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Post by brightlight on Mar 16, 2016 13:45:08 GMT -7
So we all know the wreck can deliver classy cleans and thick screamin leads and over driven tones. I'm just wondering how some other folks perfer to run the wreck for live performances.
I'm currently using a Gibson 335 with a z drive and I'm kinda feeling that the z drive is redundant in my rig considering the wreck does everything I need with just the guitar volume knob. Well ALMOST everything.
The 335 with the wreck delivers a great crunchy rhythm and a smooth overdrive with just the guitar knobs, but there's that little bit of extra juice still missing for when solos come around. I've been trying to use OD pedals set to minimum gain, max volume, and as close to an unchanged eq (but with a necessary mid hump) to push the wreck into that territory. The results have been so so as I'm never quite happy with the end product: too much gain, not enough gain, the eq is changed too much.
Is a clean boost the better option here?
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Post by NZPete on Mar 16, 2016 15:02:57 GMT -7
I also have a similar issue. I have struggled to find a good OD pedal for lead tones that I like with the wreck. I recently started using an old TC Jauernig atomic fet boy that I've had for years and have had good results with this. Almost to the point where I am thinking of getting another and running one as an always on pedal, here is a link to the one that I've been using: www.aceguitars.com.au/tcjafb.html I am interested to hear what others do for the same thing?
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Mar 16, 2016 15:39:21 GMT -7
sounds like you're after a KoT or Klone. Treble boost that doesn't push the bass further into compression but clears up your sound a bit and gives it more presence...
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Post by telejas on Mar 22, 2016 19:53:02 GMT -7
I guess it depends what kind of sound you're after? I need cleans Waylon Jennings/Buck Owned on one song, John Cougar tones on the next, Motley Crue on the next and SRV on the next and all the way up to Metallica on a few songs. So a clean boost won't work for me, I need different levels of dirt at decent volumes. I'm usually a TS type of pedal player (Paisley Drive) on about 85% of the songs we play and use a Wampler Pinnacle on the harder stuff..But I just traded for a Prince of Tone over the weekend and this may become my goto medium drive pedal, time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 20:51:31 GMT -7
It sounds like you need the Keeley Oxblood. I really wish the channels in the Z Drive could be stacked...
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Post by Norrin Radd on Mar 28, 2016 17:52:34 GMT -7
I found this series of videos exceedingly helpful for this type of question. Actually, I think all their videos are excellent. YMMV
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Post by curtisjames on Mar 30, 2016 16:59:27 GMT -7
The Kingsley pedals leave me wanting nothing. They're like having little individual Amps on your pedal board. I run the Minstrel, then the Harlot to saturate and tone stack. Simons work is unparalleled.
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Post by justjoshinya on Jul 21, 2016 18:58:49 GMT -7
I was kinda thinking the same way, I am finding my pedals useless with the Z Wreck other than reverb, tremolo and delay... It does everything I want just by playing softer or harder with my G&L bluesboy! I love the amp! Really feel the same with my Z-Lux just run a Greer Relic Drive when I wanna add a bit of dirt to it!
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Post by bryan0418 on Jul 21, 2016 20:24:51 GMT -7
I have been using the tape saturation on the Strymon Deco into my Z Wreck lately and I am pretty happy with it. Sometimes I run my Klon KTR into the deco to give it a slight volume boost. The sound I get is very similar to the Z Wreck's overdrive but without the volume. What stands out is the Deco gives me good dirt but it still sounds full unlike some overdrive pedals that I ran into the Z Wreck.
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Post by gotmojo on Jul 31, 2016 21:15:33 GMT -7
Ummm.... at the risk of being a bit redundant, here, because I've said it before, but ...... Why do you need a boost or OD pedal with a Wreck? I can get everything I need from the volume knob of my guitar (Tele). I set the Wreck up with the volume at 2:30-3:00 and then turn the guitar Vol back for rhythm, dial it up to whatever distortion I want for a solo. Most solos I take are with the guitar up to say 7 or so; need more distortion and naz?, go to 8. Need tons o' Nazz, nut that bad boy all the way up. It's so easy, so simple, and so controllable. Can even change distortion levels during different parts of a solo. I never have to bend over to twiddle a knob (only to pick up my pick). Granted, I have a Z Brake in the mix to keep the rig volume where I need it. I'm not knocking you pedal pushers, only saying ..........
jj
like a broken record
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Post by brightlight on Aug 2, 2016 10:08:23 GMT -7
Ummm.... at the risk of being a bit redundant, here, because I've said it before, but ...... Why do you need a boost or OD pedal with a Wreck? I can get everything I need from the volume knob of my guitar (Tele). I set the Wreck up with the volume at 2:30-3:00 and then turn the guitar Vol back for rhythm, dial it up to whatever distortion I want for a solo. Most solos I take are with the guitar up to say 7 or so; need more distortion and naz?, go to 8. Need tons o' Nazz, nut that bad boy all the way up. It's so easy, so simple, and so controllable. Can even change distortion levels during different parts of a solo. I never have to bend over to twiddle a knob (only to pick up my pick). Granted, I have a Z Brake in the mix to keep the rig volume where I need it. I'm not knocking you pedal pushers, only saying .......... jj like a broken record I still use the volume knob for verse rhythm vs. Chorus rhythm. The volume knob just isn't always enough for certain songs and genres and can be inconvenient during certain parts of songs when tone/volume/gain changes have to occur rapidly and precisely. I also play a 335 now and I will say that volume knob control was much easier with a tele than the new guitar. The addition of pedals for this purpose can also mitigate the treble/presence loss when turning a guitars volume knob down a lot. There's a ton of reasons really.
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Post by markT on Aug 2, 2016 14:19:09 GMT -7
I still use the volume knob for verse rhythm vs. Chorus rhythm. The volume knob just isn't always enough for certain songs and genres and can be inconvenient during certain parts of songs when tone/volume/gain changes have to occur rapidly and precisely. I also play a 335 now and I will say that volume knob control was much easier with a tele than the new guitar. The addition of pedals for this purpose can also mitigate the treble/presence loss when turning a guitars volume knob down a lot. There's a ton of reasons really. I can see where just a volume knob would work for some folks. ( Listen to jj's CD and you'd hear he doesn't go from one extreme to the other. Mainly clean to mean with a twist. ) And that might not be enough for others. Personally, all I use with my Z Wreck is a clean boost AND volume knob. If I need something a little more extreme, I'm just one stomp away~ I like a Klon or variation...BadBob Boost or my Beano Boost..... Landgraff Clean Boost is wonderful too~
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Post by dixiechicken on Aug 3, 2016 6:18:23 GMT -7
DC here! 1) It's true that the treble disappears when backing off the volume on you guitar - at least if everything is wired standard - but there is lots of info on treble bleed wiring on the net to mitigate that problem. 2) I have the Timmy pedal on my board that works well with my Route66 at least I dial in the volume boost and the amount dirt I want - then I turn the bass and treble controls up on the Timmy - to cut out some of the added overtones - until the amount of bass and treble with the Timmy on sounds the same as only playing the Route66. Problem with adding dirt is it can muddy up your sound so it doesn't cut through as well. As always YMMV. If you did not know - the Timmy's bass & treble controls act as cut controls when you turn them up - when all the way down they let the sound through as is I know this sounds a bit backwards - but I find that idea makes a lot of sense. Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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