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Post by zpilot on Jun 10, 2017 15:57:39 GMT -7
How does the ET65 compare to a Celestion G12H30? How about the Z-12? I'm not really interested in manufacturer's descriptions or Youtube reviews with crummy audio. I'd like to hear from forum members with actual experience with these speakers.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jun 10, 2017 19:33:26 GMT -7
They're pretty different, on account of the different magnet sizes and the bigger dustcap on the ET65.
G12H30 is very loud, strong bass and treble; oh, there's plenty of mids there, too, but (to me) it's the accented bass & highs that stand out with this one. Fantastic all-around speaker because of that, though--it's slightly "scooped" nature in this way makes it great for cleans and also great of high-gain. For example, it actually works great in a Fender Deluxe Reverb, even though it's a British/rock speaker. Go figure!
The ET65 on the other hand, is less "loud," and has a softer touch to the highs, I think. Less lows, but that's not a bad thing either. This one's great for almost-dirty-cleans up through classic-rock stuff. VERY much along the same line as a Creamback or just the classic old Greenback. I actually A/B'd one of these against my absolute best/favorite "greenback" type speaker--the Scumback M75 (65w). Know what? They were practically indistinguishable. Both amazing classic-greenback goodness.
IMO, these are both among the best guitar speakers.. at this level of tone, I can't say one is "better" but they are different. I know you said "no youtube"... BUT.. go watch the Pete Thorn video where he demo's the Scumback series. There's one where he does an "H75" and an "M75 in the same video--this is the very essence of the difference between the G12H30 (H75 equivalent) & ET65 (M75 equivalent).
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Post by wubberdubber on Jun 11, 2017 8:42:00 GMT -7
^^^That's a pretty accurate description. When I bought my first MAZ, it had the G12H30 as the stock speaker. I played the crap out of it for two years waiting for it to "break-in" and such, but just never was quite happy with it....there was a high-end thing that I just didn't like, especially with single-coils. I tried several speakers in there, but was so happy with the ET-65 that it's stayed in there for quite a while now, and I even bought another one when I saw it on sale on the WGS website to put in another non-Z amp. I know the Celestion has plenty of supporters on this forum, but I really like the ET-65 much better. It does have a bit of Greenback to it, but is like a tighter, more powerful version of that. I think the G12H30 has accentuated highs and lows, and the ET-65 has a more "balanced" spectrum over-all...I really like the nice smooth midrange of the ET.
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Post by digs57 on Jun 11, 2017 13:33:24 GMT -7
You guys said it all...thanks...for this too...I do have a et65 that im itching to plop in sumtin...burned it in with a blue jr...if some if these amp manfact. are using it...says it all to me.
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Post by John on Jun 11, 2017 17:06:00 GMT -7
The 65 has a big dust cover....which helps cut down on fizzy tones.
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Post by zpilot on Jun 11, 2017 18:30:13 GMT -7
I have a G12H30 that was pulled from my MAZ 18 (gone now) and I had one in a MAZ 38 so I am familiar with how they sound. That gives me a pretty good idea what to expect from a ET65. Thanks.
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Post by meanslide on Jun 13, 2017 7:49:53 GMT -7
I just made the swap from the Z12 in my Z-Lux to an ET65. It seems to smooth out some of the brightness on the top end and has a tighter bottom end, in this amp.*
I had a few different speakers laying around and decided to try them all out in my Z amps (a Z-Lux and a Carmen Ghia). I originally bought the ET65 to pair with the Ghia and didn't like it at all. The Z12 with the Ghia wasn't quite right either. (It's normally paired with a Tone Tub Red) The G12H30 with the Ghia was loud and tight, but still musical. On par with the TT but a little different (ceramic vs alnico).
*When I made the change in the Z-Lux, I didn't expect much because I hadn't really liked the ET65 with the Ghia. It immediately shined in that amp. The Z12 was great with it too, but as it's been described, it's 'American' voiced. The ET65 is essentially a Celestion G12-65, and it just seemed a little more balanced in the Z-Lux, for what ever reason. Kind of gave it a little of the (dare I say it) 'Robben Ford' tone. Tight and focused, but very musical. (I always play the Z-Lux in 40 watt mode).
So to sum it up, all three are great speakers. It's what amp they are paired with that sometimes makes one stand out as the 'one'. YMMV of course!
