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Post by mpa93 on Mar 19, 2018 7:25:18 GMT -7
Hey, just wondering if anyone is reducing their pedal board or gigging without pedals. I often plug straight in at rehearsal and the tone coming out of the Cure is incredible. Snark on the headstock, one cable. Loving the simplicity. I am debating using an ABY as I run two amps at shows (clean/dirty) or maybe just roll off the guitar volume but seriously thinking of trying a gig without the pedal board. Thoughts?
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Post by Russell B on Mar 19, 2018 7:57:40 GMT -7
I've been pedal free for a while with both my Cure and my fav Maz Jr. I've only taken a Tuner pedal (not plugged inline), but since I got a clip-on tuner, I've been REALLY pedal free. Now, since I have no band, I can continue to be pedal free!
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Post by Stephen on Mar 19, 2018 9:39:36 GMT -7
I was pedal free for a long time, but I joined a classic rock band and their sound dictated it. My main amp is a Z-Lux, but if I’m traveling light, a Cure or 110 Ghia with a Strymon Flint. I always use pedals at Church with a Maz 18.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 11:55:11 GMT -7
Mike, can you send me your Cure? You have my address...I need to know whether I can run without pedals or not
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Post by mpa93 on Mar 20, 2018 5:52:46 GMT -7
Mike, can you send me your Cure? You have my address...I need to know whether I can run without pedals or not It's on the way
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 6:22:02 GMT -7
Mike, can you send me your Cure? You have my address...I need to know whether I can run without pedals or not It's on the way Hahah! I'll pop by this summer when I am in your area.
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Post by mpa93 on Mar 20, 2018 6:56:40 GMT -7
It's on the way Hahah! I'll pop by this summer when I am in your area. Sounds good Mark!
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Post by BritInvasion on Mar 20, 2018 7:00:55 GMT -7
This has me wondering about the Cure. Just don't know if I could let go of my Maz18 NR.
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Post by Paul (TRANE) on Mar 20, 2018 7:38:38 GMT -7
I own lots of pedals, but try to go with a simple set up live. For gigs I would always go with Wah, Tuner, and Decimator II noise reduction pedal. The less stuff I run live the less chance of issues pooping up. OD would be from amp and guitar volume changes.
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Post by Snare227 on Mar 26, 2018 6:29:39 GMT -7
I used to gig with a two channel amp with reverb. Being in a three piece band, I felt I needed a bit more flexibility and variety. If I were in a larger band and had a more narrow frequency range to fill, I may be able to go back... but I'd still want some delay at the very least. Though my Z sounds great wound up, some gigs require a lower stage volume and I'm able to get a lot of great flavor by pushing the front end without the required decibels of a hot amp. Not a direct replacement for tube saturation and air movement from the cones, but a happy compromise.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Mar 26, 2018 8:40:12 GMT -7
I’d love to be able to go straight to the amp, but the bands I’ve played in cover such a wide variety of material I can’t just go with one tone (regardless of how awesome that one tone is).
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Post by sharkboy on Mar 28, 2018 16:25:08 GMT -7
I gigged for years without pedals, but I typically had two amps. This actually worked well- especially when playing a Rickenbacker with the stereo out. I could quite easily have two or three sounds from the distorted amp and maintained a clean sound from the clean amp.
I have lots of pedals and would consider using them on gigs, but their usage would have to be driven by need. Case in point: I have had a Clyde Deluxe for a couple of years, but it is still in search of a song. I almost have to write material for the pedals I have.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 5:12:18 GMT -7
I play with a fair amount of gain and I like a bit of background delay, so going commando would be challenging for me. But--I just bought a Vintage Sound Tweed 15--5Y3 circuit with some great tweaks--and that little monster is a ton of fun going straight in. It's got me thinking blues jam, at the very least, if not a whole gig.
