I picked up a used M12 about a month ago and I am pleasantly surprised to say that this may be the ideal amp for my situation (play at home - lots of pedal use, especially for gain. Styles range from traditional blues styled rock to more post-rock/metal).
Since I am redoing my amp setup entirely, I have made plans to purchase another amp sometime in the future to run in stereo with the M12. Since the M12 matches my needs so well, I'm tempted to just get another one and call it a day. But I also think that may be too 'easy' and that there could be pay off to getting a different amp in the a similar power range (for volume reasons, I don't want to go pass 15 watts).
Main question: curious if any M12 users here have found another amp (Dr Z or other) that pairs well with the M12 in stereo, especially as a pedal platform. Since I would be running the same array of mid to high gain/fuzz pedals in both, I imagine its best to find an amp with the similar style of headroom/power/gain structure.
I have been looking as some of the Fender Princetons as an option (particularly the '68 Custom) - just wished they had a 12" speaker since that's what I'm running the M12 through. I'm curious to hear everyone's suggestions!
Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Dec 22, 2017 11:13:27 GMT -7
Don't own an M12, but I have played one a few times. I'd go Monza. Your pedals will hit the Monza's higher gain different than the M12, but it will give you a more complex sound. Running two amps in stereo that are essentially the same doesn't do anything for me. Having two amps that are different, especially one that is cleaner and one that is dirtier, and then finding pedal settings that hit each amp differently is more fun. You could even split your signal before your pedals and let the pedals affect one of the amps, I'd go M12, and then let the other do it's thing.
Personally, I'd say just use the one M12 and spend the money on other useful things, like beer and pizza.
But if I HAD to pick another amp...I'd choose a Ghia or possibly the new Z-plus.
All Doc's amps are great, but the Monza has never been my cup of tea. There are lots of people who like it. So be clear, it's a great amp, but we're talking about personal taste and musical styles. (A corvette is a great car, but I'd never buy one)
Now that I've had a few seconds to think about it. I'd go with the Z-plus. (But my original position stands: Just use the M12)
Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on Dec 23, 2017 11:31:53 GMT -7
So let's get this right...... - You have an M12 and a bunch of fx. - You only play at home. - You're looking for another Z amp to make a stereo rig. Conclusion: Yep, you're hooked....and you're in the right place. We all are!
My take; What about a Cure? Great Z amp (I may be biased....).
Z Cure...In da house. The Blondes: Z Carmen Ghia 1 x 10 RF Z MAZ Jr NR Head with `Harvey` valance. Z Galaxie Head (Ch2 M/Vol) with 'Harvey' valance. Z 2x10 convertible Cab Studioslips Clamshells!! Z Brake Lite Z-Drive
Some `other`amps and a was at too many guitars (18 at the last count).
I like the Z Plus Idea, the demos sound amazing. Considering a Ghia - they're higher wattage but break up earlier, so there's that. Also considered a Z-28; similar tube topography but a different sound.
I've been thinking about the Princeton route, too. Maybe the mix of a 10 & a 12 will get you there? Otherwise maybe look at a used Deluxe Reverb Reissue?
Almost forgot - don't overlook the Maz 18. That's pretty much the touchstone for the Z sound.
MAZ 8 is an excellent 2nd amp in a dual/stereo rig. Many, many tonal options and the fact that it's not too loud is a big help. That 2nd amp adds to the sound. It doesn't need to be matched volume wise to get the depth and width of a dual/stereo rig.
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