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jun 13, 2017 15:54:28 GMT -7
It looks like I'll have to try the ET in my Maz 18NR. Right now it's got a Z-12 in it, and it is a little bit peaky/bright on the top end. I know that in my '67 Deluxe Reverb the ET sounds great, and that amp was always screamin' bright.
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Post by gbowman on Jun 20, 2017 11:32:31 GMT -7
I too have an ET65 kicking around (that has been in a few amps - most notably a DRRI). I swapped out the G12h30 in my Maz jr recently and tried the WGS. It lasted there for about 20 minutes. It lacks the low clarity and high-end lustre of the Celestion and kills the "Voxiness". The WGS is a nicely balanced speaker, no doubt, and in other amps is killer, but somehow just "rounded off" the nice Maz corners...
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Post by cheycaster on Jul 1, 2017 13:20:32 GMT -7
The ET-65 has become my speaker of choice. I LOVE this speaker, wish I knew about them waaaay earlier on. chey
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Nov 20, 2017 19:08:39 GMT -7
Finally got around to swapping the ET-65 into my Maz 18NR. Nice change of pace. It's smoother on the treble side of things and that's always been a point where I've had to be careful setting my Maz up. I love changing things up every few months. Keeps it fresh!
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Post by digs57 on Nov 21, 2017 8:40:35 GMT -7
I too have an ET65 kicking around (that has been in a few amps - most notably a DRRI). I swapped out the G12h30 in my Maz jr recently and tried the WGS. It lasted there for about 20 minutes. It lacks the low clarity and high-end lustre of the Celestion and kills the "Voxiness". The WGS is a nicely balanced speaker, no doubt, and in other amps is killer, but somehow just "rounded off" the nice Maz corners... Youre previous post somewere gbowmen about the et 65 "live" just is smoother presentation is right to my ears too...g12h at lower levels kool...but found too steelie or something at a higher volume...wgs doesnt have the lowend....but the trade off's are worth it.
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Post by rialb78 on Jun 14, 2023 14:51:41 GMT -7
It looks like I'll have to try the ET in my Maz 18NR. Right now it's got a Z-12 in it, and it is a little bit peaky/bright on the top end. I know that in my '67 Deluxe Reverb the ET sounds great, and that amp was always screamin' bright. Put a celestion gold in your MAZ18 NR and you won't ever take it out!!
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Post by bubs42 on Jul 8, 2023 7:00:22 GMT -7
The ET65 is a dead ringer for a G12-65 Celestion. I have a vintage G1265 and was really blown away with the ET65.
I was at the last Nashville Gear Fest and WGS had a booth and was able to play speaker in a “Blind” test. Speakers in the same cab on a foot switcher. I chose with my ear the ET65. The one test they had me do was set me up with two speakers, one Alnico and one Ceramic. I didn’t know which was which and after I was supposed to pick the Alnico. They were so close and they knew that. One was the ET90 the other was the Blackhawk 100. They said “Do you know what the difference between them is?” , “No”, $150 😆
BTW Long live the Z12! DRZ should find someone that can deliver Z12’s it’s a fantastic Speaker with the Z28.
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Post by hosscartwheel14 on Jul 9, 2023 18:59:33 GMT -7
So..I have a DrZ 2x10 cab that I use with my Jetta head. I like the way it sounds but I’m curious as to how a set of ET65 10” speakers will sound in their place.. Anyone experienced on using the 10” ET 65s? Hoss
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Post by bubs42 on Jul 12, 2023 17:03:25 GMT -7
So..I have a DrZ 2x10 cab that I use with my Jetta head. I like the way it sounds but I’m curious as to how a set of ET65 10” speakers will sound in their place.. Anyone experienced on using the 10” ET 65s? Hoss I’ll be trying one soon in a 1x10. 12’s to 10’s are a perfect match usually and my only fear with he ET10’s is that they will be too dark. The Celestion 1265/ET65 are a great balance speaker, with smooth highs and 10’s usually have less highs. Plus two thick sounding speakers may sound congested.
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Post by bubs42 on Jul 14, 2023 17:21:01 GMT -7
Well I won’t be trying the ET10 soon, I purchased a Celestion VT JR and it sounds amazing in my 10” Cab I just got.
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