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Post by Rockerfeller on Mar 30, 2018 5:42:12 GMT -7
With my Wreck, Z-Lux or Remedy, I don't need any dirt pedals on the board, and I have had them all off for about a year. But I have to have the some delay, tremolo and verb if the amp doesn't have it, and a compressor for country stuff.
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Post by Maddog on Mar 30, 2018 6:37:00 GMT -7
I'm a pedal junkie.... I've become psychologically dependent upon the ability to have my guitar sounding like it's deep in The Venture's dripping cave, pulsating like a wild heartbeat, buzzing like Link Wray, imitating a lovely cello, doubling its own octave, screaming like John Lord's B3, or crying like Jimi's baby..... I'd love to go commando too for simplicity's sake, but I'm hopelessly (and umbilically) tethered to the "mother board"....Just the mention of the word "Strymon," and I get weak in the knees...
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Post by LT on Mar 30, 2018 8:16:06 GMT -7
I went sans pedals when I was in a blues-rock band. Back then I had a Mesa Nomad and only used the middle channel and my GV control. Now however, I need more versatility so I do use pedals. I will however remove any pedal that I don't use fairly regularly. The ones that fall into that category are delay, trem, extra OD's and verb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 9:48:51 GMT -7
I'm a pedal junkie.... I've become psychologically dependent upon the ability to have my guitar sounding like it's deep in The Venture's dripping cave, pulsating like a wild heartbeat, buzzing like Link Wray, imitating a lovely cello, doubling its own octave, screaming like John Lord's B3, or crying like Jimi's baby..... I'd love to go commando too for simplicity's sake, but I'm hopelessly (and umbilically) tethered to the "mother board"....Just the mention of the word "Strymon," and I get weak in the knees... Post a pic of your board sometime, Lee. I wanna see what you got goin on.
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Post by Maddog on Mar 30, 2018 9:52:24 GMT -7
I'm a pedal junkie.... I've become psychologically dependent upon the ability to have my guitar sounding like it's deep in The Venture's dripping cave, pulsating like a wild heartbeat, buzzing like Link Wray, imitating a lovely cello, doubling its own octave, screaming like John Lord's B3, or crying like Jimi's baby..... I'd love to go commando too for simplicity's sake, but I'm hopelessly (and umbilically) tethered to the "mother board"....Just the mention of the word "Strymon," and I get weak in the knees... Post a pic of your board sometime, Lee. I wanna see what you got goin on. Will do, Jon.... I'm currently in the process of totally re-building it....(an on-going process I might add).....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 10:01:52 GMT -7
Post a pic of your board sometime, Lee. I wanna see what you got goin on. Will do, Jon.... I'm currently in the process of totally re-building it....(an on-going process I might add)..... I hear you. I'm pretty much permanently engaged in that process myself. I just put together a 1-input, 2-output mini board for both acoustic and electric. I have officially done gone crazy.
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Post by GuitarZ on Mar 30, 2018 10:07:18 GMT -7
I've been 'straight in' for most of my playing career with a few stints with pedals. Somehow, it always worked for me, and/or, the other band mates were good with my sound. My one detour was when I joined my wife in a Holiday Inn Lounge band. There I was with my shag haircut, Gold Top Les Paul, and 50 watt Marshall. I eventually added my Ampeg Gemini to the mix as my 'clean' sound with a amp switching pedal. Maybe I should have used pedals since that career path didn't last too long. (Thankfully) And, I'm glad there aren't any pictures from that stint. To this day when I hear "Celebration" at a wedding, I get shivers since that was the band name. Perfect!
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Post by The Bad Poodle Experience on Mar 30, 2018 14:30:50 GMT -7
I went mostly straight in for the first 10 years with my Maz 38 and with the ghia, straight in is do-able but the new band gives me lot of opportunity to add color and texture and led me to assemble my first ever board.
