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Post by rgreen1974 on Nov 5, 2014 19:36:25 GMT -7
Hey guys, I just joined the forum. I have a question, I have a Galaxie, and although I really like the sound, it's not that loud. I keep reading how "its so loud" but mine is not. I recently borrowed a Prescription from a friend and on 2 it was as loud as my Galaxie on 6. Amyone have any ideas as to way it's not that loud. I retubed it completely and that did nothing. And according to the website it's a fixed bais amp. Please advise. Thanks Rob
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Nov 5, 2014 19:59:55 GMT -7
Just to make sure you understand, fixed bias means you have to rebids with a power tube change. If it's not biased right it could affect volume. Try running it through different speakers to rule them out. Also clean the input jacks with detox it. It's about the same volume as a 210 super or a pro to me.
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Post by rgreen1974 on Nov 5, 2014 20:04:39 GMT -7
I should also mention I'm running my Galaxie through a Z best cab. I've also tan it through a Two Rock open back 1x12, with a creamback and a Boogie cab with a EV12L. All broke up around 4 and after 5 or 6 didn't get much louder just broke up more.
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Post by simpleton on Nov 6, 2014 1:31:45 GMT -7
so did you check the bias of the amp when you re tubed it?
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Post by rgreen1974 on Nov 6, 2014 5:58:18 GMT -7
I did not rebais the amp. The reason is that I replaced it with the same rated tubes that were in it. Groove Tubes rating of 6. It wasn't that loud prior to my re tubing. Don't get me wrong I play it on stage but I have to run it at (at least) 6 or above in order to be heard. I borrowed a Prescription head and it was just as loud on 2.
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Post by rgreen1974 on Nov 6, 2014 5:59:43 GMT -7
I guess my main question is, is this a (or should it be) a loud amp?
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Post by Eric from Cheekago on Nov 6, 2014 7:01:25 GMT -7
I did not rebais the amp. The reason is that I replaced it with the same rated tubes that were in it. Groove Tubes rating of 6. It wasn't that loud prior to my re tubing. Don't get me wrong I play it on stage but I have to run it at (at least) 6 or above in order to be heard. I borrowed a Prescription head and it was just as loud on 2. The rating has nothing to do with biasing. You'll still need to bias the amp. Yes it should be "loud" although my definition of loud may differ from yours...
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Post by Joey Beverages on Nov 6, 2014 10:22:28 GMT -7
Galaxie thru a Z-best should have plenny of volume imho - is it stock (V30+H30) or custom speaker configuration? I'd be curious to know what your settings (remember that Bass and Treb get nice 'n' gainy past 12:00) and which channel you are using - and if it has the MV-mod for Channel 2. Looking forward to your follow-up. cheers always, Joel
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Post by rgreen1974 on Nov 6, 2014 11:04:36 GMT -7
Hey Joel, the Z best cab does have the v30 and g12h30 combo. I play on the clean channel, no mods. Treble anywhere from 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock. Bass around 11 o'clock.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Nov 6, 2014 12:50:52 GMT -7
Hey Joel, the Z best cab does have the v30 and g12h30 combo. I play on the clean channel, no mods. Treble anywhere from 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock. Bass around 11 o'clock. It's been a while since I've run with a Z-best - but I am familiar with the stock speaker configuration - most of my play time in the last little while, though was Galaxie thru Z 210.
I get what you are saying earlier where the volume doesn't increase, while the break-up does. Maybe push both those tone controls over a lil' bit to the right
I am not sure about all the technical aspects of tube biasing etc .... but might suggest that you get the amp to your tech (or the Z shop) for a quick once-over, as I think running with volume between 11:00 and 1:00 and the tone controls as you mentioned should give you enough overall volume - maybe also check where the Presence control is set; and whether you are running in Pentode or Triode (40 watts vs 30 watts).
Hope that helps
cheers always, eh
Joel edit: before I finished posting - if you need something louder, have you looked at Remedy and/or Antidote?
edit: also, I am not 100 % familiar with Prescription
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Post by wraparound (Steve) on Nov 6, 2014 20:59:32 GMT -7
I guess my main question is, is this a (or should it be) a loud amp? In relation to some of the loudest amps of all time no. It is a 5u4 tube rectified, 40 watt amp with smaller transformers, so by it's tweed nature it is not considered a power monster. That said, most players found that they wanted "the goods" at lower volumes so the mv mod came into being after the use of an air brake. I have an old Gibson GA40 that is perceived as loud but it is not as powerful as the Galaxie. But if you want powerful loud that is Delta 88 and SRZ 65 turf. Keep in mind that pot tapers can be varied as well. I had an old 50 watt head that was not that loud until you tipped the volume past 1 o'clock then it would shake your pant legs. I would be checking out channel 2 to cut through the mix as well. After all this, my best advice is to send it to the Z shop for a check up and if they say it is right, then you'll know for sure and be able to determine better if it is the amp for you. Many have bailed early on the Galaxie without realizing that it can take a little time to find home base for the tones that sing for you.
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Post by pcns on Nov 7, 2014 5:25:00 GMT -7
I had one in the house for a while, it was loud!
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Post by wubberdubber on Nov 7, 2014 13:06:10 GMT -7
Had a Galaxie 2X10 combo for a while, now in the hands of another forum member. With a Remedy and MAZ 18 to compare it to, I wouldn't say it was the "loudest" of the three, but I never had any issues with it not being enough to gig with. Pushing the tone controls past noon on the Gal brings on more gain than volume, that's how it's designed. Doc's 10's were pretty efficient too, and two 10's would probably be perceived as "louder" than a single 12...but speaker choice makes a difference, and yes it should be re-biased with any power tube change...improper bias can reduce clarity and volume.
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Post by drew on Nov 14, 2014 17:57:23 GMT -7
huummm one persons loud may be another persons not so loud. I've owned a 2x10 Galaxie combo and a Galaxie head which I ran thru a stock Z-best. My perception is both amps were plenty loud with good headroom on the clean channel, tweed clean that is. Maybe the bias setting has something to do with the lower volume but it sounds like your situation is not the norm and your amp may need a checkup.
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Post by freddieg on Nov 14, 2014 19:41:57 GMT -7
The galaxie is loud. I mean, loud is loud. Right? Should be loud.....
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Nov 15, 2014 0:17:14 GMT -7
Have you tried a higher voltage rectifier?
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Post by Joey Beverages on Dec 19, 2014 16:20:16 GMT -7
RE-visiting this thread .... Using my PRS SC-245 thru MV-mod Galaxie head (#186) with a Z 112 cab w V30 and a Z 210 with Z 10s (via pcns Y-cable) .... it's plenny loud enuff for local or stadium gigs .... just my .02, ymmv, imho .... and all that cheers always, Joel
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Jan 1, 2015 16:57:47 GMT -7
yes gray loud is loud, ask FreddieG my Gal I had was LOUD AND PROUD Hands down not the Loudest Z I own but Loud, The Amps Bias Settings are Very Crucial to get Optimal amp performance, Also Is the amp in the Pentode/Triode Mode? I think in Pentode its output may only be 20 watts? What Tubes are you running in the Pre? 12AX7's? also I know this is Crazy but I have recently had a RECTIFIER tube Fail in My SRZ and looking back the Rec tube was causing volume drops before it went out all together and took a fuse out with it. The Rx amp is a Totally different amp it is somewhat Mid Heavy and will sound louder due to this, fender circuits are more Neutral in the Mid section , hope all this is somewhat helpful
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 1, 2015 17:41:35 GMT -7
Pentode mode is 40 watts - triode mode is 30 watts. And yes, it is loud.
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