Smashies
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Post by Smashies on Mar 20, 2015 10:05:47 GMT -7
Do any of y'all use a treble booster with your Maz 18? If so, hit me with the deets! What TB pedal do you use? What speaker(s)? Typical vol/eq/cut settings? Pedal(s) paired with the amp and TB?
Also, if any of you have tried a TB with the Maz and opted not to use it, please share as well.
I play through a Maz 18 with a celestion blue and the bottom end can get pretty muddy when overdriven too hard. Thankfully, my Timmy pedal's bass cut knob helps this situation a lot, but I'm curious about the distinct tonal 'flavor' a treble booster offers (i.e. driving mid-high frequencies more so than bottom end frequencies as opposed to a full-spectrum boost or, with the Timmy, using the 'cut' approach). Some people describe a treble boost's effect as a "fuzz lite" with the obvious emphasis on the top end.
Anywho, would love to hear any thoughts, comments, musings, etc. Thanks!
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Post by llew on Mar 20, 2015 10:34:15 GMT -7
Not a treble booster as such but the fulltone fatboost is awesome with the maz.Pushes the amp into natural overdrive but doesn't change the basic tone of the amp.HIghly recommended.
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Post by texan2step on Mar 21, 2015 7:44:47 GMT -7
The EP Booster is great! I set my cut low and run a warmer sound. Then when I want more high end I kick in the EP set at unity on the vintage setting. Really nice sounds! And it's cheap.
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Post by Stephen on Mar 21, 2015 8:35:23 GMT -7
I use a Strymon OB.1. It is a combination compressor and boost. I play stratocaster guitars and I keep the compressor on all the time. I set the boost according to the recommendations for "single coil boost" by Strymon. It works great and it runs on a 9v battery so it's very convenient to use by itself.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 21, 2015 11:02:41 GMT -7
Not small, or cheap, or easy to find but I reall like my Flynn Amps "Rory Gallagher's Hawk" pedal - amazing tone. They basically recreated RG's pedal after tearing down his actual pedal.
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Post by twangplank on Mar 21, 2015 12:16:05 GMT -7
I've been using the fat boost by fulltone for a while now and am really pleased since I changed to a set of ten inch warehouse green berets. It does exactly what he said. It gave great natural overdrive.
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Post by rckline on Mar 21, 2015 13:28:11 GMT -7
I have a 12" Celestion blue in my Maz 18, and the low-end thing is just how the speaker sounds. The Treble-booster pedal will help cut the flab, definitely.
First tried an aNaLoGmAn Beano Boost to check out the whole Treble-Booster thing. I am now in love. When I first heard of a "treble-booster" pedal, I have to admit that my first thought was "I don't want my treble boosted". I was greatly mistaken in assuming how this specific "pedal-idea" worked. I now own a /13 Dyna-ranger as well, and I'm so happy with my lead tone, I feel the pedals actually helped bring me to the next level of lead guitar...
You might head to Jext-Telez for modded TB's-He put OC44 yellowjackets in the 2 previously mentioned pedals. Wow.
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Post by rckline on Mar 21, 2015 13:32:18 GMT -7
not a treble-booster, but I have heard really good(great even) things about the Fulltone Fat-Boost...
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Post by zed on Mar 21, 2015 16:09:50 GMT -7
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Post by walt on Mar 21, 2015 19:38:32 GMT -7
I was wondering if the OP was trying to replicate RG's tone-FFS,with a maz(ac 15) and treble booster(rangemaster)Who wouldn't?listen to the intro of Let Me In-who wouldn't want to sound like that?OP-i'd go with Jaguar Mike's recommendation.Rock on,and aim high. RG was one of the best,is one of the best to aim for.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 21, 2015 20:28:20 GMT -7
Here's a demo of the Hawk
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Post by donnie on Mar 21, 2015 21:34:36 GMT -7
I occasionally use a Beano Boost. Puts a grin on my face every time!I instantly jump into Zeppelin's 'Custard Pie'. I've got a Maz 2-10" w/'verb.
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Post by dergit (Markus) on Mar 22, 2015 7:08:55 GMT -7
I use three pedals for different kinds of boost with my MAZ 18 NR:
- Xotic SP Compressor for mostly clean but massive sustain (for the odd solo) - set to low compression and volume and blend at about 1 o'clock - Xotic EP Booster for volume boost, presence and a touch of extra drive - works great at just 9-10 o'clock - Electro Harmonix Soul Food (Klon Centaur style drive) at very moderate settings (volume at 1 o'clock, drive at 9 o'clock and treble at noon)
If I combine these together and use the volume pedal / knob on the guitar properly, I get all kinds of control over drive and volume, just takes some getting to know each pedal and your amp (and tubes...).
