Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 6, 2017 20:29:27 GMT -7
I've had Pro Tools running off and on in my studio for a few years. It is an off and on affair because I do not have the resources to dedicate a single machine to the task. Thus my recording setup is also connected to the Internet and collects updates on a regular basis. Pro Tools is just PI$$ED OFF about that.
So I've been falling back on other recording systems here. My Adobe Creative Cloud subscription includes Audition, which is a fairly good multitrack recording setup, and it is stable AND ALWAYS WORKS WITH THE LATEST OS UPDATES. Can't say that about Pro Tools.
But I have a lot of money into the Pro Tools platform, so when I saw an offer to update to version 12 with a subscription model, I took the plunge. It seems a lot different from what I'm used to, so I'm running through a Lynda.com training session to get back up to speed.
Time will tell. My recording machine is now running Windows 10 and Pro Tools does not yet support that, although it seems to be running ok. I could put it on my ancient Macbook Pro but that machine is so slow to restart, and even there we have the OS version issue.
Hopefully I'll get it up and running in the next number of days and give a whirl at some recording.
Man.... I am sooooo ignorant about all this stuff. With my new video interest, I find my audio skills also greatly lacking. I currently use Adobe Premier Pro.... but there's so much stuff there to learn, I feel like an idiot.... Please keep us briefed on where you're going here, Steve.... always glad to let someone smarter blaze the trail......
PT12 really relies on RAM. Get as much as you can for that rig.
Hopefully it won't be a problem, but it could be. The motherboard in this machine taps out at 8GB which I hadn't realized when I started down this path. To get more, I have to dump the motherboard, which isn't exactly in the budget just now. RAM is so cheap these days too...
I've been using Cakewalk Sonar forever. I've upgraded a few times and got burned once or twice by then having to upgrade sound card and/or PC to keep up. I've now avoided upgrades since buying 8.5 back in 2010 since I feel I basically have everything I need.
My question is, what am I missing by not migrating to ProTools or something else? Am I? Or, at my level does it really matter? I kind of feel that the next time I have to upgrade, I should try something else.
Interestingly enough, as I was researching how old my software might be, Cakewalk Sonar has also migrated to the subscription model. I kind of feel if this was 1980 and I had a real good multitrack analog recorder, mixer, etc, I wouldn't want to upgrade the thing every year because it sounds good and why bother with glitches on every upgrade. So, in today's digital world, I still have that 1980 feeling and if I had to upgrade every year, I'd be upgrading my other gear to keep up.
Oh, didn't meant to hijack the thread. Good luck with that upgrade BentTop. Didn't mean to sound like Debbie Downer.
Eric - You may have created unintended collateral damage. When we started our last project, we had to downshift to 44.1/24 due to issues at 96/24. Great! Now it's going to bug me that I'm not at 96. Actually, it probably won't because I think my ears would need an upgrade to hear the difference. You professional folks not only have skilled fingers for twiddling the knobs, but skilled ears to hear.
I can't remember if my setup wasn't happy at 96/24 or whether it was when we were transferring files. Hmmm.
I've been at 96k for years. So almost everything I've done has been at 96k.
I do a lot of mixing of other peoples stuff. Stuff that has been recorded and they are looking for another set of ears when mixing. When at all possible I try to talk to these people and advise them on their setup before recording.
The low resolution (44 or 48)really shows itself on the drums, cymbals mostly. Acoustic guitars too. That and recording with cheap mics on the overheads and not having any treatment above the drums.
As I'm mixing, pulling up the stuff that makes drums sound great that's where we start to hear the low res, and we may hear the cheap mics or the untreated ceiling above the drums. Sure, all this stuff eventually gets dithered down to 44.1/16 for cd's but the source really matters.
benttop (Steve) (Steve) I run PT 12 at home on an iMac that has just 8 meg of RAM and it works pretty well. Better than PT 10 actually. I have no idea about PC's though.
I'm quite sure that the few things I record here will require considerably less resources than the multi-track stuff you are doing. I never get above three to five tracks, and generally just one or two effects at most. I suppose it could grow if I like how the midi stuff plays...
Post by lukefromcanada on Jan 8, 2017 8:24:02 GMT -7
I've been running pro tools in windows 10. Only problem I've encountered is that the click regularly crashes recording :/
For editing/comping I've been forced to use it as the studio we use has pro tools and our mixing engineer has pro tools. On the plus side rather than buying a new Mac I could switch to windows and get WAY more power for less money. Which means more money for amps! Haha
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