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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 10:15:44 GMT -7
That's good to hear. It's passed two out of three tests: I liked what I heard on the YouTube clips and it seems that no one, absolutely no one, has anything bad to say about Barber products. Number three is the tough one, testing it with your own rig. I feel pretty good, though! I think there's enough flexibility in the GC to accommodate most any rig, Frank. You likely will be able to get it there. I have confidence. Doc's amps have played well with anything I've thrown at them!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 15:03:09 GMT -7
I think there's enough flexibility in the GC to accommodate most any rig, Frank. You likely will be able to get it there. I have confidence. Doc's amps have played well with anything I've thrown at them! Well, my Gain Changer arrived. Safe to say this baby's a keeper. I'm wondering if I even need to keep the Oxblood on my board anymore, it's THAT good...
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Post by gotmojo on Mar 24, 2016 16:44:16 GMT -7
Ummmm...... I know I haven't been around much lately, so I prolly shouldn't throw in my two cents, especially since its anti-pedal, but ..... I can't resist! With an amp like the Therapy, why use a pedal at all? I just dial up the amp's Volume knob to whatever amount of distortion I want (on Z amps its usually about 2-3 o'clock) with the guitar volume nutted, then use my guitar (Tele) volume knob to dial from clean to distortion. Never fails me at all. I can do the whole night like that, only occasionally dialing in a little more amp volume to go "crazy fuzz" (vol at 4 o'clock!), for the one or two songs that require such extreme (for example Cinnamon Girl or Reeling in the Years). The Therapy (and the Remedy) master volumes are so good I can do any loudness level this way. With the Wreck, I do it using a Z Brake. In my old amps, like AC 30's, I've installed a Brake Lite to do the same. Not to be snobby or poopy here, but ...... Why are you guys using pedals? The amps sound so good straight in!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 17:43:18 GMT -7
Ummmm...... I know I haven't been around much lately, so I prolly shouldn't throw in my two cents, especially since its anti-pedal, but ..... I can't resist! With an amp like the Therapy, why use a pedal at all? I just dial up the amp's Volume knob to whatever amount of distortion I want (on Z amps its usually about 2-3 o'clock) with the guitar volume nutted, then use my guitar (Tele) volume knob to dial from clean to distortion. Never fails me at all. I can do the whole night like that, only occasionally dialing in a little more amp volume to go "crazy fuzz" (vol at 4 o'clock!), for the one or two songs that require such extreme (for example Cinnamon Girl or Reeling in the Years). The Therapy (and the Remedy) master volumes are so good I can do any loudness level this way. With the Wreck, I do it using a Z Brake. In my old amps, like AC 30's, I've installed a Brake Lite to do the same. Not to be snobby or poopy here, but ...... Why are you guys using pedals? The amps sound so good straight in! jj As good as the Therapy's MV is, preamp gain is still preamp gain. I'd prefer to dial in the amp for slight break up, and control my cleans and overdrive with a volume knob and pedal.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 25, 2016 10:29:54 GMT -7
Has anyone tried a Bogner Ecstasy Red with their Therapy (or other Z amp)? I'm seriously thinking about getting my hands on one. The demo clips sound great but like someone said, testing a pedal via demos is like test driving a car from the back seat...
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 25, 2016 16:50:37 GMT -7
I just got home with the Bogner Ecstasy Red pedal, I'll let ya know what it sounds like with the Therapy, as soon as I can unplug it from my Z-Lux. Sure sounds great with that amp. Somehow it manages to keep the bass solid and sing out the mids and highs like nothing else. Really cool, I'm happy so far! It's got bite without pain. Very smooth.
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Post by walt on Mar 25, 2016 18:24:37 GMT -7
That was a quick turnaround
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 19:27:22 GMT -7
Excited to see what you think of it with the Therapy. I have to say, I spent a good three hours today with the Gain Changer and the Therapy. I'm over the moon with this pedal. It may be the best pedal I've ever owned...
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Post by purpletele on Mar 25, 2016 21:17:37 GMT -7
Excited to see what you think of it with the Therapy. I have to say, I spent a good three hours today with the Gain Changer and the Therapy. I'm over the moon with this pedal. It may be the best pedal I've ever owned... OK Frank, Now I'm interested. You sold the Oxblood which is admittedly a really nice sounding tonal range. Can you describe what you get that is different from the Oxblood? Are you stacking the GC behind the Z drive or are you blown away by the pedal on it's own? I am getting ready to thin my test panel of OD's but god forbid I miss a tone!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 22:04:00 GMT -7
Excited to see what you think of it with the Therapy. I have to say, I spent a good three hours today with the Gain Changer and the Therapy. I'm over the moon with this pedal. It may be the best pedal I've ever owned... OK Frank, Now I'm interested. You sold the Oxblood which is admittedly a really nice sounding tonal range. Can you describe what you get that is different from the Oxblood? Are you stacking the GC behind the Z drive or are you blown away by the pedal on it's own? I am getting ready to thin my test panel of OD's but god forbid I miss a tone! First things first, I really enjoyed owning the Oxblood. It covers a whole lot of sonic ground and plays well with other overdrives, however, live, I found it to be a bit too honky in the mids. I was using it as a heavier rhythm drive tone, as well as a lead boost over the red channel of the Z Drive. When using it for the more overdriven rhythm sections, I was stepping all over the other guitarist in my band and drowning him out in the mix. It cut TOO well. I had to dial back the mids on the Z Drive to compensate for the Oxblood, and, well, the Z Drive works best with that mid knob past noon, so I wasn't having any of that. I think the Oxblood is best served in front of a midrange-lacking Fender type amp more than an already bright Z amp. I will miss the Oxblood into the Monza, though... The Barber Gain Changer is absolutely ridiculous. It will do light-medium overdrive almost all the way to distortion territory. The harmonics are rich and natural and never too over the top like they can be with the Oxblood. The bottom end remains tight, the EQ switch will let the pedal remain neutral in the mix or give you a slight Tubesceamer-esque mid range bump depending on how its set. The deal sealer for me is that the pedal has more of a smooth, American voiced overdrive to it. It truly feels like an extension of the Therapy, just like the Z Drive feels like an extension of the Maz. When I stepped on the Oxblood, I always knew I was kicking on a pedal... The Gain Changer is a keeper, for sure...
