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Post by drew on Feb 25, 2007 15:36:40 GMT -7
Steve, That was fun listening and reading the evals. Now I already know but was going with other assumptions. 1) Flex 2) SRZ. Nice wankage. Keep up the good work. Man I need a basement and recording gear... More gas... must not lead into temption... need a Z28, Maz Jr, SRZ, StangRay...
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 25, 2007 16:27:18 GMT -7
Steve, That was fun listening and reading the evals. Now I already know but was going with other assumptions. 1) Flex 2) SRZ. Nice wankage. Keep up the good work. Man I need a basement and recording gear... More gas... must not lead into temption... need a Z28, Maz Jr, SRZ, StangRay... Yeah, that WAS fun! One I'd really like to try is the Stingray/BB Preamp vs. the SRZ or the Flexi. Now that would be sure to get some hackles up... The recording thing is always a work in progress. I'm on my third mixer here, my second audio input card for the PC (next time it will probably be a dedicated hard drive recorder) and no matter what, you NEVER have enough mics! Until the PC down there dies though, I'll probably not advance my state of the art for a while yet, although Myles got me to thinking again about a better mic for guitar recording. It's always something....
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Post by Hohn on Feb 28, 2007 21:45:16 GMT -7
OK, I guess the fun has run its course. The first clip is the Flexi, the second is the SRZ-65. Now that I've revealed that, I have to say it has been a fascinating experiment, on several levels. I posted this same clip on two other forums (the univalve.net forum and a local musicians forum here in the Northwest) and I got some comments that caused me to think a bit more about this. We all know, based on what we've learned from Myles, that the SRZ-65 is not just a one sound amp - it can be tailored and molded to the tone that is wanted. And if you're familiar at all with THD amps, that's their big claim to fame. The Flexi can use almost any power tube with an octal socket, and virtually any preamp tube that has the 12AX7 configuration. I mention all of this because as many of you noted, they aren't the same, but they are sure close. I think it's reasonable to think that the tones that both amps are capable of overlap fairly significantly if you count all of the possibilities of the variety of tube substitutions that are possible in each. I think the Flexi can be somewhat darker than the SRZ, and I think the SRZ can get a bit brighter than the Flexi. But somewhere in the middle I think they come pretty close to meeting. Perhaps not exactly but pretty close. So I'm a pretty happy camper here - how many guys get to own two such world class amps in one lifetime? And don't get me started on the Stingray... oh baby! I guess I'm doing something wring because I only heard one clip:( I think you should consider selling your SRZ to a forum member who doesn't have BOTH a 6545 *and* and Flexi-50. Steve's trying to make a socialist out of me, yet:)
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 28, 2007 22:09:36 GMT -7
OK, I guess the fun has run its course. The first clip is the Flexi, the second is the SRZ-65. Now that I've revealed that, I have to say it has been a fascinating experiment, on several levels. I posted this same clip on two other forums (the univalve.net forum and a local musicians forum here in the Northwest) and I got some comments that caused me to think a bit more about this. We all know, based on what we've learned from Myles, that the SRZ-65 is not just a one sound amp - it can be tailored and molded to the tone that is wanted. And if you're familiar at all with THD amps, that's their big claim to fame. The Flexi can use almost any power tube with an octal socket, and virtually any preamp tube that has the 12AX7 configuration. I mention all of this because as many of you noted, they aren't the same, but they are sure close. I think it's reasonable to think that the tones that both amps are capable of overlap fairly significantly if you count all of the possibilities of the variety of tube substitutions that are possible in each. I think the Flexi can be somewhat darker than the SRZ, and I think the SRZ can get a bit brighter than the Flexi. But somewhere in the middle I think they come pretty close to meeting. Perhaps not exactly but pretty close. So I'm a pretty happy camper here - how many guys get to own two such world class amps in one lifetime? And don't get me started on the Stingray... oh baby! I guess I'm doing something wring because I only heard one clip:( I think you should consider selling your SRZ to a forum member who doesn't have BOTH a 6545 *and* and Flexi-50. Steve's trying to make a socialist out of me, yet:) No, there's only one .mp3 file, but if you listen close, you hear the first amp fade out just as the second one comes in. And don't come near my SRZ bub...
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Post by Hohn on Mar 1, 2007 14:09:37 GMT -7
wring? haha!
Trust me, the sound clips are as cose as I can get to your SRZ. I've got my sights on a D200, so no guitar money for quite awhile.
jh
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 1, 2007 14:14:25 GMT -7
wring? haha! Trust me, the sound clips are as cose as I can get to your SRZ. I've got my sights on a D200, so no guitar money for quite awhile. jh Ah, a worthy thing to save for!
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Post by DRZ on Mar 1, 2007 20:20:09 GMT -7
Pretty cool Steve.
I was surprised at how close they both sounded.
They say a mother cow can pick her calf's cry out of the heard, the sweeter top-end and slightly looser low-end was the give away to me on the second cut.
I thought the Z held/sustained the lower and mid notes better, but I would like to hear it again without the hot plate.
DR.Z
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 1, 2007 20:36:31 GMT -7
Pretty cool Steve. I was surprised at how close they both sounded. They say a mother cow can pick her calf's cry out of the heard, the sweeter top-end and slightly looser low-end was the give away to me on the second cut. I thought the Z held/sustained the lower and mid notes better, but I would like to hear it again without the hot plate. DR.Z Oh yeah, the Hot Plate definitely squishes things up. Trouble is, without it, both of these amps will move a cement barrier across a football field. Still, it would be a fun experiment. Maybe I'll do one with the Alnico Golds and kill three birds with one stone...
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Post by Hohn on Apr 28, 2007 23:59:57 GMT -7
The thing I like about these clips is that it shows that a Flexi isn't such a bad "second choice" if you don't happen to have an SRZ-65.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 29, 2007 7:46:13 GMT -7
The Flexi is a very cool amp in its own right. Its claim to fame is the way every tube socket is designed to take a variety of tubes. In the power amp, you can use almost anything that uses an octal socket: EL34's, 6L6's, 6550's, 6V6's (in low power mode only), and about a dozen others. They all bring something different to the tone envelope. But since the Flexi has separate bias controls for each power tube, you can also mix and match - a lot of guys who have this amp run one EL34 and one 6550, or one EL34 and one 6L6. The preamp is similarly flexible, so you can spend approximately the rest of your life fiddling with combinations of tubes you hadn't thought of yet.
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Post by Jan on May 3, 2007 21:45:16 GMT -7
I have posted before about your clips making me pine for a SRZ. The one I got to play with at my local dealer finally sold. I am having a terrible case of non-buyer's remorse... it could have been mine. At least my Maz Jr head finally came in. ;D
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