I dont know if its good to mention this, the factory does not have a show room. They really arent equiped to host visitors at all but they were good enough to let me make an appointment to try these two amps which they just happen to have available to try. This might sound strange but they dont actually have a bunch of brand new amplifiers laying around. They were just decent people and Im grateful to have been afforded the opportunity.
Ash I have a two rock studio pro 35. It's a great amp. Thick and warm. Full. Huge sound. It's loud enough believe me. I also have 5 Dr Zs. The maz 8, Jaz 20/40, carmen ghia, Z28, and just picked up a Route 66 yesterday. The route is a nice thick amp too but so far my two rock is much better to my ears for warmth and girth over the 66. It's close but the two rock kinda wins.
SOld my Two Rock SP 35 two months ago and bought Z-Lux but I've noticed I miss the solid, firm bottom of TR and find Z-Lux too soft with my strat and a chambered body Les Paul. Do you think I could find the Two Rocks solidness, firmness in EZG50 too? I used to have a TR combo but now thinking whether I should get a head and a cab by TR or perhaps get a EZG. Have to admit Z-Lux takes pedals, modulation especially, way better than TR. I guess 6L6s and fixed bias amps are my thing after all. Also been thinking about Reeves Space Cowboy.
The unpleasant truth is I cant check out EZG or Reeves myself here in Finland so I just have to pick all the info & views otherwise.
Unfortunately I have never played a two rock. They were on my list but just cant find a place to try one. Im stubborn like that. I drove to Pennsilvania to try a suhr Bella, they were out, didnt buy one. I did try the Zlux and EZG side by side. I was looking for a pedal platform. In that regard the EZG won hands down. It was bigger, warmer, fatter, etc. Playing the Zlux made me rethink my criteria. It is the kind of amp that pretty much does it all and you can leave the pedal board at home. Im liking that idea. I have money on a used one at GC. Im guessing the EZG has bigger iron, higher wattage, louder, sounds bigger. I really wasn't thinking about bass response. I wish I could play a two rock so I could give you better information.
So you're in Findland! How awesome! I want to go to Finland! I would love to visit your country.
At first I was interested in EZG but then I was told, warned & intimidated by a pal of mine (a pro player) who said the dynamics of EZG is just overwhelming, too vast. So I figured it'd be too challenging, difficult to play with and handle that hyper extravagant dynamics. Any truth in that (compared to other amps)?? Really liked hear some opinions - interesting how much they differ! No such a problem in Z-Lux or Two Rock SP - the dynamics just fine in both of them.
Wellcome - Finland's nice in many ways, though not a perfect spot for a tone junkie but I'll get along.
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Helsinki looks like a beautiful city. Are you anywhere near there? It's definitely on my bucket list. Do many people speak English there. Or would I have a lot of trouble communicating? Sorry, I am not well traveled.
I'm sure your friend knows what he's talking about however, based on that terminology, "dynamics", I would not consider the EZG to be unwieldy or difficult to play. It does have a certain flavor to it. Think big Fendery cleans like SRV and a super washy reverb. As opposed to a tight and concise sound. It is room filing. You could crank up the verb and play minor blues riffs and the band can take a break. It's an amp that can fill a room by itself. But honestly, while the controls look pretty simple, they work, and you can pretty much get out of it what you want.
The Zlux is not really a DR clone in my view however you can get very DR-ish if you dial it in right. It's when it crunches up that it leaves DR-land and it WANTS to crunch up! The verb is different too. It's more like a studio reverb than surf city.
It might be that I'll take an ecursion to UK or Germany later in the spring to check out some boutique stuff, EZG50 on my list sure.
The reverb of Z-Lux is a little thin or not organic and full so I use Hall of Fame, the Hall mode, a perfect match. The tremolo I do like though I haven't had tremolo amps before so cant really judge if Z-Lux's tremolo is only good or excellent. Don't care too much of the overdriven tones of Lux. With Les Paul the tone gets easily distorted but just don't like the way it clips or the color of the gain tone. But again I and Z-LUx are really happy with the Bogner Blue Ecstasy & Zvex Distortron plexi tones. Have to say that the perfect union is the combination of Gibson ES335 Luther Dickinson & Z-Lux. Both shine & blossom.
