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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 11:10:51 GMT -7
Anybody using dirt pedals with your Therapy's???
I have my Therapy dialed similarly to how I dial in the Maz (right at the breakup threshold) and I'm using the Z Drive and Oxblood with mine. Looking for a slightly different flavor of drive, maybe something a little smoother than the Z drive, without the big mid-hump of the Oxblood. For the record, I love the mid-hump, but I'd just like something a little different.
What have you tried and what has worked well for you??? It seems there are so many options these days that I wind up on YouTube with my head spinning...
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Post by southmusic70 on Mar 14, 2016 11:41:48 GMT -7
I used an Xotic RC into my Therapy on a job last week, and I thought it sounded pretty good. I had the amp set right at breakup, and the AC set to push it slightly past that point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 11:51:14 GMT -7
That's definitely on my list, along with the new SH RC Booster. I had a BB Comp that I ditched when I got the Z Drive, but I did enjoy that pedal. There was just a lot of overlap between the Z Drive and the BB.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 14, 2016 12:44:22 GMT -7
I pulled out my OCD v4 today and it rocked the Therapy (2x10 open back Z cab). 335 was right on the verge of feedback and it is a whole buncha fun. Then I hit the front end of the OCD with my RC Booster and took it right over the top.
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Post by daicapp on Mar 14, 2016 13:28:58 GMT -7
depending on what I'm after I'll use either my Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret but more often I'll just go for fuzz from my Devi Ever Torn's Peaker. I prefer the amp a touch broken up and then add fuzz rather than clean and then just adding OD hence my preference for the Devi Ever...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 14:08:03 GMT -7
I pulled out my OCD v4 today and it rocked the Therapy (2x10 open back Z cab). 335 was right on the verge of feedback and it is a whole buncha fun. Then I hit the front end of the OCD with my RC Booster and took it right over the top. Ooooohhh, that sounds wonderful. I'm thinking I should just grab an RC Booster. Those never go to waste...
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Post by ss "Shane" on Mar 14, 2016 14:54:27 GMT -7
I like to keep an extremely minimal pedal board. One pedal I can't live without is the Boss Blues Driver. I've had it for many years and even keep a back BD in my bag. 80% of my patron tone compliments have been when the BD was running. It works great with my compressor too. It does it all for me.
Now I just picked up the Paisley Drive but to me it's much more of a Tele bridge pickup pedal. It does the Tele thing beautifully.
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Post by mangoman on Mar 14, 2016 16:14:58 GMT -7
I really like the FD3 and the KTR through my last one. The new one will get the run with the Helix.
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Post by walt on Mar 14, 2016 18:24:43 GMT -7
Before I got the Z drive I loved the Barber Gain Changer with the Therapy-like a channel switch once it's dialed in right-especially with single coils.Really lets the guitar and amp do their things,just adds some grit.I'm probably gonna put it back on my board so I have 3 OD choices.
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Post by JeffG on Mar 15, 2016 12:20:28 GMT -7
My sound 95% of the time is an RC booster only to drive the signal just a little into a Tim. The sound is just barely clean going into the Tim and I get the dirt from the Tim. It's a lovely, lovely tone.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 15, 2016 15:20:23 GMT -7
Forgive me for a slight thread derailment, but I did some searching and found that the RC Booster and the AC Booster are very, very close in design. The AC has a couple more clipping diodes (going from memory here, may be 4 more) and the drive potentiometer is 500K ohms. The RC has a 250K drive pot. You know where this is going...change the drive pot in the RC to 500K ohms and you double the drive...and the real cool thing about this mod is that your RC booster will behave exactly as it did before, until you get over halfway up on the drive control. Then it just adds more drive. It's very cool, sounds great, and it's easily reversible should you decide to go back. Try it and thank me later!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 16:39:02 GMT -7
Forgive me for a slight thread derailment, but I did some searching and found that the RC Booster and the AC Booster are very, very close in design. The AC has a couple more clipping diodes (going from memory here, may be 4 more) and the drive potentiometer is 500K ohms. The RC has a 250K drive pot. You know where this is going...change the drive pot in the RC to 500K ohms and you double the drive...and the real cool thing about this mod is that your RC booster will behave exactly as it did before, until you get over halfway up on the drive control. Then it just adds more drive. It's very cool, sounds great, and it's easily reversible should you decide to go back. Try it and thank me later! That's one of the reasons why I was attracted to the new LE Scott Henderson RC Booster. It has a second gain channel on top of what the original RC offers. I don't want ultra high gain, but I do have a tendency to enjoy modern-ish gain from time to time, a la an old school Mesa Maverick or the modern setting on the Bogner Atma or Suhr Corso. Here's what I'm on the prowl for: - Xotic SH Booster - Xotic AC Booster - Keeley Red Dirt Germanium - Wampler Sovereign (more of a distortion box) - Barber Gain Changer (or something Barber, very hard to find around town)
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Mar 16, 2016 10:10:54 GMT -7
I'm using a fulldrive, and ocd, and plimsoul and the therapy loves them all. Each is set for a separate kind of tone so it's like having a "4 channel" amp.
