jimr
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Post by jimr on May 12, 2017 3:13:48 GMT -7
I just saw this comment in a thread: "the pre-year 2000 "lower filtered" 66's are darker and smokier." Is this true? I have a 1999 RT66 and I would like to brighten it up a bit if possible. I am now at treble 3/4 up all the time and using a TC MojoMojo overdrive that is really great and smooth sounding but also perhaps a little dark too. My tone is mostly low gain overdrive Blues with stacked overdrives for solo tone (Joyo Sweet Baby, TC Mojomojo, Joyo Boost). I am using a 1x12" cab with a G12H30 Anniversary and considering a Creamback Alnico or a Celestion Gold swap for more clarity. Also, any tube changes that would open the sound? I wouldn't be afraid of modifying it internally if the newer ones have other values for components. tnx JimR RT66 Blues demo (Joyo Sweet Baby)Tremolo RT66 Slow Blues (Joyo Sweet Baby)
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Post by John on May 12, 2017 4:26:05 GMT -7
If I remember, mine was a 1998 model. I was not aware there was any difference in treble. I was aware of the filter cap differences...but I think it's a pretty small difference very hard to tell unless you A/B'd them next to each other.
The route 66 is not a bright amp by any means. It's a very midrange focused amp. I always ran the treble up.
I think the Gold or Creamback would be a significant improvement over the G12H. (especially the gold)
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Post by zdogma on May 21, 2017 14:06:58 GMT -7
I think my newer Route 66 (2016) is a bit brighter than my older one (1997), but I never did a head to head comparison. There is no question that the newer one is quieter.
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Post by dixiechicken on Jun 27, 2017 3:35:02 GMT -7
DC here! I would suggest you ask the Doc himself for any modifications to the amp or change of tubes - he knows his stuff you know Route66 is a very unique amp conceptually and komponent wise - it would be easy destroys its intended sound - which is maybe what you want Ask the Docs advice then you'll have a good base to stand on - before you decide on the direction of your modifying Goodluck: Dixiechicken!
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Post by perryr on Jul 10, 2017 20:32:06 GMT -7
Early 66's had a more primitive tone, howling overtones and a bit earlier breakup. The first 20 had a slightly different power transformer, a little lower voltage, and partly the reason why they were smokier. The final version settled on a bit more clarity and headroom and less ghost noting.. You could hear it in a side by side, but overall minor tweaks. I've had both side by side, the older one sounded like the newer one as if it had been played for 20 years, an extra dose of vibe that I preferred. I think some might have fussed about the ghosting and lower filtering so Z cleaned it up some. Personally I prefer the older 66, have mine loaded with GEC KT66 and other NOS glass, blues machine!
Make sure you got a GZ34 and a good pair of power tubes. A Telefunken 12ax7 has a leaner girth and present top end. Honestly, the way the tone stack works, for best gain and drive I like the treble control up high, no worries there, crank that baby wide open if needed.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jul 11, 2017 5:56:06 GMT -7
I believe the earlier 66s had a Dixie Soundworks Power transformer - they have been out of business for sometime now.
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Post by eggman on Mar 7, 2023 1:06:27 GMT -7
Early 66's had a more primitive tone, howling overtones and a bit earlier breakup. The first 20 had a slightly different power transformer, a little lower voltage, and partly the reason why they were smokier. The final version settled on a bit more clarity and headroom and less ghost noting.. You could hear it in a side by side, but overall minor tweaks. I've had both side by side, the older one sounded like the newer one as if it had been played for 20 years, an extra dose of vibe that I preferred. I think some might have fussed about the ghosting and lower filtering so Z cleaned it up some. Personally I prefer the older 66, have mine loaded with GEC KT66 and other NOS glass, blues machine! Make sure you got a GZ34 and a good pair of power tubes. A Telefunken 12ax7 has a leaner girth and present top end. Honestly, the way the tone stack works, for best gain and drive I like the treble control up high, no worries there, crank that baby wide open if needed. You're killin' me., you're just KILLIN' me.
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