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Post by sanders4617 on Mar 23, 2015 19:42:55 GMT -7
For those who have played both, how does the 1x12 combo of the Z Wreck compare with the head/cab (2x12) setup? They are all expensive, but is it worth the extra grand or whatever to get the 2x12 cab?
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Post by muZician on Mar 23, 2015 23:34:18 GMT -7
it's a matter of taste. I always choose head+cab
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Post by bryan0418 on Mar 24, 2015 4:54:16 GMT -7
I never tried the combo but the 2x12 that comes with the silver Z Wreck is specifically made for the amp. The cabinet has an oval cutout in back and my guess is it is tuned specific to the amp. I have run my Z Wreck head into my 1x12 Mazerati combo speaker with a Celestion Gold. It sounds good but not as big as the 2x12. Then again, if you are playing live and the amp is mic'ed, I doubt the people could hear a difference.
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Post by doctorice on Mar 24, 2015 6:46:51 GMT -7
The head+cab is a bit louder due to the dual speakers. (Combo has a 16-ohm Gold; cab is Blue and Gold, each 8 ohms, wired in series.) To my ears, the head+cab also has a little more authority or punch, taking into account the volume difference.
Apart from (my perception of) sonic difference, there's the weight and size issue. The combo weighs in at 42 lbs. and has, of course, a smaller footprint, which can make a difference in some venues. With the head+cab you get hardwood fronts as well. These are normally uncharges on Z amps, but not available on the Wreck combo due to, I assume, its top-load design.
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Post by TB72 on Mar 24, 2015 8:24:26 GMT -7
The head+cab is a bit louder due to the dual speakers. (Combo has a 16-ohm Gold; cab is Blue and Gold, each 8 ohms, wired in series.) To my ears, the head+cab also has a little more authority or punch, taking into account the volume difference. Apart from (my perception of) sonic difference, there's the weight and size issue. The combo weighs in at 42 lbs. and has, of course, a smaller footprint, which can make a difference in some venues. With the head+cab you get hardwood fronts as well. These are normally uncharges on Z amps, but not available on the Wreck combo due to, I assume, its top-load design. Combo has an 8-Ohm Gold...at least that's what mine came with.
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Post by markT on Mar 24, 2015 8:52:31 GMT -7
I've had both and while the original head/cab is louder, as doctorice said above, and glorious in its own right, I prefer the combo. It has a cab that was designed especially for it as well and due to the thin walled, birch, drum shell like, light weight cab...it seemed to breathe better to my ears. It even has a deeper low end to my ears, believe it or not.
Mine came with a 16 ohm Gold as well. Z might have changed it up, or use whatever is readily available.
My suggestion would be if you are playing concerts & large stages the head/cab. Clubs & small stages combo.
I like the combo best.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Mar 24, 2015 9:37:48 GMT -7
I gotta think that the 2x12 cabinet specific to the Z-wreck "set" weighs nearly the same as the 1x12 combo (or even more). Also taking into account that the combo cab is a "lightweight" design by the Doc specifically for that amp... I think I'd go with the combo. Plus it's pretty snazzy-looking in that blue & brown package. Bonus: Golds sound better when they're pushed more, so the 1x12 setup will push that Gold more than in the 2x12.
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Post by telejas on Mar 24, 2015 11:28:56 GMT -7
I have the head/cab, that I played for about a year.....I recently acquired a 1x12 combo cab (semi-local Craigslist find) and have played with the combo for the last 4 months. My thoughts/comparisons: I was REALLY afraid when I switched out from the head/cab to the combo that it'd loose the Z-Wreck "Mojo".... But, it didn't! They both sound like a Z-Wreck at the end of the day. The 1x12 combo cab seems to have a little more "feel" to it and, believe it or not, more low end. This may be because you can turn the volume up a little more vs a 2x12. For me, the 2x12 was almost a waste of tone at most of the clubs I've been playing lately and I've had to really crank the Brake-lite down to get the tone I wanted and then it felt too squished. If I were playing more large shows, I'd probably stick with the head/2x12.... But since 80% of my shows are at clubs that hold less than 250 people, the 1x12 combo works best for me (and I still need to use my Brake-lite). For the other 20% of the shows I play, that are bigger, I get to open up the Z-Wreck without a Brake-lite. So for me, it is more of a convenience thing, but it just so happens that the combo sounds REALLY amazing! FYI: They both have the same "WOW" factor when you set them on stage ****DISCLAIMER***** My 2x12 cab was used and didn't come with the Gold/Blue set up... It had a Gold/Weber Blue Dog, which I soon swapped out and ran 2 Golds. So I've never actually heard the 2x12 cab the way it's supposed to sound.
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Post by sanders4617 on Mar 24, 2015 20:06:16 GMT -7
Thanks guys. I'll have to say that Combo might be the one for me. For any large venue, you're gonna mic - so as long as I'm able to get the Z Wreck tone, I'd be happy with a combo.
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Post by jlowder23 on Mar 24, 2015 20:10:10 GMT -7
Thanks guys. I'll have to say that Combo might be the one for me. For any large venue, you're gonna mic - so as long as I'm able to get the Z Wreck tone, I'd be happy with a combo. I just so happen to have a mint condition combo for sale at a great price on the bst forum.
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Post by LT on Mar 25, 2015 7:20:59 GMT -7
^^^ Good Z-bro to do business with…..just sayin'
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