Post by Rhythmark on May 17, 2018 16:36:40 GMT -7
I don’t know how you guys do it? Unless I’m a bit hunched over I’m being assaulted by this beast! It’s crazy! I had a single cut from carvin but it was smooth all over. And played nice.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 17, 2018 20:51:51 GMT -7
Well this tele has a beautiful neck- I’ve still been playing it like mad- Cool guitar- I may just get used to it- Everything else about this guitar is great! Can’t stress enough how nice the neck is- Great player-
Teles are like a 2x12 with a neck ! Looks so cool! Same as Mark n In color-
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Post by Rockerfeller on May 17, 2018 20:52:15 GMT -7
A Tele is the perfect guitar. Don't give up on it. Work through it and join the club!
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Post by John on May 18, 2018 2:41:20 GMT -7
Play an hour standing up with a dreadnaught acoustic. Then switch to the tele....the tele will feel fine.
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Post by digs57 on May 18, 2018 8:22:24 GMT -7
Teles a different animal...youll might have to learn to like it a little/time and eventually it no big deal...
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Post by ss "Shane" on May 18, 2018 10:18:28 GMT -7
I started using Teles primarily in 2007 and haven’t felt good on any other guitar since then. Before using Teles I was a Strat guy from the beginning. Now when I play my Strats it just doesn’t feel normal.
Personally I don’t like the way the contour feels because it kind of tilts back where the pickups are almost making eye contact with me. I don’t like pickups looking me in the eye! I know of some guys here who love the contour and even order their custom (non-Fender) T styles with the contour so it’s really just personal preference.
My Teles don’t hang low or too high but definitely on my rib cage. Honestly this is the first I’ve heard of a problem like this. I have to play a Tele so if I were having the same problem I guess I’d eat lots of cheeseburgers to compensate for it. Good luck!
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Post by Rhythmark on May 18, 2018 17:56:21 GMT -7
Yeah I lost a bunch of weight and may be too thin! Just no meat on the ribs- I’m going to keep at it!
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Post by daveyk on May 21, 2018 22:52:23 GMT -7
I don't think I'd get rid of a guitar because of its lack of comfort, but then again, I haven't played a guitar that was so uncomfortable that it made me want to sell it, especially if it sounded nice. If it sounds good, i can get used to how it feels when slung. You know what they say, "Guitars are wood. They will never feel like the seats in your parents Volvo station wagon." Okay, okay, no one ever said that, but i understand what you're saying. If it's a pain to play, you're not having fun .
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Post by Rhythmark on May 23, 2018 20:12:17 GMT -7
I’ve been reading about carving contours into a tele- And by golly! There’s a bunch of guys with the same problem- Even Jeff Beck has a carved out tele from the 50s . I guess when you play with contours for 20 years - Flat guitars just get in the way- I noticed lots of tele players lean over there guitars- Which is what I have to do not to rub my forearm on the edge. If I keep this - it will be a life guitar cause it’s going to get carved!
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Post by purpletele on May 24, 2018 2:00:00 GMT -7
I played my tele to check it out.
I have a Warmoth chambered tele and I indeed had the tummy cut upon recommendation from the staff.
It's real comfy, so I guess it's a nice upgrade that I didn't think made that much difference.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 24, 2018 13:52:54 GMT -7
I don’t mean to come off as a sissy! I guess I just am! Lol.
I’ve read some guys that have contours on there guitars, say that it makes the guitar lean outward- but my guitars with contours never have done that - they just hang normal. But we are all different shapes and sizes, so it’s probably different for everyone!
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