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Post by hpdj on Jun 26, 2015 0:16:43 GMT -7
Nice to see this thread has been helpful to some other folks, that makes me happy... I'm glad I started it!
Now I'm curious about adding a buffer at the beginning of my chain. Dergit, do you think a regular old buffered pedal would work, or did you only notice an improvement with a dedicated buffer right after the guitar?
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Jun 26, 2015 6:21:57 GMT -7
I didn't toy around with it too much because my pedalboard is rather simple. The only buffered pedal would be the RYRA Klone and putting that before tuner, volume and comp didn't seem to make a lot of sense.
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Post by hpdj on Jun 26, 2015 7:58:54 GMT -7
OK gotcha... Makes sense.. I'll experiment and see what I find when I have a chance. As I mentioned in a previous post, the buffer in my effects loop helps me get about 80-90 % of the tone I would get plugging straight into my amp with no effects at all. Maybe a buffer at the beginning will help bring that percentage to 100!
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Jun 26, 2015 9:45:24 GMT -7
I mean... you have a T1M buffer. Just skip the fx loop temporarily and toy around with that one at the start and a buffered pedal at the start. Then you'll know whether it's worth buying a second one.
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Post by hpdj on Jun 26, 2015 21:56:55 GMT -7
Simple logic, thanks
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Post by SonoftheBlues on Sept 21, 2015 1:21:16 GMT -7
Hi,
I've tried a JHS Little Black buffer and a MXR MC401 CAE Boost / Line Driver with a short patch cable in the effect loop and yes... The difference is day and night. But... I also get a very noticeable hum. I've tried all possible cables, power supplies etc, but still hum. Without the buffer, almost no hum.
So, why do I have that hum and I don't read any complains here?
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Sept 21, 2015 5:19:39 GMT -7
No hum here...
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Post by SonoftheBlues on Sept 23, 2015 4:15:12 GMT -7
I'm happy for you but it isn't really helping me.
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Post by Big Andy on Sept 23, 2015 10:15:30 GMT -7
The act of buffering (changing from high impedance to low) *shouldn't* cause a hum. That's why you've not read any complaints about it. So that means it's something unique to your setup. Keep things simple and eliminate the variables to troubleshoot the reason you're getting a hum.
- First, don't put anything in the loop and just do guitar->cable->amp. Confirm you have no hum. - Next, add just a cable in the loop. So from Send->cable->Return. Confirm you have no hum. - Next, add just the buffer (start with the JHS one you mentioned) to the loop. So from Send->cable->buffer->cable->Return. The length of the cables won't matter in this particular case because we don't care about tone loss at this point. We just care that there's no hum. Also, if you have the ability to power the buffer with just a battery in some way, then do it. Otherwise, make sure the buffer is being powered by an isolated power supply that's not powering anything else. If you can put some physical distance between the amp and the buffer then do it to eliminate bleed-over issues.
If you still have a hum, then most likely you've either got a bad cable, bad power supply (or ps cable), a bad buffer, or interference from some other source. Also try different power outlets.
If you don't have a hum then you have a known good staring point. So replace one thing at a time in the signal chain and test the results until you have your desired setup and tone.
I personally do the following and have no hum at all and no tone loss. I'm using Planet Waves cables and a simple T1M buffer powered using a Planet Waves boss-style wall wart power supply plugged into a power strip going into an outlet. The chain is Send->6 inch cable->buffer->30 foot cable->various delay and reverb pedals and patch cables-> 30 foot cable->Return.
Good luck!
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Post by SonoftheBlues on Sept 24, 2015 8:41:24 GMT -7
Thanks a lot Big Andy, I'll give it a try this weekend and will report back.
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Sept 25, 2015 7:53:15 GMT -7
I'm happy for you but it isn't really helping me. It was meant to answer your question as to why you don't read any complains here.
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