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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Dec 6, 2014 22:10:12 GMT -7
So, I have been a longtime GEOGRE L's user, does the L stand for LOSER? LOSS? Ha Ha!! I have had somewhat good luck with them, however it seems when I first put them in action they sound good no noise etc... but after a while I start noticing a lot of noise hiss etc, I trace everything back and it seems to always be related to my Patch Cables. I use a Looper with all my pedals . is there an alternative or something better I can use? Im starting a new gig and I don't want to have issues while I'm performing , I hate that, seems to use up all my creative emotion worrying about where that damned noise or issues are coming from. What are you using for cables??
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Post by brayks on Dec 6, 2014 22:17:46 GMT -7
Sounds like a job for PCNS. Give Todd a shout and he will most certainly sort you out just like he has many a forum member (including me). Great guy, great products.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Dec 7, 2014 10:55:46 GMT -7
OH YES!!! I forgot all about him, Duh that's a no brainer Thanks, for the suggestion ,
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Post by doctorice on Dec 7, 2014 11:01:56 GMT -7
OH YES!!! I forgot all about him, Duh that's a no brainer Thanks, for the suggestion , I replaced all pedalboard patches with PCNS. Pretty much bulletproof plus they are quite transparent. Don't forget to use the forum discount.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Dec 7, 2014 11:03:52 GMT -7
awesome , I contacted him via PM , Looking forward to it. are you still using you wreck since being "in THERAPY"? LOL!
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Post by doctorice on Dec 7, 2014 11:15:25 GMT -7
awesome , I contacted him via PM , Looking forward to it. are you still using you wreck since being "in THERAPY"? LOL! Absolutely!
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Post by simpleton on Dec 7, 2014 21:07:34 GMT -7
OH YES!!! I forgot all about him, Duh that's a no brainer Thanks, for the suggestion , I replaced all pedalboard patches with PCNS. Pretty much bulletproof plus they are quite transparent. Don't forget to use the forum discount. Are his patch cables tiny like the George L's?
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Post by dixiechicken on Dec 8, 2014 1:47:47 GMT -7
DC here! I have PCNS on my pedalboard and they work quite well. I would also probably recommend Evidence Audio's Monorail if your in the market for solderless solution and can spring the money. I have the HG Lyric as my main guitar cable - the best money can buy ask Buddy Whittington - Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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Post by doctorice on Dec 8, 2014 6:13:19 GMT -7
I replaced all pedalboard patches with PCNS. Pretty much bulletproof plus they are quite transparent. Don't forget to use the forum discount. Are his patch cables tiny like the George L's? No, they're the same as his standard guitar cables. If you want to get a sample of the wire, it's likely Todd would send you a piece. Here's a previous iteration of my small board with PCNS interconnects. (Power supply cables not tucked away in this shot )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 7:11:58 GMT -7
If you want something small and solderless the Lava Cable tight rope line is excellent. I have been using them for a few months and haven't had any issues. The wire is solid core and the tip actually threads onto the wire. It's a pretty solid connection.
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Post by prettynoiselab on Dec 8, 2014 9:18:39 GMT -7
DC here! I have PCNS on my pedalboard and they work quite well. I would also probably recommend Evidence Audio's Monorail if your in the market for solderless solution and can spring the money. I have the HG Lyric as my main guitar cable - the best money can buy ask Buddy Whittington - Cheers: Dixiechicken! Dixiechicken, thanks for the Evidence recommendation. I have been having a heck of a time getting the Lava solderless patch cables to work properly. Let's see how the Evidence does. Of course I will most likely have PCNS build up a few for me.
