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Post by nicholas on Jun 15, 2017 20:12:36 GMT -7
What is the most underrated guitar speaker?
I have to say the Celestion G12T-75. It doesn't get much love. Nothing fancy. But it sounds so good. Particularly 4 of them in closed back cab.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Jun 15, 2017 20:34:43 GMT -7
Jensen Mod 70 watter. Great all around versatile speaker. Works with a wide variety of amps.
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Post by zpilot on Jun 15, 2017 20:41:33 GMT -7
I recently got to service an amp with a Mojotone Greyhound in it. I had never heard of one so I plugged a couple of my amps into it and I was impressed. I don't hear much about Mojotone speakers but in general I've always liked the ones I've had a chance to play through.
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Post by Ridgeback on Jun 15, 2017 21:06:38 GMT -7
Jensen C12K.
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Post by Maddog on Jun 15, 2017 22:38:52 GMT -7
Eminence Legend 1258
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Post by John on Jun 16, 2017 14:12:07 GMT -7
I would like to know more about Jensens.
But even though there are lot of greenbacks out there, I think they're often overlooked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 16:43:06 GMT -7
Toss up between a WGS G12A and an Austin Speaker Works KTS70...
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Post by purpletele on Jun 16, 2017 19:46:50 GMT -7
Toss up between a WGS G12A and an Austin Speaker Works KTS70... Frank, I bought the 12 G/CS and I am trying it in the Therapy. It sounds good out of the box but it hasn't knocked me out. BTW, the EQ Bypass is cool. I feel like the Dr. Z speaker and the Eminence Allesandro are great speakers. I Also have a WGS ET 65 paired with the Gold. That is nice but the ET 65 seems dominant at lower volumes, maybe that is expected. I am loading a new ET 65 in my 18 watt Plexi, which has a Z12.
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Post by jesslm02 on Jun 16, 2017 21:15:18 GMT -7
Webers Speakers in general. Especially the silver bell.
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Post by zpilot on Jun 16, 2017 21:28:48 GMT -7
Webers Speakers in general. Especially the silver bell. I agree. I don't hear as much about them as I used to but they still make an incredibly diverse range considering the size of the company. If you don't like a speaker you've bought from them it's likely not their fault. You probably ordered the wrong specs.
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Post by texan2step on Jun 16, 2017 21:53:34 GMT -7
Webers Speakers in general. Especially the silver bell. You beat me to it! Couldn't agree more. I have a 30W Alnico Silver Bell and it's my top 3 favorite speaker. I think a lot of people lost interest thinking the company wasn't going to be the same after Ted passed. I too got very frustrated with them for a while and the lack of customer support but they've really made things a lot better lately. Now when you contact them, you hear back from them very quickly. And, the speakers are still VERY high quality. I cannot say enough about the Silver Bell! I don't think the Blue Dog sounds as good as a Celestion Blue, but the Silver Bell is incredible. I have both but hardly ever use the Blue Dog.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 9:07:33 GMT -7
Toss up between a WGS G12A and an Austin Speaker Works KTS70... Frank, I bought the 12 G/CS and I am trying it in the Therapy. It sounds good out of the box but it hasn't knocked me out. BTW, the EQ Bypass is cool. I feel like the Dr. Z speaker and the Eminence Allesandro are great speakers. I Also have a WGS ET 65 paired with the Gold. That is nice but the ET 65 seems dominant at lower volumes, maybe that is expected. I am loading a new ET 65 in my 18 watt Plexi, which has a Z12. The smooth cone 12GC/S is way different from the G12C or G12A. It lops off a lot of top end, which you don't need with the Therapy. That speaker would probably be better in a Maz or Z Lux. The G12A is expensive, but it's probably the best American voiced alnico speaker on the market right now. Much better than the Jensons, haven't tried any Jupiter speakers yet.
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Post by nicholas on Jun 17, 2017 14:22:17 GMT -7
Frank, I bought the 12 G/CS and I am trying it in the Therapy. It sounds good out of the box but it hasn't knocked me out. BTW, the EQ Bypass is cool. I feel like the Dr. Z speaker and the Eminence Allesandro are great speakers. I Also have a WGS ET 65 paired with the Gold. That is nice but the ET 65 seems dominant at lower volumes, maybe that is expected. I am loading a new ET 65 in my 18 watt Plexi, which has a Z12. The smooth cone 12GC/S is way different from the G12C or G12A. It lops off a lot of top end, which you don't need with the Therapy. That speaker would probably be better in a Maz or Z Lux. The G12A is expensive, but it's probably the best American voiced alnico speaker on the market right now. Much better than the Jensons, haven't tried any Jupiter speakers yet. I have the Warehouse 12GC/S in my JAZ (original Zlux). It's a perfect fit in there. I loved it in the Therapy too. Probably my favorite American speaker.
