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Post by henryjurstin13 on Jan 25, 2016 12:23:54 GMT -7
I know, I know... Monza is unique/special/awesome/perfect/etc.... but, what else is out there that is very similar to the Monza? When I plugged into the only one I've tried, it blew me away. I was overly impressed, honestly. What else should I look at, that might be very similar tone-wise to this tiny beast?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 12:31:17 GMT -7
Friedman Pink Taco, Marshall 1974x, Orange OR15 (Chinese made junk, IMO, but it has a cool tone to it for 15W), Blackstar probably has something as well, but I'm not familiar with them much.
The Pink Taco is such an awesome little amp. If it came in a combo, I may have, just may have (shhhhhh), purchased that.
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Post by Maddog on Jan 25, 2016 16:23:23 GMT -7
Similar to the Monza? Maybe a 200 watt Marshall Major Full Stack on "11."
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Post by djcakadave on Jan 25, 2016 18:43:35 GMT -7
Mazerati GT............End of story
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 25, 2016 18:58:35 GMT -7
SRZ 65 if you are looking for a whole lot of Z with an attitude!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 25, 2016 18:59:58 GMT -7
I know, I know... Monza is unique/special/awesome/perfect/etc.... but, what else is out there that is very similar to the Monza? When I plugged into the only one I've tried, it blew me away. I was overly impressed, honestly. What else should I look at, that might be very similar tone-wise to this tiny beast? What kind of music do you play? That we give us a good idea regarding what Zs might work for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 19:27:53 GMT -7
SRZ 65 if you are looking for a whole lot of Z with an attitude! Never played one of those, only heard clips, but I can only imagine how loud that beast is!!! JCM killer!!!
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Post by henryjurstin13 on Jan 25, 2016 20:16:41 GMT -7
I know, I know... Monza is unique/special/awesome/perfect/etc.... but, what else is out there that is very similar to the Monza? When I plugged into the only one I've tried, it blew me away. I was overly impressed, honestly. What else should I look at, that might be very similar tone-wise to this tiny beast? What kind of music do you play? That we give us a good idea regarding what Zs might work for you. I'm focused mostly on blues/rock tones, with a background in the jamband world (idolizing Warren Haynes, Jimmy Herring, & similar). My main guitar is currently a PRS DGT thru a few pedals into a PRS H > 2x12 MojoTone Slant w/Cannabis Rex cones (also have a Carr Slant6V and other guitars). I like compressed gain, not too high gain -- but plenty of compressed dirt. I really dig David Grissom's tones quite a bit. I was with a buddy who was amp shopping & just by chance turned on the Monza. I had problems stepping away from it, I just kept thinking "WOW, this amp screams & cleans up great..." That guitar shop is a couple hours away, but I'll re-test that Monza (it was a 1x12 combo w/PPIMV) as soon as I get another chance. Since I've always been into a clean/dirty amp channel switcher (possibly outta habit & not just following my ears).... I got to wondering what else I should be looking at. This was my first Z to play through. I'll likely catch fire for it, but some of the other Z's just didn't do much for me that day. But, the Monza -- it was impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 20:55:28 GMT -7
What kind of music do you play? That we give us a good idea regarding what Zs might work for you. I'm focused mostly on blues/rock tones, with a background in the jamband world (idolizing Warren Haynes, Jimmy Herring, & similar). My main guitar is currently a PRS DGT thru a few pedals into a PRS H > 2x12 MojoTone Slant w/Cannabis Rex cones (also have a Carr Slant6V and other guitars). I like compressed gain, not too high gain -- but plenty of compressed dirt. I really dig David Grissom's tones quite a bit. I was with a buddy who was amp shopping & just by chance turned on the Monza. I had problems stepping away from it, I just kept thinking "WOW, this amp screams & cleans up great..." That guitar shop is a couple hours away, but I'll re-test that Monza (it was a 1x12 combo w/PPIMV) as soon as I get another chance. Since I've always been into a clean/dirty amp channel switcher (possibly outta habit & not just following my ears).... I got to wondering what else I should be looking at. This was my first Z to play through. I'll likely catch fire for it, but some of the other Z's just didn't do much for me that day. But, the Monza -- it was impressive. Once you get the Monza sound in your head, it's hard to get it out. Paired with a Creamback M, it's down right magical. I'm playing classic rock and hard rock and the way it sits in a band mix is second to none.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 26, 2016 18:28:01 GMT -7
What kind of music do you play? That we give us a good idea regarding what Zs might work for you. I'm focused mostly on blues/rock tones, with a background in the jamband world (idolizing Warren Haynes, Jimmy Herring, & similar). My main guitar is currently a PRS DGT thru a few pedals into a PRS H > 2x12 MojoTone Slant w/Cannabis Rex cones (also have a Carr Slant6V and other guitars). I like compressed gain, not too high gain -- but plenty of compressed dirt. I really dig David Grissom's tones quite a bit. I was with a buddy who was amp shopping & just by chance turned on the Monza. I had problems stepping away from it, I just kept thinking "WOW, this amp screams & cleans up great..." That guitar shop is a couple hours away, but I'll re-test that Monza (it was a 1x12 combo w/PPIMV) as soon as I get another chance. Since I've always been into a clean/dirty amp channel switcher (possibly outta habit & not just following my ears).... I got to wondering what else I should be looking at. This was my first Z to play through. I'll likely catch fire for it, but some of the other Z's just didn't do much for me that day. But, the Monza -- it was impressive. You probably want to try a MV Remedy as well. It's kind of Marshall Plexi sound that has hair and it cleans up nicely. With the EQ bypass engaged it get some really nice grit! BTW - where do you live? If it's anywhere near S.E. Michigan you can always drop by here - i probably have a better selection than most dealers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 18:41:23 GMT -7
Mike,
You have a better selection than my imagination!
