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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 7, 2007 21:50:56 GMT -7
If this sounds familiar it is because I did this backing on another track just a short while ago. But I made a great deal on a Mexican Jazz Bass for my studio (dang this thing is OK!) so went back and recut both the bass and guitar parts, shut off the lame rhythm guitar I had in the original, and remastered it. Turned out ok, but I wish I could get my time under control - always ahead of the beat. dagnabbit! I think I need a little bit of the Rev. Billy G. that I can just have in a drink or a pill or something. Slow that damn git-tar DOWN! Anyway here's the setup: Grosh Strat > SRZ-65 > Airbrake (-4 clicks) > Weber ceramic Blue Dog Strat was on 5 until about half way in, where I cranked it to 10. then just at the fade, it goes back to 5. SRZ-65 Setup: Presence: 11 o'clock Bass: Dimed Middle: Dimed Treble: Noon Volume: 3 o'clock Gain: 4 o'clock Reverb added in Sound Forge during mastering The clip: SixEightStrat.mp3
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Post by Jan on Jul 8, 2007 2:12:16 GMT -7
Maybe if the bass player turned up the volume, the drummer could keep up the rhythm. Did you ever hear the stories Ray Charles would tell about hard it was finding a drummer that could play slow enough for him? Funny stuff, that was.
Was that with the Gold? Nice tone. Gots to get me a Gold.
*edit DOH!, I noticed the Blue Dog part a nanosecond after hitting Post.
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Post by highway61south on Jul 8, 2007 2:39:33 GMT -7
Very nice tone.lets have some more...LOL...Sterling
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 8, 2007 7:59:19 GMT -7
Thanks guys. No, my Golds are in the garage waiting for the next gig date, so I've been using the Blue Dog for the SRZ and the RXES in my studio. I think the Blue Dog is sounding pretty good compared to what my initial impressions were. Just needed to pair it up with the right amp is all.
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Post by garyh on Jul 8, 2007 15:54:45 GMT -7
Really nice Steve. I have a tendency to play ahead of the beat too. I always think I'm fine until I record something. Very soulful man, diggin' it a lot.
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Post by GuitarZ on Jul 8, 2007 16:44:26 GMT -7
Just tell that dang drummer to pick it up a little bit and follow you.
Who are we paying to listen to? Him or you?
Very nice.
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Post by johnnyl on Jul 10, 2007 20:37:14 GMT -7
great playin & tones Steve! man I miss my SRZ....
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 10, 2007 21:40:17 GMT -7
Again, thanks guys for your kind words. I definitely appreciate them. And I definitely dig the SRZ...
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Jul 11, 2007 4:52:34 GMT -7
Great stuff as always, Steve. Not bad for a guy who's tone deaf Phil
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 11, 2007 5:47:19 GMT -7
Great stuff as always, Steve. Not bad for a guy who's tone deaf Phil Thanks. But I can't tell...
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 11, 2007 14:43:21 GMT -7
Fascinating.... I posted this clip over on the blues forum I sometimes follow, and it stimulated a long thread about whether or not this is 6/8 time or not. There is a drummer there that says it is, but another guy who says no, it's 12/8. Any opinions here? I'm curious if we have anyone who has enough theory to tell me what it is, and why.... ;D
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Post by garyh on Jul 11, 2007 20:35:55 GMT -7
Just listened to the clip again and with most time signatures it's really how you want to write them down. It definitely has a feeling of 4 groups of three so I can see where the guy is coming from with 12/8 but it could be written as 6/8 too. This is more typical, you don't see 12/8 much. With 6/8, you have less info per bar so it's easier to read. It could also be written as 3/4 or even as a slow 4/4 with a triplet feel (four triplets per bar).
With all these, it's the same tune with the same feel. Time signatures are mostly just how you want to write it down and what is most efficient for the reader. This isn't true in all cases. For example 5/4 or 7/8, any odd meter would be quite different. Someone else may have a different opinion and be technically correct but this has been my experience. Hope this helps.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 11, 2007 20:47:50 GMT -7
Just listened to the clip again and with most time signatures it's really how you want to write them down. It definitely has a feeling of 4 groups of three so I can see where the guy is coming from with 12/8 but it could be written as 6/8 too. This is more typical, you don't see 12/8 much. With 6/8, you have less info per bar so it's easier to read. It could also be written as 3/4 or even as a slow 4/4 with a triplet feel (four triplets per bar). With all these, it's the same tune with the same feel. Time signatures are mostly just how you want to write it down and what is most efficient for the reader. This isn't true in all cases. For example 5/4 or 7/8, any odd meter would be quite different. Someone else may have a different opinion and be technically correct but this has been my experience. Hope this helps. Yeah, it does, thanks!
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Post by rcrecelius on Jul 12, 2007 8:13:37 GMT -7
6/8, 9/16, open end, socket, it dont matter...it sounds good to me BTW I would say it is 6/8 but my theory(what little I know) was learned the hard way.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 12, 2007 10:15:03 GMT -7
As I told the complainer, it sounds like 6/8 to me too, but I used that based on the fact that the drum loop came from the 6/8 folder in Acid Pro.
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Post by play4jc on Jul 15, 2007 14:00:00 GMT -7
Benttop, just cked out your website, awesome playing and tones, where can i get some blues type backing tracks like i heard u playing to... very good stuuff thanks
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 15, 2007 14:13:23 GMT -7
Benttop, just cked out your website, awesome playing and tones, where can i get some blues type backing tracks like i heard u playing to... very good stuuff thanks I have quite a few I got from the Guitar Center Guitarmageddon Blues contest. They produced at least two CD's with backing tracks on them - with about a 20% "cool" factor. Then I also get free backing tracks from a web page whose address I've lost in a crash - let me see if I can find it here...AHA! Here it is: www.guitarbt.com/ - these guys have a ton of unsorted backing tracks, and a bunch of sorted ones too. This is where I got the track of Texas Flood with Stevie's voice but no guitar. Cool! There are other backing track sites, and other resources. For example, there is a recordings section on The Gear Page and some of those guys are pretty good at creating backing tracks. Some will even share them.
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Post by play4jc on Jul 15, 2007 14:24:07 GMT -7
Thanks man, im sitting here just listening to your stuff, very smooth, my style is close to yours but cant play like that, im trying, just got my 18w jr a couple days ago, had to sell my first, sounds like a attenuator is my next purchase...thanks again for being a good player and sharing your knowledge
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 15, 2007 15:16:12 GMT -7
Thanks man, im sitting here just listening to your stuff, very smooth, my style is close to yours but cant play like that, im trying, just got my 18w jr a couple days ago, had to sell my first, sounds like a attenuator is my next purchase...thanks again for being a good player and sharing your knowledge You're welcome!
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