Helsinki's my town. Love to live here. You get along with english really well all over in Scandinavia, surely in Helsinki. I guess a regular tourist trip isn't the best way to the best out of your journey. A customized, lonely planet spirited trip will give you more. Where are you from?
I am in the far western suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio, US.. I live in a town called North Ridgeville. Its name comes from a ridge formed from an ancient glacier. Nothing worth looking at really but it made a good name. I am close to Lake Erie. I live on one side of Cleveland and work on the other! Property was cheaper on the West side. Cleveland is not a super big city by US standards. I pass not far from the Z facrory on my way home every day! Recently I stopped by the factory were I demo'ed both the EZG-50 and the Z-lux. It was great meeting a couple of the guys and seeing were the amps are made.
Regarding travel, I am planning on taking a European vacation and seeing how far the trains will take me!
So you live next to the gates of Eden. You're blessed. Could live with that too. Let me hear if you ever visit 'em again & check out DB4, Remedy, Therapy for starters. I can only speculate and make good guesses on the grounds of the demo videos etc. Is there also a decent guitar store in Cleveland?
I guess the great lakes district isn't that different from the nature & weather in Finland. We're proud of our lakes but lake Erie & the others must be like seas. If you feel like taking look at Scandinavia on your trip I guess Norway with its fjords & mountains are way more impressive than the most the nature here. Anyway if you find you way here let me hear from you. You'll find me in Facebook. My name is Markus Linnanen. In my profile photo I've got a cherry sunburst acoustic guitar in my lap, in case you find more dudes by that name.
Oh yah! I see your page! I sent you a friend request. I dont use Facebook much. The only reason I even have it is I sometimes post stuff on a bands web site. But I have to admit it was great to find your page. Findland is way north of Cleveland. I wonder if it colder there or because of the way air patterns move across the globe it is really similar. The great lakes are big. You cant see acros them and they are definitely wilder than smaller lakes but tame compared to the Ocean. Plus its not likely you will run across something that will eat you!
The Z factory really isnt set up for visitors. There is a store in the area, Guitar Riot. Good guys and they do carry Z amps. The problem is they are a Z store but can only carry a few of the Doctors many models. I bought a Strymon Mobius there the other day.
I demoed the Maz there one time and didnt care for it. However I was just watching Paisley playing Rocky Mountain way with Joe Walsh. His tone was stellar. I think the problem was I didnt understand the way the tone controls work and am interested in giving it a second try. Im picking up my Zlux on Tuesday.
Guitar Riot did have a DB 4 and I believe they had a Therapy as well. I may be able to check them out there. They have to drag everything into a sound proofed room for demo it makes it hard if you arent a serious buyer.
Jaguarguy (Mike): Hey Gary - Joe Walsh used a G12 65 in his Galaxie and it sounds great!
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GuitarZ: So, I cranked up the privacy protection on my browsers, facebook, etc. I have to say I miss the music ads and such. I really don't need ads for watches and other random stuff. Maybe the internet knowing me isn't such a bad thing.
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hayesgary307: hanks alot (Mike) I have been going through a Vintage 30 in a open back pine cabinet and through a Marshall 1936 C/B 2-12 I'll check and see what kind of speakers are in the 1936. I've had for a long time and I have forgot whats in it . Thanks for you help
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Joey Beverages: hayesgary307 try a Z 210 or Z 410 with Galaxie ... also, yes the G1265 is most tasty and excellent
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The Bad Poodle: This may be a truism... when you work in a corporate structure, the worst decisions always come from the top.
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Lefty: The fish rots from the head down.
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TeeDawg: Bad Poodle..........truer words have never been said. Imagine what it's like working for NASA. This ain't the nasa that went to the moon fo sho.
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brayks: I have been absent for waaay to long. hope all are doing well!
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GuitarZ: I'm okay with the AARP letters. You're still living and breathing? What the heck am I to think when a funeral home sends me a free consultation offer? Ouch!
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The Bad Poodle: I bought airline tickets online... now every few days i get emails that read "Your trip is almost here but aren't you forgetting something?? You don't have trip insurance!" and i'm thinking..."is there something i should know about your plane maintenance?"
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GuitarZ: Reminds me of buying my Honda. When they tried to sell me the maintenance package, I said "Is your car not reliable?" Long story short my wife teamed up with the sales lady to buy the maint package. Never again!
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