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Post by helmi on Jun 17, 2017 14:54:10 GMT -7
Webers Speakers in general. Especially the silver bell. I agree. I don't hear as much about them as I used to but they still make an incredibly diverse range considering the size of the company. If you don't like a speaker you've bought from them it's likely not their fault. You probably ordered the wrong specs. same here. i've owned 1 and heard a couple other weber speakers. all very nice. my personal fave is the celestion g10l-35 that marshall put in the 1965 4x10 cabs. i've owned 3 of them, and all sounded glorious!
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Post by Rik on Jun 18, 2017 13:41:09 GMT -7
The Docs 12 and 10's. I have yet to hear them sound nothing but great. Just my HMO
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Post by Ridgeback on Jun 18, 2017 14:08:05 GMT -7
Wow, I would never have thought Weber speakers would make an under rated list. They make many of my all time favorite after market models. I've owned a bunch of different Webers over the years. Special mention to the 12A150, 12F150, 10A125, and Silver Bell.
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Post by GT Roger on Jun 18, 2017 14:11:26 GMT -7
I tried a WGS Veteran 30. I was surprised how good the speaker is. It's close to a V-30, but smoother. Great price too. Probably an underrated speaker.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 15:02:48 GMT -7
Celestion G12H30. Very solid all around speaker. Sounds good with just about everything, mid-scoop in just the right spot, but you never see it on anybody's Greatest Speakers Evah list.
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Post by zpilot on Jun 18, 2017 17:10:20 GMT -7
The Docs 12 and 10's. I have yet to hear them sound nothing but great. Just my HMO Yeah, these are only going to get a mention from Z amp users. The rest of the guitar world will not even be aware of them for the most part. I've tried the 10's with other amps and liked them. Those and Ramrods are my favorite 10" speakers in most cabinets that use that size. With the exception of my Princeton Reverb which seems to like the Weber 10F150T. I love Celestion 12" Alnico Golds for clean but as an all around speaker the Z-12 works as well as anything else I've tried.
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Post by texan2step on Jun 19, 2017 7:01:02 GMT -7
Celestion G12H30. Very solid all around speaker. Sounds good with just about everything, mid-scoop in just the right spot, but you never see it on anybody's Greatest Speakers Evah list. In my experience I don't like the G12H30 as a standalone speaker. Having said that, I don't think there's another speaker that pairs so we'll with others. That speaker sounds amazing when paired with any other speaker I've paired it with. It doesn't seem to matter which other speaker I've used. Everytime I've removed the G12H30 from the mix, the combo doesn't sound as good. I can definitely agree that they are underrated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 5:40:13 GMT -7
It's not under-rated but I'd like to chime in with a little love for the Greenback.
I played up in Traverse City with @surreal McCoy and his band. Did my own set and the Bottle Rockets played. Tim had a whole bunch of Z's there including Rik's Z-Lux I noticed a little Ghia 1 x 10" there and new that would be the best one for me to get my sound.
This Ghia had a 10" Greenback in it. When we got to the theater only one other guy besides me wasn't asked to turn down and that was my friend Brian Henneman who was using a Pro Jr. The Greenback was a perfect volume reduction. No brake lite needed. No pedal tone needed. Great speaker!
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jun 21, 2017 6:12:08 GMT -7
It's not under-rated but I'd like to chime in with a little love for the Greenback. I played up in Traverse City with @surreal McCoy and his band. Did my own set and the Bottle Rockets played. Tim had a whole bunch of Z's there including Rik's Z-Lux I noticed a little Ghia 1 x 10" there and new that would be the best one for me to get my sound. This Ghia had a 10" Greenback in it. When we got to the theater only one other guy besides me wasn't asked to turn down and that was my friend Brian Henneman who was using a Pro Jr. The Greenback was a perfect volume reduction. No brake lite needed. No pedal tone needed. Great speaker! Yup, the G10 Greenback is a phenomenal 10" speaker--especially with the Ghia. Not super loud, but full of great "greenback" tone.
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Post by mpa93 on Jun 21, 2017 6:22:53 GMT -7
The Z-12 in my Cure sounds great. I have had a blue, gold, and a Cannabis Rex in previous amps. All great speakers, but the Z-12 really works for me.
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