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Post by brayks on Mar 22, 2015 9:30:28 GMT -7
The Hawk Boost is an amazing pedal with a TON of gain.
I see the demo showing with the volume at max. He must of had his guitar volume way low and/or his amp volume low.
I love my Hawk but, for me at gig-levels the volume on this monster is about at 1; and I don't mean 1 o'clock.
It works great as an overdrive and a treble boost. We cover three Rory tunes (Bad Penny, Do You Read Me & Calling Card) and this pedal nails the tone.
It still remains my favorite pedal.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 22, 2015 13:47:12 GMT -7
The Hawk Boost is an amazing pedal with a TON of gain. I see the demo showing with the volume at max. He must of had his guitar volume way low and/or his amp volume low. I love my Hawk but, for me at gig-levels the volume on this monster is about at 1; and I don't mean 1 o'clock. It works great as an overdrive and a treble boost. We cover three Rory tunes (Bad Penny, Do You Read Me & Calling Card) and this pedal nails the tone. It still remains my favorite pedal. I was waiting for you to chime in Steve!
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Post by limenine on Mar 23, 2015 6:27:20 GMT -7
I'm afraid I don't have any direct Maz experience, but I do have and really like a treble booster (swart atomic boost). It sounds best to me when the amp is cooking on it's own first, and then it adds it's own growl to the party. Trying to use it on classic clean 'pedal platform' amps is not so great...
Most modern takes on the rangemaster allow for a full range boost or a treble boost, and on mine I find the classic treble boost best with my les paul shaped guitar, and the full boost is helpful for my strat shaped device.
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Post by Smashies on Mar 23, 2015 7:06:57 GMT -7
I have a 12" Celestion blue in my Maz 18, and the low-end thing is just how the speaker sounds. The Treble-booster pedal will help cut the flab, definitely. First tried an aNaLoGmAn Beano Boost to check out the whole Treble-Booster thing. I am now in love. When I first heard of a "treble-booster" pedal, I have to admit that my first thought was "I don't want my treble boosted". I was greatly mistaken in assuming how this specific "pedal-idea" worked. I now own a /13 Dyna-ranger as well, and I'm so happy with my lead tone, I feel the pedals actually helped bring me to the next level of lead guitar... You might head to Jext-Telez for modded TB's-He put OC44 yellowjackets in the 2 previously mentioned pedals. Wow. This is helpful! I really appreciate the input.
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Post by Smashies on Mar 23, 2015 7:10:36 GMT -7
I might approach Mike Piera about getting an Acolyte. A mutual follower on IG has one; it's a two-switcher with a Beano Boost on the left and a PoT on the right--he should have named it the "King of Beans"!. It would probably be the only thing to kick my KoT off my board since I already prefer the Timmy as the last pedal in my chain and, with that, I rarely use the yellow (boost) side of my KoT. With the Acolyte I'd keep the PoT side set to the OD setting. I wonder though...can he make it to where the Beano side is the first in the chain? Won't hurt to ask!
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Post by rckline on Mar 23, 2015 13:56:35 GMT -7
I might approach Mike Piera about getting an Acolyte. A mutual follower on IG has one; it's a two-switcher with a Beano Boost on the left and a PoT on the right--he should have named it the "King of Beans"!. It would probably be the only thing to kick my KoT off my board since I already prefer the Timmy as the last pedal in my chain and, with that, I rarely use the yellow (boost) side of my KoT. With the Acolyte I'd keep the PoT side set to the OD setting. I wonder though...can he make it to where the Beano side is the first in the chain? Won't hurt to ask! That one got by me-sounds like a fantastic idea. I would like to point out something which took me a few years to understand, as I was not playing a treble-booster, just imagining what it would sound like... A "boost" pedal is NOT the same as a "treble-booster". Check out aNaLoGmAn's site (beano boost) for a good explanation of how the TB works. The Treble-booster does much more than a simple "boost". It also does not sound good with a clean amp, which is why I recommend it for lead playing. Maybe I'll save someone a few months of sonic frustration. Try a real Treble-Booster. You will be amazed.