Respectfully,
Pete.
(I'm crying a little right now)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 19:10:17 GMT -7
I'm focused mostly on blues/rock tones, with a background in the jamband world (idolizing Warren Haynes, Jimmy Herring, & similar). My main guitar is currently a PRS DGT thru a few pedals into a PRS H > 2x12 MojoTone Slant w/Cannabis Rex cones (also have a Carr Slant6V and other guitars). I like compressed gain, not too high gain -- but plenty of compressed dirt. I really dig David Grissom's tones quite a bit. I was with a buddy who was amp shopping & just by chance turned on the Monza. I had problems stepping away from it, I just kept thinking "WOW, this amp screams & cleans up great..." That guitar shop is a couple hours away, but I'll re-test that Monza (it was a 1x12 combo w/PPIMV) as soon as I get another chance. Since I've always been into a clean/dirty amp channel switcher (possibly outta habit & not just following my ears).... I got to wondering what else I should be looking at. This was my first Z to play through. I'll likely catch fire for it, but some of the other Z's just didn't do much for me that day. But, the Monza -- it was impressive. You probably want to try a MV Remedy as well. It's kind of Marshall Plexi sound that has hair and it cleans up nicely. With the EQ bypass engaged it get some really nice grit! BTW - where do you live? If it's anywhere near S.E. Michigan you can always drop by here - i probably have a better selection than most dealers. I have to go to Lansing for work in May. Can I just have my company write you a check and I'll sleep in your basement for three days?!?!?!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 26, 2016 19:25:46 GMT -7
You probably want to try a MV Remedy as well. It's kind of Marshall Plexi sound that has hair and it cleans up nicely. With the EQ bypass engaged it get some really nice grit! BTW - where do you live? If it's anywhere near S.E. Michigan you can always drop by here - i probably have a better selection than most dealers. I have to go to Lansing for work in May. Can I just have my company write you a check and I'll sleep in your basement for three days?!?!?! You have a standing invitation to visit the muZum when you are here. Only an hour from here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 19:52:39 GMT -7
I have to go to Lansing for work in May. Can I just have my company write you a check and I'll sleep in your basement for three days?!?!?! You have a standing invitation to visit the muZum when you are here. Only an hour from here. And that's why this place is the best!
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Post by simpleton on Jan 26, 2016 21:25:55 GMT -7
Well, I can get my Therapy to match the Monza pretty well. The two differences between them that stand out to me are 1). The Therapy holds up,better as the volume continues to go up where as the Monza compresses more and eventually becomes a glorious fuzz.
2). The Therapy can sound different but the Monza less so. The Monza has a more distinct flavor of tone where as the Therapy has a broader pallete of colors within its reach.
The Monza with your guitar and cab/speakers might be to dark and you might need different speakers if you use your existing cab....that's just my thoughts because most PRS I've owned were a bit darker sounding and C. Rex speakers are darker AND the Monza is a bit darker when cranked because of compression.
But like Irreversal said...the Monza tone is hard to get out of your head and it easily became my ideal lead sounding amp. I've used it mostly in a 1x10 but lately I've been craving a bigger cab for it.
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Post by henryjurstin13 on Jan 27, 2016 9:50:12 GMT -7
Sadly, I'm not close to the muZeum, thanks for the offer tho!!! I'll keep the Therapy/Remedy on my radar to checkout as well. And about the darkness, that's probably a fair assessment -- I like rolling tone knobs down quite a bit too. Guess I like the tonez extra dark, huh?
