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Post by John James on Mar 30, 2016 19:22:42 GMT -7
So here goes.
once upon a time, I had the head/cab rig but ended up selling it due to how d**n loud it was and the fact I wasn't really playing much. Fast forward to now when I realize it's the best sounding amp out there and need another. I like the look of the head/cab much better than the combo but I want it playable for obvious reasons. Would it be comparable to the combo if I simply unplugged one of the speakers and ran it like a 1x12? Any cons to that? I'm guessing a z break would help in either case as well. Thanks in advance
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Post by Rockerfeller on Mar 30, 2016 19:29:58 GMT -7
The problems we create for ourselves!
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Post by telejas on Mar 31, 2016 6:25:53 GMT -7
So.... I had a Quantum Silver head/cab and used it for over a year for several-several gigs. But, most of my gigs, now-a-days, are small to medium sized clubs with the occasional bigger venue or outdoors gig (or opening for a bigger band). For about 95% of my gigs, the head/cab was just too much. I did use a Brake-lite, but it seemed to take some of the life out of the amp at how much I had to attenuate it. I even tried the "one speaker" trick, but it just didn't sound full.
Through some heavy searching, I lucked into finding a Z-Wreck 1x12 combo cab and moved the chassis, one Gold and my brake-lite over to the new cab. After the first show with the combo, I was 110% happy with the swap!
The 1x12 combo sounds different, but still sounds like a Z-Wreck - but with slightly different "mojo". The low end seems more pronounced, which is odd for a 1x12(?), and the over-all feel is less "stiff" feeling. It is slightly lower in perceived volume and You can also attenuate it more and it doesn't feel, or sound, as "squished". Plus, it takes up less room on a small stage.
.....And, being a Z-Wreck it is still plenty loud enough for the bigger/outdoor shows, when you bypass the brake-lite, and sounds a little more aggressive when you crank it up.
The other option you have is to get the head/cab and add a 1x12 cab to your set up. It won't match the head, unless you get it custom made, but you'll have the 1x12 option available when you need it. But I will say, the 1x12 combo is pretty magical and a perfect match for the Z-Wreck.
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Post by John James on Mar 31, 2016 19:18:26 GMT -7
So the 1x12 is the real deal then? An attenuator needed still I assume?
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Post by telejas on Mar 31, 2016 19:51:41 GMT -7
So the 1x12 is the real deal then? An attenuator needed still I assume? Real deal, yes Attenuator, yes
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Apr 1, 2016 4:54:52 GMT -7
If volume is your issue, attenuator is your answer.
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Post by markT on Apr 1, 2016 6:37:48 GMT -7
The 1x12 combo sounds different, but still sounds like a Z-Wreck - but with slightly different "mojo". The low end seems more pronounced, which is odd for a 1x12(?), and the over-all feel is less "stiff" feeling. It is slightly lower in perceived volume and You can also attenuate it more and it doesn't feel, or sound, as "squished". Plus, it takes up less room on a small stage. .....And, being a Z-Wreck it is still plenty loud enough for the bigger/outdoor shows, when you bypass the brake-lite, and sounds a little more aggressive when you crank it up. Very well said and the way I feel. I had the Quantum silver set, then a head and 1-12 cab w/Gold, then finally the combo. I greatly preferred the combo above all other options.
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Post by carrjimi on Apr 3, 2016 20:46:32 GMT -7
I have a 2x12 head/cab. lately i just unhook the blue and run it at 8ohms instead of 16. if I need the extra volume I use the blue and gold.
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Post by drmatty on Oct 9, 2016 10:05:53 GMT -7
Hi folks. I'm new to this forum, but I've been lusting over the Z Wreck for years. Two questions:
1. Do most of y'all recommend the combo over the head/cab? 2. Does unplugging one Blue from the 2x12 actually change the volume, or decrease sound dispersion?
Thanks for the help!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Oct 9, 2016 12:43:58 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum drmatty! A lot of good people and information here.
1) really depends on your needs. There is no 2x12 combo - only a 1x12. Certainly the combo is heavier to move around than the head. But then you have two pieces of gear to move rather than just one if you get the head/separate cab configuration. I have a head but keep looking at the combo - maybe one of these days.
2) Not sure you want to run the Z-Wreck through a single blue - you might be looking for a new speaker if you crank up the Wreck. In the Wreck combo Doc uses a Gold, not a Blue.
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Post by sharkboy on Oct 9, 2016 15:12:26 GMT -7
This has been simple for me. I am having to deal with weight limitations for gear and wear and tear on my roadies (who are all typically just me,) and having cabinet/speaker options, I have been big on the separate head and cab wagon, since I dumped my Mesa mkIII combo about 20 years ago. I play and sing better when I'm not in agony. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by telejas on Oct 17, 2016 19:27:33 GMT -7
This has been simple for me. I am having to deal with weight limitations for gear and wear and tear on my roadies (who are all typically just me,) and having cabinet/speaker options, I have been big on the separate head and cab wagon, since I dumped my Mesa mkIII combo about 20 years ago. I play and sing better when I'm not in agony. Your mileage may vary. The Z-Wreck head is only 38 pounds, but the Z-Wreck 2x12 cabinet is 61 pounds The Z-Wreck 1x12 combo is only 53 pounds. This is one of the cases where the 1x12 combo is lighter than a 2x12 speaker cab.
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Post by bagabonz on Oct 18, 2016 9:22:27 GMT -7
I'm really jonesing for the 2x12. The only thing better than a Zwreck through a blue is a Zwreck through 2 blues!
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Post by perryr on Oct 21, 2016 23:51:05 GMT -7
I love my Z-Wreck 1x12 combo's, I have the Brake lite installed, and of course the Gold. The Gold (and Blue) take a while to break in, but man when they do they are so sweet. usually 1 click of the brake lite and its a good small club volume, maybe 2 clicks if I really gotta bring it down. 1 click is a nice stage sound, put a mic on it if I need more. Definitely my desert island amp!
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Post by drzplayer on Nov 9, 2016 21:19:34 GMT -7
Z Wreck with an attenuator, volume issue solved. love it.
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Post by bagabonz on Nov 10, 2016 8:39:50 GMT -7
Definitely agree although its a special time when I can crank up the Zwreck without attenuation. Really love the Powerstation Zwreck combination. El Capistan in the loop of the PS and I'm lost for hours. The PS has two speaker outs so I can connect different combinations of speakers without worrying about the ohm differences. The PS has 4/8/16 ohm switch for input and output.
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