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Post by Smashies on Mar 24, 2015 7:02:02 GMT -7
I might approach Mike Piera about getting an Acolyte. A mutual follower on IG has one; it's a two-switcher with a Beano Boost on the left and a PoT on the right--he should have named it the "King of Beans"!. It would probably be the only thing to kick my KoT off my board since I already prefer the Timmy as the last pedal in my chain and, with that, I rarely use the yellow (boost) side of my KoT. With the Acolyte I'd keep the PoT side set to the OD setting. I wonder though...can he make it to where the Beano side is the first in the chain? Won't hurt to ask! That one got by me-sounds like a fantastic idea. I would like to point out something which took me a few years to understand, as I was not playing a treble-booster, just imagining what it would sound like... A "boost" pedal is NOT the same as a "treble-booster". Check out aNaLoGmAn's site (beano boost) for a good explanation of how the TB works. The Treble-booster does much more than a simple "boost". It also does not sound good with a clean amp, which is why I recommend it for lead playing. Maybe I'll save someone a few months of sonic frustration. Try a real Treble-Booster. You will be amazed. You said it, buddy! For way too long, I was very misunderstood about what a TB pedal does. At first, I thought, "So, it's an EQ pedal solely for your treble frequencies...and it only allows you to boost them cleanly. No thanks." Boy, was I outrageously mistaken. As for the pedal's strong suit (i.e., being played through an amp at least on the verge of breakup, if not well into breakup territory): too many demo videos for treble boosters do the conventional pedal demo video by playing the pedal through a completely clean amp (I'm looking at you, people who demo'd the EQD Crimson Drive!). It doesn't really showcase the pedal's true strength.
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Post by brayks on Mar 24, 2015 22:29:48 GMT -7
All bow and get your rock on brothers!
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Post by Smashies on Mar 27, 2015 11:04:01 GMT -7
So, looks like Analogman will make the Acolyte still--with the TB on the right side, no less! Costs the same as a Beano Boost + a Prince of Tone put together, and should take under a week to build. Now...to free up funds. Anybody want a 4-jack King of Tone (Hi-gain both sides)? I'll be putting it in the TGP emporium and here soon.
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Post by greenblues58 on Mar 27, 2015 14:49:00 GMT -7
Just got a Rockett Archer this week which bonds very well with the Maz. Still got a soul food but haven,t bonded with it as far too noisy.
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Post by rckline on Mar 27, 2015 17:20:29 GMT -7
So, looks like Analogman will make the Acolyte still--with the TB on the right side, no less! Costs the same as a Beano Boost + a Prince of Tone put together, and should take under a week to build. Now...to free up funds. Anybody want a 4-jack King of Tone (Hi-gain both sides)? I'll be putting it in the TGP emporium and here soon. That's exactly what I'm going to do...
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Post by Smashies on Mar 28, 2015 20:12:37 GMT -7
So, looks like Analogman will make the Acolyte still--with the TB on the right side, no less! Costs the same as a Beano Boost + a Prince of Tone put together, and should take under a week to build. Now...to free up funds. Anybody want a 4-jack King of Tone (Hi-gain both sides)? I'll be putting it in the TGP emporium and here soon. That's exactly what I'm going to do... KoT for sale in TGP Emporium
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Post by Smashies on Mar 29, 2015 11:38:06 GMT -7
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Post by Smashies on Mar 31, 2015 5:58:07 GMT -7
KoT is sold! Placing order for Acolyte soon. I'ma give a review in this thread once it arrives. Hold onto yer bean bags!
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Post by Smashies on Apr 4, 2015 0:32:50 GMT -7
Decided to get just the Beano Boost instead of the Acolyte. After my GAS subsided briefly, I came to my senses and realized that if, for some reason, I end up not liking either side of the Acolyte (no matter how unlikely that may be), then I'm not (1) stuck with the extra room taken up on my board, and (2) not finding a very hard time reselling the combo pedal. Factor 2 is what convinced me the most, actually. I can sell a PoT or a Beano easily for a favorable price. An Acolyte? That would be very difficult to sell at a favorable price, if at all due to how obscure it is.
ANYWAY, when the Beano Boost arrives, I'll give my .02 on how it does with a Maz 18 NR combo (w/ Celestion Blue).
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Post by rckline on Apr 4, 2015 16:38:30 GMT -7
If it sounds anything like my MAZ 18R and Beano, you are going to have a hard time putting down the guitar...
I also love it through my Marshall Class 5 head. I've heard the POT has more/better distortion than the KOT.
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Post by Smashies on Apr 15, 2015 1:55:52 GMT -7
Beano Boost arrived…and another toy. Review to come this weekend.
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