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Post by helmi on Jan 31, 2016 8:39:49 GMT -7
What kind of music do you play? That we give us a good idea regarding what Zs might work for you. I'm focused mostly on blues/rock tones, with a background in the jamband world (idolizing Warren Haynes, Jimmy Herring, & similar). My main guitar is currently a PRS DGT thru a few pedals into a PRS H welcome to the forum. it's nice to see another PRS user here!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 8:51:33 GMT -7
Friedman Pink Taco. Great little amp--basically a hot-rodded 20-watt Marshall. Gets very raunchy without being harsh, very usable tone-stack, excellent MV/V interaction, excellent loop for your delay pedal, etc. Great straight in or with pedals. Love mine.
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Post by henryjurstin13 on Feb 1, 2016 20:54:17 GMT -7
I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this.... but is there any reason to go head over combo for rattles? (tube rattles especially)
(edit) --- I'd assume most would advise to the HEAD format.
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Post by purpletele on Feb 1, 2016 21:08:31 GMT -7
Curious what your answer would be.
I would think it would depend on how you handle your gear and if that method was sustainable with regard to tube rattle.
I don't know this is true for anyone else, but I seem to handle the Head more delicately than a combo.
You would certainly be more susceptible to a tube rattle in a combo while playing. However, Head cabinets can have tube rattle from sitting on a speaker cabinet. Also, I learned on this very site that if you have tube rattle on a head cabinet you can put round felt pads on the feet and that will dampen the frequencies transmitted through the cabinet while being played at moderate to loud volume.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 1, 2016 21:13:57 GMT -7
I've not had any rattle from my Monza combo.
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Post by henryjurstin13 on Feb 1, 2016 21:16:48 GMT -7
Curious what your answer would be. I would think it would depend on how you handle your gear and if that method was sustainable with regard to tube rattle. I don't know this is true for anyone else, but I seem to handle the Head more delicately than a combo. You would certainly be more susceptible to a tube rattle in a combo while playing. However, Head cabinets can have tube rattle from sitting on a speaker cabinet. Also, I learned on this very site that if you have tube rattle on a head cabinet you can put round felt pads on the feet and that will dampen the frequencies transmitted through the cabinet while being played at moderate to loud volume. I don't knock my stuff around at all. Even when I was drunk & gigging til sunlight, I used cases/gigbags & stacked stuff right. I was never one to just throw it in the trailer.... I'm drawn to combos for simplicity, but my gut says go with a head. However, that Red Fang combo is callin' my name (possibly a lil stronger than the 1x12" combo!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 22:08:03 GMT -7
Tube rings work wonders. Had a crazy rattle in my Maz 38, the rings took care of those. Both my Monza and Maz 18 shipped with tube rings already on them. No rattles to speak of, and I crank the Monza...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 22:31:42 GMT -7
Friedman Pink Taco. Great little amp--basically a hot-rodded 20-watt Marshall. Gets very raunchy without being harsh, very usable tone-stack, excellent MV/V interaction, excellent loop for your delay pedal, etc. Great straight in or with pedals. Love mine. Nice to see some more love for the Pink Taco. I think the PT and the Monza are two of the most underrated amps out there today...
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Post by henryjurstin13 on Feb 9, 2016 10:57:13 GMT -7
I think the Pink Taco is gonna be too far over the top for my tonal desires...
I'm still kicking myself that my bass wasn't sold in time for that last 1x10 combo that went at a great price. If you see/know of a great Monza deal (head or combo) --- shoot me a message please!!! (hope that isn't in violation of the forums)
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Post by purpletele on Feb 9, 2016 13:24:59 GMT -7
I'll bet you can talk Irreversal into selling his Monza
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Post by Stephen on Feb 9, 2016 13:27:59 GMT -7
[quote author=" purpletele" I'm drawn to combos for simplicity, but my gut says go with a head. However, that Red Fang combo is callin' my name (possibly a lil stronger than the 1x12" combo!)[/quote] The 1-10 Monza combo is a monster!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 13:54:23 GMT -7
I'll bet you can talk Irreversal into selling his Monza I'd consider it. I think I'm going to go back to running a stereo rig with the Therapy and the Maz. Going to get a 2x10 to run with the Maz and run the Therapy through the Z12.
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Post by purpletele on Feb 9, 2016 14:08:32 GMT -7
I'll bet you can talk Irreversal into selling his Monza I'd consider it. I think I'm going to go back to running a stereo rig with the Therapy and the Maz. Going to get a 2x10 to run with the Maz and run the Therapy through the Z12. Now that would be spectacular. I would just like to hit a couple of sweet chords and feel that, like today's favorite, the Bowie C with an added G.
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Post by supernaut on Mar 20, 2016 12:14:12 GMT -7
There is just "something" special, almost "magical" about that 1x10 Red Fang Alnico combo (curious if it would still be there with the Red Fang ceramic?). I plugged in to a 12" Celestian G-12 30 Heritage, and it sounded less "Z-ish" to me. I always call the Monza "A rock 'n' roll BEAST"
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