I think the music has to dictate the set-up.
but, straight in with a Dr. Z amp should be no problem-o and sound a-ok-o.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 31, 2018 9:43:34 GMT -7
I like the purity of a guitar-cable-amp setup, but I need the variety and control that my pedalboard provides me. Set up right, you can get real close to a straight-in signal.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Mar 31, 2018 14:20:48 GMT -7
I use a Lehle 1@3 switcher which can switch between 3 amps, or between 2 amps with the 3rd output being an effects loop for the “B” output. This allows you to run straight to amps A and B totally unaffected, and to add your pedals to the B amp when you want. I’ve used it both ways, and currently have it switching between 3 amps. It’s an awesome device, built like a tank (the actual switches are isolated from the foot buttons so you can literally jump on the buttons without damaging the circuit). Not the cheapest A/B out there but heirloom quality and great flexibility. lehle.com/EN/Lehle-1at3-SGoSI have an older one without SGoS feature.
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Post by GuitarZ on Mar 31, 2018 14:32:09 GMT -7
That switcher I used back in the 80's was about as basic and cheap as you could get. That was back when you could only buy what was in your local store if you wanted something quick. Although, I don't remember any popping, but I'm thinking I was just lucky versus it being a good design.
My only other comment on pedals is that they make me think while playing. Maybe it's because I'm not used to them. Plus, I'm not great at dialing them in. I dig the sound of others when I hear them with pedals. Just don't dig my sound.
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Post by zpilot on Mar 31, 2018 23:25:45 GMT -7
I use a Lehle 1@3 switcher which can switch between 3 amps, or between 2 amps with the 3rd output being an effects loop for the “B” output. This allows you to run straight to amps A and B totally unaffected, and to add your pedals to the B amp when you want. I’ve used it both ways, and currently have it switching between 3 amps. It’s an awesome device, built like a tank (the actual switches are isolated from the foot buttons so you can literally jump on the buttons without damaging the circuit). Not the cheapest A/B out there but heirloom quality and great flexibility. lehle.com/EN/Lehle-1at3-SGoSI have an older one without SGoS feature. I've got one of those but I'm not using it currently. It is a sneaky cool switcher with that loop. Mine is an old one too.
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Post by Faze on Mar 31, 2018 23:54:03 GMT -7
I went to s smaller board as well. Just a fuzz overdrive boost and a delay. I may get a vibe pedal. I been going straight into my Vibro King lately with no effects just the reverb on the Vibro King. Sometimes it seems like you get the best tone just plugging straight in with no effects. When I had the Z-Lux I gigged straight into it most the time as well. If you use your guitar volume and tone knobs a lot to get your different tones plugging straight in is a great way to really get the feel of the amp and your guitar.
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Post by heynewguy (Ol’ Bill) on Apr 1, 2018 4:23:17 GMT -7
No pedals with my Blues Band with the Maz 8 and Z Lux. Just roll the volume and tone up or down.
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Post by gibsonguitar1988 on Aug 17, 2018 2:44:14 GMT -7
Nah, I'm too deep in the well to think about getting out at this point. I love pedals. They are a huge part of my enjoyment of guitar and I love buying them and playing through different pedals.
Oh sure, I could - but nowadays it's "do I want to" and the answer is always no.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Aug 17, 2018 5:44:04 GMT -7
No pedals? For about the last 6 months I've just been running my guitars straight into the Z-28 and adjusting V-T-B to taste ....
That said, I kept both my Flying Dragon pedals; a Draconis; a PBJ Delay (Danelectro); and, a an old MXR Dyna Comp ..... everything else was purged
It's not that I didn't want the pedals or didn't like 'em ..... just I had one of those moments where I starting cleaning a corner of the guitar room and divided everything into a couple of piles - need it as still using and don't need it and aint used it forever and a day ....... interesting experience to say the least
In the future, I do anticipate using pedals for a coupla songs/sounds/situations ..... my shopping list: Chorus/Flange/Dirtbox
cheers always
Joel
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Post by Paul (TRANE) on Aug 17, 2018 6:13:28 GMT -7
I have a board. Brought it to thrust gig with my new band. I used f the tuner and wah. Kind of funny.
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