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Post by ss "Shane" on Apr 1, 2017 9:31:56 GMT -7
I'm considering putting my Ghia on a 1X10 Z cab and was wondering if I'm gonna get a boxy sound. I'm currently running it on a 1X12 Z convertible cab w\Creamback 65. I'm loving the sound, just want to be able to tone it down and manage my volume a bit for practice in a small room.
i know I'm gonna get greenback recommendations, which normally I would agree with, but I really want to buy new from humbucker. I'm pretty sure they don't offer up a 10 cab loaded with a greenback. If my memory serves me right I've seen the Ramrod and the Red Fang available.
Will a 1X10 cab even make much difference than my 1X12 cab since my Creamback is low db? Thanks!
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Post by jimiata on Apr 1, 2017 14:29:00 GMT -7
My Ghia is a 1x10 combo with a Cel Gold...love it. I don't find it boxy, you lose a little bottom end but I don't miss it since the Gold is such a "sweet" speaker, just ask John on our forum.
Jim
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Post by Faze on Apr 1, 2017 14:47:30 GMT -7
I had a 1/10 Ghia it had the red fang which is super loud. I changed it to a Gold . I personally prefer the 1/12 combos or the 1/12 cabs. I wouldn't say it was boxy though. The 1/10 Ghia in a small room would be fine. Or just get the Cure. Then you will have that level control which is magical.
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Post by ss "Shane" on Apr 1, 2017 16:02:48 GMT -7
My Ghia is a 1x10 combo with a Cel Gold...love it. I don't find it boxy, you lose a little bottom end but I don't miss it since the Gold is such a "sweet" speaker, just ask John on our forum. Jim I'm sure the gold is a fantastic speaker, but it's also 98db. I'm kind of shooting for a less efficient speaker in order to give my Ghia some more push without being told to turn down. The drummer loves it (of course) ...the singer doesn't! But that's been the story of my life as a guitar player lol. As to the cure suggestion, if I buy another amp it will have to be the Mazerati. I know that's going in the opposite direction, but it's gonna be for when I find another band 😎. The more I think about it, the more I realize I NEED a 1X10 greenback cab.
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Post by trojanhov on Apr 1, 2017 16:26:55 GMT -7
I don't find my 1x10 combo to be boxy at all. I went from a blues Jr. to a z-28 1x10. The z-28 with either a red fang or gold sounded bigger and better than the Blues jr. I haven't played the z-28 through a 1x12 cab or a 12 inch speaker period, so I can't comment on how it compares. Sounds like the greenback is what you're after.
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Post by 2Cents on Apr 2, 2017 4:42:42 GMT -7
My Ghia is a 1x10 combo with a Cel Gold...love it. I don't find it boxy, you lose a little bottom end but I don't miss it since the Gold is such a "sweet" speaker, just ask John on our forum. Jim I'm sure the gold is a fantastic speaker, but it's also 98db. I'm kind of shooting for a less efficient speaker in order to give my Ghia some more push without being told to turn down. The drummer loves it (of course) ...the singer doesn't! But that's been the story of my life as a guitar player lol. As to the cure suggestion, if I buy another amp it will have to be the Mazerati. I know that's going in the opposite direction, but it's gonna be for when I find another band 😎. The more I think about it, the more I realize I NEED a 1X10 greenback cab. I agree, the Dr. Z 1X10 speaker cab with a Greenback sounds like what you want. Obviously, it will not sound like your 1X12 cab, but it will not be boxy either. It is a 95-decibel well-regarded speaker. If nothing else, it will expand your knowledge and add versatility and flexibility to your artistic toolbox. If that doesn’t tame the beast, future alternatives include an attenuator (least expensive), a Mini-Z (relatively inexpensive), or a Maz 8 (pricy).
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Post by jhanks on Apr 2, 2017 5:24:12 GMT -7
I agree with previous posts. I ran my CG 25th through a 212 and sometimes a 112 (100db). As volume needs changed I went to a Z 110 with the Ramrod. Then a gold 10. Finally settled on greenback 10. Of course the 212, 112 and the 110 sound different, but I never felt like the 110 was boxy. It does provide a little more room to push the amp, but it is not drastic.
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Post by ss "Shane" on Apr 2, 2017 6:12:40 GMT -7
I agree with previous posts. I ran my CG 25th through a 212 and sometimes a 112 (100db). As volume needs changed I went to a Z 110 with the Ramrod. Then a gold 10. Finally settled on greenback 10. Of course the 212, 112 and the 110 sound different, but I never felt like the 110 was boxy. It does provide a little more room to push the amp, but it is not drastic. So are you saying that there wasn't a drastic difference from the 212 or 112, down to a the 110 with a greenback? I'm kind of looking for a drastic difference in volume control. Also, I really don't want to lose that certain sparkle and 3-D quality my Ghia has beginning at around 9:00 and up. I kind of hope that the greenback sounds close to my creamback 12 that I currently use.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Apr 2, 2017 6:45:07 GMT -7
The more I think about it, the more I realize I NEED a 1X10 greenback cab. You really do. The 10" Greenback is a great all-around speaker, with very manageable volume, and is perfect with the 'Ghia.
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Post by jhanks on Apr 2, 2017 8:03:42 GMT -7
I agree with previous posts. I ran my CG 25th through a 212 and sometimes a 112 (100db). As volume needs changed I went to a Z 110 with the Ramrod. Then a gold 10. Finally settled on greenback 10. Of course the 212, 112 and the 110 sound different, but I never felt like the 110 was boxy. It does provide a little more room to push the amp, but it is not drastic. So are you saying that there wasn't a drastic difference from the 212 or 112, down to a the 110 with a greenback? I'm kind of looking for a drastic difference in volume control. Sorry if I was confusing. Yes the greenback help bring the volume down, but the tone character wasn't a drastic change between 212, 112 and the 110. A little different yes, but I still really enjoyed it. No experience with a creamback 12, so I can't speak to that. Also sent you a pm with additional info.
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Post by John on Apr 3, 2017 13:53:17 GMT -7
Boxy is a matter of your ear, and it also depends on what speaker you put in a 1x10 cabinet. The 10" gold at 98db was perfect for me. Others might want less volume....and the greenback would be great. 95db is pretty low. (The 10" greenback has a very small magnet)
A 10" speaker is going to have less bass than it's 12" counterpart. So less bass can often be translated into more mids. (After all what shines through when you cut the bass? mids!) But the less bass can also be a desired thing. I have a 12" creamback M and had a 10" gold. The creamback does have more bass. But it's really only going to be noticeable when you A/B them. When you show up to rehearsal or a gig and start playing, NO ONE is going to say "Hey, that's boxy and lacking in bass." Sure, if you A/B them in front of someone, they'll notice the difference.
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Post by zpilot on Apr 3, 2017 14:48:46 GMT -7
Makes good sense.
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Post by freddieg on Apr 3, 2017 16:14:33 GMT -7
What John said. It is not boxy but it is not a 12" speaker either. The C gold is definitely the right speaker. I am willing to trade a little bass response for the portability.
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