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Post by pcns on Dec 8, 2014 13:39:46 GMT -7
I also make pedal board cables with Canare GS4 that is the same diameter as the L cable but not as harsh sounding. It's very flexible
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Post by dixiechicken on Dec 9, 2014 1:44:08 GMT -7
DC here! This is slightly off topic but anyways........ I have three main guitar cables that I use/used a lot. 1) ProCo Very nice with my Tele because the treble rolls of a bit, softens the bright character from the treble pup 2) Canare from PCNS (premiere GS-6) Much brighter without harshness in the treble, sound open and airy Perfect for those funky James Brown Tower of Power ostinato riffs 3) Evidence Audio HG Lyric Same as (2) above but also with a deeper and tighter bass. Noticeable playing riffs on the bass strings Getting power and groovet into the boogie rock'n-roll riffs - lols When I first did a comparison between these three cables I actually did NOT expect to hear a difference I thought it was mostly wishful thinking among my brethren's here on the board - but I stand corrected Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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Post by Lash LaRue on Dec 9, 2014 22:24:51 GMT -7
Lava Cables
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Post by pcns on Dec 10, 2014 9:53:56 GMT -7
DC, you need to try our Maxx XP cable. PM me if you want to play with one
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Dec 10, 2014 20:02:32 GMT -7
I'm a victim of the George-L con. Had them on everything for a while, but just as Jamie experienced, after a while there were lots of momentary losses and sometimes outright fails. Plenty of crackling and all sorts of odd noises and it was always those damn solderless connectors. I replaced the whole thing with PCNS cables and I've never had a problem since.
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Post by prowler on Dec 18, 2014 18:01:03 GMT -7
The best solderless system is the Evidence Audio SIS system paired with the Evidence Audio Monorail cable. The plugs are very slick in their design and every bit as good as a well soldered cable. Even if you decide to not go with this system they are worth a look at least.
I build custom pedalboards, interfaces and cables and I have never had one problem with the EA SIS system. I typically use a combination of soldered 280 plugs and the EA SIS depending on where the interconnect is. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Dec 21, 2014 1:14:16 GMT -7
thanks for all the feedback, Im gonna go with the PCNS for sure im in the process of getting some things off my board, and putting new ones in their place , tired of noise and inconsistent signals:((
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Post by iluvpunz on Dec 21, 2014 10:26:06 GMT -7
A little late to the party but the secret to George L's is to lock the screw caps in place with a pair of pliers. Also, your pedals must be mounted very securely to the board and the cables fastened in place. I have a Trailer Trash board in a road case and have traveled with that board for several years with no problems at all. Rooster showed me the correct way to insert the wiring and lock the caps. If you don't do this you will have problems, and if your pedals move around you will have problems. If you have a small board, change pedals often, or if your pedals can move around go with PCNS for sure.
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 30, 2014 14:39:51 GMT -7
^^^^^ what gene says is exactly right. I too have a trailer trash board and rooster showed me the same trick. Haven't had a single problem since I started locking those things down with pliers. Also, a dab of loctite doesn't hurt anything ether.
As for guitar cables, the best I have ever played by far are the asterope cables that David Grissom uses. I can hear and feel the difference from other high end cables...
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jan 2, 2015 6:05:18 GMT -7
I really dislike solderless cables. In my experience, there simply is no substitute for quality cable and connectors, soldered together.
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Post by deltone on Jan 2, 2015 12:51:49 GMT -7
Long-time George L user on my pedal boards. I've had few issues with them. Common sense tells you that solder-less cables are not meant to be plugged and un-plugged on a regular basis. If that's what you do, then you should use soldered cables. However, I also used George L's as guitar cables as well for a number of years and I had few issues with them. For pedal boards, I love being able to make them to the exact lengths I need, and quickly. It's a plus that if you do experience an issue that all you have to do is "reset" the cable/plug and with no soldering required, whereas if you have a soldered cable go south, then you're SOL. In addition, I always check the cables I've put together with a cable tester prior to putting them into service.
What I don't like about George L's as a guitar cable is that they don't lie straight on the floor after being rolled up between gigs. I hate stepping all over and being concerned about tangling my feet on my guitar cable. It's for that reason I went to a cloth-wrapped guitar cable as they lay flat. Considering going to a coily cable to combat this, but most-likely I'm going to go wireless to eliminate cables on the floor altogether.
As per PCNS, I recently purchased a 12-gauge "head-to-cab" speaker cable. Initially, very pleased with it. Stout as all get out. Can't comment on long-term reliability yet as I've only used it for a short time. Obviously, it gets plugged in and un-plugged every gig. For reference, I do 40+ gigs a year.
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