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Post by Stan on Feb 2, 2017 18:49:53 GMT -7
There was another post about this query, I found a video which shows actual differential loss with various different lengths and how to compensate. linktext from the test...... "I didn’t really pay attention to my cables until I’d been playing for over 15 years. But once I heard the difference, it was very hard to ignore. In this video I’ll show you very clearly how your tone changes as cable length increases. We’ll look at cables from 10’ to 75’ and you might be surprised at how much tone is lost. We’ll also talk about how to evaluate if that tone loss should matter to you. Some people actually prefer the sound of long cables. If you’ve never had the chance to compare guitar cables of different lengths, this video will open your eyes (or ears)."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 9:20:10 GMT -7
Comments on video are disabled, hmmmmm, wonder why???
I adjust the knobs on my amps and pedals until they sound good to me. Never have I ever factored in that I'm running about 70' of cable. When that day comes, it's time to check myself into the loony bin...
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Post by Maddog on Feb 12, 2017 9:55:52 GMT -7
Thant's a great video, and very scientific the way he compares differing lengths of cable.....Cool....
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 13, 2017 8:24:56 GMT -7
Comments on video are disabled, hmmmmm, wonder why??? I adjust the knobs on my amps and pedals until they sound good to me. Never have I ever factored in that I'm running about 70' of cable. When that day comes, it's time to check myself into the loony bin... The thing is, you can't turn up something that isn't there, and your tone knobs may not be influencing the frequencies that are missing anyway. You might be surprised at what's getting killed if you tried a ten footer. It could be you would like your existing setup anyway, but that's a very personal perception for all of us. I know I once built this fantastic rack-based amp setup, spent a ton of time building all of the cabling, routing it through a midi controlled switching system, etc. When I got done and turned it on, it all worked perfectly - and sounded awful to me. All my precious top end had disappeared - too many yards of cabling between my guitar and the amp input. YMMV.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 8:45:29 GMT -7
Comments on video are disabled, hmmmmm, wonder why??? I adjust the knobs on my amps and pedals until they sound good to me. Never have I ever factored in that I'm running about 70' of cable. When that day comes, it's time to check myself into the loony bin... The thing is, you can't turn up something that isn't there, and your tone knobs may not be influencing the frequencies that are missing anyway. You might be surprised at what's getting killed if you tried a ten footer. It could be you would like your existing setup anyway, but that's a very personal perception for all of us. I know I once built this fantastic rack-based amp setup, spent a ton of time building all of the cabling, routing it through a midi controlled switching system, etc. When I got done and turned it on, it all worked perfectly - and sounded awful to me. All my precious top end had disappeared - too many yards of cabling between my guitar and the amp input. YMMV. I get it completely. My point was that tone suck is going to happen somewhere in your chain, and it's pointless to obsess over it. I've been using 30 footers to my wah and then 30 footers out of an ABY to two amps for as long as I can remember. I don't know any better. I do have one of the best buffers in the world on my board, though. The TC Electronic SCF.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 14, 2017 7:33:09 GMT -7
I get it completely. My point was that tone suck is going to happen somewhere in your chain, and it's pointless to obsess over it. I've been using 30 footers to my wah and then 30 footers out of an ABY to two amps for as long as I can remember. I don't know any better. I do have one of the best buffers in the world on my board, though. The TC Electronic SCF. Ah, now there is a variable that we hadn't discussed with respect to tone loss and long cables. A buffer. The reason my referenced rack setup sucked tone so bad was I was trying to do everything "true bypass" as at that time the available buffers were not so great. These days great buffers are everywhere, and will completely resolve the tone suck problem. You're probably getting everything you want.
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Post by telejas on Mar 1, 2017 17:22:46 GMT -7
I was actually surprised when I plugged straight into my amp with a 3ft cable, vs guitar into> 18ft cable>true bypass tuner>18ft cable>amp...There was a noticeable loss in tone when running through 36ft of cable with a true bypass pedal in the middle vs 3ft cable into the amp.
For the most part, I could somewhat compensate by turning my treble up, but it wasn't exact. Was it enough to make me invest in expensive hi-fi cables??? No...But it did convince me to get a buffer or two to put in my chain.....Which helped quite a bit.
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Post by meanslide on Mar 7, 2017 15:59:27 GMT -7
Not only cable length but brand as well. I switched from an all Monster cable setup (2 12 ft cables, and a pedal or two between them.) to PCNS cables (same lengths) and man there was a difference. Just comparing a straight 12ft input cable to cable, the Monsters were dark. I switched everything to PCNS, even the speaker>amp cable. Big difference.
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