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Post by JasonM on Mar 16, 2016 11:18:51 GMT -7
I have only had the Analogman KOT while I have had my Therapy and it sounds really good with it when I use an OD pedal. I do like setting up the Therapy for a bit of OD when I dig in and then having the boost side, OD side, and both sides on of the KOT available for 4 separate tonal options.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 15:41:03 GMT -7
OK, well, I'm down to either the Red Dirt Germanium or a new entry, the Earthquaker Palisades. The AC Booster didn't have enough gain for me to make room for it on the board and the LE RC Booster is a bit hyped. I'd probably be better served grabbing a regular used RC Booster on eBay.
The versatility of the Palisades has me intrigued, but also a bit intimidated. We all know Earthquaker makes some good stuff, I just need to find one to play...
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Post by zwak on Mar 17, 2016 9:06:26 GMT -7
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 20, 2016 1:02:40 GMT -7
You'll get as many answers as there are dirt pedals on this one!! I use 3x drive pedals, all Xotic (I just like 'em!!) RC to push a hottish amp over the top (and this I think would be ideal for your quest as it does not have a mid hump or focus at all, and with onboard Treble and Bass EQ you can dial out the mids altogether if you wish) BB (with the RC) for real dirt and an almost fuzz like effect, without all the fuzz pedal downside, but the BB is quite mid-focussed, so not what you need here EP - for solo boost. Adds thickness and punch for solos. LOVE IT! Good luck making your mind up!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 20:11:04 GMT -7
You'll get as many answers as there are dirt pedals on this one!! I use 3x drive pedals, all Xotic (I just like 'em!!) RC to push a hottish amp over the top (and this I think would be ideal for your quest as it does not have a mid hump or focus at all, and with onboard Treble and Bass EQ you can dial out the mids altogether if you wish) BB (with the RC) for real dirt and an almost fuzz like effect, without all the fuzz pedal downside, but the BB is quite mid-focussed, so not what you need here EP - for solo boost. Adds thickness and punch for solos. LOVE IT! Good luck making your mind up!! I'm more confused today than I was a week ago. The Palisades was way too much, too many options and dials for my liking. I may grab a Gain Changer and go from there...
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Post by simpleton on Mar 20, 2016 22:50:50 GMT -7
I've been using an Xotic SL for my drive. It sounds great with the Therapy's gain structure, since both are Marshall esk.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 21, 2016 0:04:16 GMT -7
I've been using an Xotic SL for my drive. It sounds great with the Therapy's gain structure, since both are Marshall esk. and this is the other pedal in my drawer which might dislodge the BB.........I haven't tried it yet. I have a self-imposed rule - only one dirt pedal on my board. I don't mind a clean pedal or two, but only one dirt pedal...........
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Post by simpleton on Mar 21, 2016 10:32:25 GMT -7
I've been using an Xotic SL for my drive. It sounds great with the Therapy's gain structure, since both are Marshall esk. and this is the other pedal in my drawer which might dislodge the BB.........I haven't tried it yet. I have a self-imposed rule - only one dirt pedal on my board. I don't mind a clean pedal or two, but only one dirt pedal........... One dirt, one fuzz, one modulation, one delay, one reverb.....that is my recipe for sonic exploration. The SL matches the Therapy overdrive tones very well and is designed to be run into an already dirty amp. But I too resist the overdrive stacking route...I think I've stripped down as far as I can go to connect to playing more than pedals...but fuzz is more needed for me over a drive as the Therapy can cover the drive... fuzz, delay, reverb..that is my final answer. Now, back on track....I have only been using the SL for a month maybe, and I'm starting to figure out more of the voices...it can get almost fuzz like. Very cool pedal, and my only dirt owned right now. The Monza was my dirty sound and that is impossible to replace with a pedal BUT the Therapy with the SL sounds so muscular and full....very satisfying.