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Post by purpletele on Mar 25, 2016 22:29:47 GMT -7
OK Frank, Now I'm interested. You sold the Oxblood which is admittedly a really nice sounding tonal range. Can you describe what you get that is different from the Oxblood? Are you stacking the GC behind the Z drive or are you blown away by the pedal on it's own? I am getting ready to thin my test panel of OD's but god forbid I miss a tone! First things first, I really enjoyed owning the Oxblood. It covers a whole lot of sonic ground and plays well with other overdrives, however, live, I found it to be a bit too honky in the mids. I was using it as a heavier rhythm drive tone, as well as a lead boost over the red channel of the Z Drive. When using it for the more overdriven rhythm sections, I was stepping all over the other guitarist in my band and drowning him out in the mix. It cut TOO well. I had to dial back the mids on the Z Drive to compensate for the Oxblood, and, well, the Z Drive works best with that mid knob past noon, so I wasn't having any of that. I think the Oxblood is best served in front of a midrange-lacking Fender type amp more than an already bright Z amp. I will miss the Oxblood into the Monza, though... The Barber Gain Changer is absolutely ridiculous. It will do light-medium overdrive almost all the way to distortion territory. The harmonics are rich and natural and never too over the top like they can be with the Oxblood. The bottom end remains tight, the EQ switch will let the pedal remain neutral in the mix or give you a slight Tubesceamer-esque mid range bump depending on how its set. The deal sealer for me is that the pedal has more of a smooth, American voiced overdrive to it. It truly feels like an extension of the Therapy, just like the Z Drive feels like an extension of the Maz. When I stepped on the Oxblood, I always knew I was kicking on a pedal... The Gain Changer is a keeper, for sure... Great description and info! I like the fact that you sold the Oxblood and picked up a few bucks on the Gain Changer. Glad you found your tone!
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Post by walt on Mar 26, 2016 5:27:37 GMT -7
I just broke down my board and last night played-polytune-dimebag wah-gain changer-belle epoch(set for glam slapback)-Therapy-I was in 1973-76 tonal heaven.
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Post by doctorice on Mar 26, 2016 5:41:18 GMT -7
The Gain Changer is a keeper, for sure... Glad you're enjoying it. Barber stuff hits a sweet spot for tone at a reasonable price. GC was on my board for quite a while; pulled it when I got the Z Drive. Probably time for me to do an inventory of all my dirt boxes just for the heck of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 8:17:12 GMT -7
First things first, I really enjoyed owning the Oxblood. It covers a whole lot of sonic ground and plays well with other overdrives, however, live, I found it to be a bit too honky in the mids. I was using it as a heavier rhythm drive tone, as well as a lead boost over the red channel of the Z Drive. When using it for the more overdriven rhythm sections, I was stepping all over the other guitarist in my band and drowning him out in the mix. It cut TOO well. I had to dial back the mids on the Z Drive to compensate for the Oxblood, and, well, the Z Drive works best with that mid knob past noon, so I wasn't having any of that. I think the Oxblood is best served in front of a midrange-lacking Fender type amp more than an already bright Z amp. I will miss the Oxblood into the Monza, though... The Barber Gain Changer is absolutely ridiculous. It will do light-medium overdrive almost all the way to distortion territory. The harmonics are rich and natural and never too over the top like they can be with the Oxblood. The bottom end remains tight, the EQ switch will let the pedal remain neutral in the mix or give you a slight Tubesceamer-esque mid range bump depending on how its set. The deal sealer for me is that the pedal has more of a smooth, American voiced overdrive to it. It truly feels like an extension of the Therapy, just like the Z Drive feels like an extension of the Maz. When I stepped on the Oxblood, I always knew I was kicking on a pedal... The Gain Changer is a keeper, for sure... Great description and info! I like the fact that you sold the Oxblood and picked up a few bucks on the Gain Changer. Glad you found your tone! I'm sure I'll be hunting down something else in six months...
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Post by nicholas on Mar 30, 2016 17:50:16 GMT -7
I'm a pretty big fan of Bearfoot pedals. I have them all. I've really been liking the Emerald Green DM. What's so cool about it is that it has a Vox vibe. So with it set low it seems to impart a Vox flavor without adding much, if any dirt. Then I run a regular Tube Screamer in front of it for more dirt. The EGDM is a super cool pedal cleanish or super fuzzy dirty. One of my favorites for sure. Sounds excellent with the Therapy or JAZ.
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Post by fishman on Apr 9, 2016 14:52:19 GMT -7
Use original Marshall blues breaker pedal...works well
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Post by Faze on Aug 29, 2016 21:23:54 GMT -7
Anybody using dirt pedals with your Therapy's??? I have my Therapy dialed similarly to how I dial in the Maz (right at the breakup threshold) and I'm using the Z Drive and Oxblood with mine. Looking for a slightly different flavor of drive, maybe something a little smoother than the Z drive, without the big mid-hump of the Oxblood. For the record, I love the mid-hump, but I'd just like something a little different. What have you tried and what has worked well for you??? It seems there are so many options these days that I wind up on YouTube with my head spinning... I like the ramble fx marvel drive and the J rocket archer icon also like my fulltone 69 fuzz they all sound good even stacked together.
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