I'm a proud owner of a Remedy MV model with which I had some trouble bonding at the beginning but man, after I "figured it out" it is super awesome amp. Love it! Running it through Dr. Z Z-Best with V30 & G12H30..which now when they're broken in are great, but still I'm tempted to try creambacks or greenbacks one day just to see where this would take me.. Enough with the chatter..
Recently V1 preamp tube failed (JJ ECC83S) and I've substituted it by some old 12AX7 (Groove Tubes - old spare I've got from my Twin Reverb) I found laying around. Now I would like to change all of my preamp tubes (currently V1 = Groove Tube 12AX7, V2 = JJ ECC83S & possibly V3 = TungSol 12AX7) as I do not know in what condition are the other tubes (I've bought the amp second hand).
What are your recommendations which tubes should I put in? Should I just go with the standard, recommended V1: JJ ECC83S, V2: JJ ECC83S, V3: Tung Sol 12AX7 OR is there any other good substitution for JJ's (& why that is)? I'd maybe like preamp breakup to be little less "fizzy" and more creamy/smooth..
Also when looking at the tube dealer offers I see that they have multiple options for the same e.g. JJ ECC83S.. there is "JJ ECC83S Balanced Double Triode" and just ordinary "JJ ECC83S" which is half the price of the balanced one and also "JJ ECC83S V1".. What is the difference here? Which one should I buy and why one over the other?
Sometimes you can tell the difference when changing preamp tubes...sometimes you can't. Personally, if you're happy with the tone, I'd just by a few JJ's for spares. Preamp tubes can last decades. They don't need to be changed like power tubes.
If you want less fizzy...I'd suggest changing your speakers. If you want less volume while you're at it...both creambacks and greenback won't be as loud for the same amount of amp power. (The difference will be noticeable) Greenbacks are cheaper and much easier to find used.
And if you REALLY want to cut back on fizzies....a pair of these:
> And welcome to the forum. And I have to ask...are you playing humbuckers or single coils?
Tnx! Well, I've been playing only humbuckers for the last few years..but just few weeks ago I picked up my old Strat which I've not been using for probably at last 5 years and plugged it into Remedy and it just blew my mind..great sound! so I'll be playing it whole lotta more from now on
> Personally, if you're happy with the tone, I'd just by a few JJ's for spares. Preamp tubes can last decades. They don't need to be changed like power tubes.
Yes, I know but there is always a "what if" question... What if it would sound "better" with some other tubes.. I got one advice from Dr. Z support: "Try a Chinese 12AX7 or JJ ECC83 in V3, the Tung Sol can have a glassy harder high end."
> If you want less fizzy...I'd suggest changing your speakers.
Will see.. I think speaker are still breaking in (as I've bought cab new) so I'll give them time to settle down. Changing speakers is not such straight forward as changing tubes + more expensive..but yes, it definitely has higher impact on the sound.
My personal recommendation for preamp tubes would be whatever Dr Z recommends. He literally spends hours and hours trying different tubes in each of his amps to get the best tone he can from regulation production or highly available NOS tubes. He does this so we don't have to sacrifice our tone when we replace our tubes because a NOS tube is no longer available.
John has this right, speaker choices will give you far greater difference in tone that a tube will.
Also, there is nothing sweeter than a well broken in set of speakers in a Zbest. Doc has one in his shop that is magical and its because those speaker are so well broken in. Keep pushing those speakers, they will give up the goods and you may find your fizzy goes away.
my 2 cents, God bless, Todd
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Yes, I know but there is always a "what if" question... What if it would sound "better" with some other tubes..
The "What if" question/pursuit can be a bottomless hole in the ground where you can throw never ending amounts of money and time if you're not careful.
I've met many people over the years...real guitar/amp geeks who get excited at the smallest details. Details that matter to NO ONE except the them. And far too often, when you finally hear them play, they're not very good. They should spend more time practicing and less time focusing on gear. Get a good guitar, get a decent amp, and play. Quit worrying about what chip is in your overdrive pedal...just play.
Sorry, I don't know anything about you...you could be a fine player. You're a new member here and I didn't mean to unload on you with my 'angry middle aged guy rant'. ha ha (I think the other guys are used to it!)
If your Z-best is new...yes, you're going to need to blast those speakers for a few months to break them in. (V30's sound like crap when new) I used to take new speakers out of the cabinet, wrap them in a sleeping bag, hook them up to my pa head and run bass/drum loops through them for days. That REALLY helped.
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