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Post by gbowman on May 9, 2017 10:12:41 GMT -7
Hi Folks
I'm curious how folks are setting the Volume vs Master controls and the results they are getting, types of music, pedals or not, etc.
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Post by doctorice on May 9, 2017 10:50:02 GMT -7
I've compiled a lot of example settings in a document. If you've not seen it, click on the link in my "signature" below to access it.
Personally, I tend to like the Master above "noon", but it can be pretty loud even with moderate settings of Volume. I'll use a Brake Lite if needed.
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Post by John on May 9, 2017 10:58:42 GMT -7
Yeah...gotta have master volume above noon. Heck if you're using a brakelite...max it out.
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Post by dendog55 on May 9, 2017 12:00:16 GMT -7
Problem is, with high settings of either volume or master your reverb and/or delay effects start to breathe and pump. Running them through the loop fixes the problem but you need to add a buffer, power source and cables, and that adds to set up time.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on May 9, 2017 12:33:38 GMT -7
It's kind of the nature of the beast. Any time you put very much gain after reverb/delay/time based effects you start to get that. I don't know of a solution except to cut back on the delay volume and repeats. If time based effects are a key part of your sound, then it's going to be worth the effort to set up the loop. That's why it's there.
OP: doctorice's spreadsheet is a really great resource.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 12:45:39 GMT -7
Problem is, with high settings of either volume or master your reverb and/or delay effects start to breathe and pump. Running them through the loop fixes the problem but you need to add a buffer, power source and cables, and that adds to set up time. I've never encountered that problem with my MAZ since 2001. Running all effects in front and adjusting them to the sound.
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Post by dcarver on May 9, 2017 13:00:49 GMT -7
When you dime your volume knobs, you're going to be pushing the pre amp tubes or output tube(s) or both into distortion. Which tubes you're running, how they distort, and how much hum they add when pushed becomes a significant factor IMHO.
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Post by gbowman on May 9, 2017 15:02:07 GMT -7
I don't have a loop on my Jr (reverb model) but usually the reverb is low enough that its not too noticeable (until you turn it off). I usually set my delay to the dynamic/ducking mode so it too is mostly out of the way until the end of a phrase etc... Seems to be an ok compromise for most things. Of course, I'm not playing any U2 tunes...
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Post by mikefleming on May 10, 2017 8:10:44 GMT -7
I play almost exclusively clean/edge of breakup. I keep the master around noon, because i think the amp really opens up in a big way as the master approaches noon. Then i keep regular volume between 8-10 o clock. brakelite is essential for this.
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Post by uncleebeneezer on May 10, 2017 10:04:14 GMT -7
I play almost exclusively clean/edge of breakup. I keep the master around noon, because i think the amp really opens up in a big way as the master approaches noon. Then i keep regular volume between 8-10 o clock. brakelite is essential for this. Me too! For my type of playing, that's the perfect setting. Clean, or a little bite, just by varying my picking/attack. Then, when I really want some scream, punch on the OD pedal. But I love having stage 1-2 of my 3 solo options being right there in my hands with no pedal-pushing needed. Plus, it sounds SOOOO good.
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Post by graybeard65 on Jul 6, 2017 23:43:57 GMT -7
My master is dimed, and the treble and bass are between 10 and 11 o'clock, mid slightly lower. Cut at 9 o'clock, with the volume also around 9 o'clock -
There's a bit of hair, but I need a pedal to really get into any sort of crunch or OD.
Oddly enough, that amp setting sounds nice with both the strat AND the Les Paul - which surprised me. I've often had to adjust the eq and the cut when switching.
Another tone setting I love is volume and TMB all dimed, and master at 9 or more for a convincing 5E3 feel - the tone is wooly but sweet, but it cleans up passably -
Respectfully -
Jas
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Post by jlc on Jul 16, 2017 6:30:17 GMT -7
For playing at home or even some small club or parties, base, female singer and myself, playing standards, i will usually set the volume slightly higher than the master. This gives me just a touch of softness, lushness and fattens up my tone. But it does depend on the room, also for jazz i am also running the cut at about 9 o clock.
Normally playing an eaarly 2000 John Scofield, Howard Roberts fusion. I mention the guitars because the humbuckers push the amp a little and give a nice Kenny B or Wes type tone.
This amp gives me the best feel for most types of music, but the interplay between the Vol and Master gives a lot of options.
My amp has a celestion blue and i also alsways use the dr z extension cab with heritage, a nice mix.
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Post by Stephen on Jul 17, 2017 8:01:31 GMT -7
For clubs, I have the volume on full, master to room. For church, master on full, volume to room.
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Post by Brian on Jul 24, 2017 12:22:09 GMT -7
Mostly country music. Volume between 9 and 10. Master between 9 and 12. Brake-lite to suit the situation. 9 on the volume stays pretty clean. 10 and above, you start getting some grit on the notes when you dig in. Master is all about room volume. I use the brake-lite to tame it enough to get the tubes going. Side note, I use pedals to get my overdrive tones. The Maz can do that on it's own, you just have to turn up the Volume past noon, then use the MV to control decibels... That is just what works for me.
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Post by idma12 on Oct 3, 2017 18:24:21 GMT -7
I'm not sure because my situations change from gig to gig and what kind of db is appropriate for the sound guy.
I'm currently running the same way a lot of you are running but quieter.
Church - Vol 5-6, master super low at 0.5-2 Regular rock and roll gig - Vol 5-6, Master at 3-5.
I've been thinking of getting a Radial JDX for this thing so that I can run at low Master Vol (vol at 5-7) and still be able to get good sound from the PA system. Is that smart to do? Or does the maz ONLY sound good when the Master Vol is turned up past 5/noon (i.e. the power amps are opened up)
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Post by scottc on Oct 30, 2017 6:52:50 GMT -7
Volume at 2:30 and Master at 1:00 Choked back with a brake lite - usually 1 or two clicks with my trio and off or one with the "big band".
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