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Post by doctorice on Mar 21, 2016 11:04:59 GMT -7
I may grab a Gain Changer and go from there... GC and the Keeley Red Dirt, which you mentioned above, are both really nice. I had both on board prior to getting the Z Drive. (I tend to hang on to OD pedals, just 'cuz.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 21, 2016 13:52:30 GMT -7
I may grab a Gain Changer and go from there... GC and the Keeley Red Dirt, which you mentioned above, are both really nice. I had both on board prior to getting the Z Drive. (I tend to hang on to OD pedals, just 'cuz. I have found that OD pedals tend to multiply like rabbits once you have a couple of 'em.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 14:29:03 GMT -7
I had the chance today to swap around some preamp tubes. I found the trusty Mullard CV4004 in V1 and a Sovtek LPS in V2 take the Z Drive much better than either the JJ or the Ruby did in those spots. Always fun to experiment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 14:30:10 GMT -7
GC and the Keeley Red Dirt, which you mentioned above, are both really nice. I had both on board prior to getting the Z Drive. (I tend to hang on to OD pedals, just 'cuz. I have found that OD pedals tend to multiply like rabbits once you have a couple of 'em. I concur! They're so much fun and the choices are simply astounding...
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Post by daveyk on Mar 21, 2016 17:29:09 GMT -7
I'm more confused today than I was a week ago. The Palisades was way too much, too many options and dials for my liking. I may grab a Gain Changer and go from there... Gain Changer is an excellent drive! I used it as a really light drive, but it can get super hairy if you want that too. I ended up selling it because for lighter gain stuff i liked my JHS Morning Glory just a little bit better. Check out the new version of the Morning Glory. It has a gain switch to up the amount of overdrive if you want something heavier. One pedal that never ceases to impress me is the Bondi Sick As overdrive. It has a toggle to switch between two voices. One is sort of a Klon-ish setting (but more amp like) and the other is more of an open, almost tweed sounding setting. It also has active bass and treble controls!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 18:24:30 GMT -7
I'm more confused today than I was a week ago. The Palisades was way too much, too many options and dials for my liking. I may grab a Gain Changer and go from there... Gain Changer is an excellent drive! I used it as a really light drive, but it can get super hairy if you want that too. I ended up selling it because for lighter gain stuff i liked my JHS Morning Glory just a little bit better. Check out the new version of the Morning Glory. It has a gain switch to up the amount of overdrive if you want something heavier. One pedal that never ceases to impress me is the Bondi Sick As overdrive. It has a toggle to switch between two voices. One is sort of a Klon-ish setting (but more amp like) and the other is more of an open, almost tweed sounding setting. It also has active bass and treble controls! I just got a smoking deal on a Gain Changer on Reverb. I'm not going to say how much I paid for it because if I don't jive with it, I will try to sell it here for a profit... All joking aside, I'm looking forward to gigging with it this weekend. Up next may be that new Morning Glory or the new Sweet Honey Deluxe when that drops...
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Post by walt on Mar 21, 2016 18:29:20 GMT -7
The gain changer is a keeper-I still have mine,even though I am using the z-drive since the summer.It is an all time classic OD pedal.Not to flap my mouth with too much Hyperbole,but it's the Tweed Deluxe of pedals-not to say it sounds exactly like a Tweed,more like it's an all time classic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 18:34:34 GMT -7
The gain changer is a keeper-I still have mine,even though I am using the z-drive since the summer.It is an all time classic OD pedal.Not to flap my mouth with too much Hyperbole,but it's the Tweed Deluxe of pedals-not to say it sounds exactly like a Tweed,more like it's an all time classic. That's good to hear. It's passed two out of three tests: I liked what I heard on the YouTube clips and it seems that no one, absolutely no one, has anything bad to say about Barber products. Number three is the tough one, testing it with your own rig. I feel pretty good, though!
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Post by doctorice on Mar 22, 2016 7:08:59 GMT -7
The gain changer is a keeper-I still have mine,even though I am using the z-drive since the summer.It is an all time classic OD pedal.Not to flap my mouth with too much Hyperbole,but it's the Tweed Deluxe of pedals-not to say it sounds exactly like a Tweed,more like it's an all time classic. That's good to hear. It's passed two out of three tests: I liked what I heard on the YouTube clips and it seems that no one, absolutely no one, has anything bad to say about Barber products. Number three is the tough one, testing it with your own rig. I feel pretty good, though! I think there's enough flexibility in the GC to accommodate most any rig, Frank. You likely will be able to get it there.
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