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Post by Stephen on Oct 17, 2014 12:15:28 GMT -7
The G string on my Les Paul won't stay in tune and I think the nut slot is binding it. I use a .017 string in it. Stewmac does not have a .017 file, but they do have a .016 file and a .020 file. Which should I get to work on this slot?
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Post by Maddog on Oct 17, 2014 12:48:40 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 13:27:06 GMT -7
Also consider getting a new nut cut w the "to the peg" angle. Works wonders on the D and the G.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Oct 17, 2014 14:05:19 GMT -7
I use the stewmac 16 regularly for 17s. Just rock it a bit and you will get the little extra you need. Got that from Dan Erlewine himself.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 17, 2014 14:16:47 GMT -7
Thanks everyone!
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Post by ME on Oct 17, 2014 15:14:53 GMT -7
Also consider getting a new nut cut w the "to the peg" angle. Works wonders on the D and the G. The G-string always gets the bad press when it gets stuck on the nut... D's can be just as bad. Many think it's only Gibson's that have this problem, but many three in a side guitars have this issue. Now, if you don't bend the G-string it tends not to get stuck in the slot...
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Post by Stan on Oct 17, 2014 15:25:32 GMT -7
On the off chance this is a one off,
perhaps you simply have a bad string.
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Post by greenblues58 on Oct 17, 2014 15:34:15 GMT -7
Excuse my ignorance but what does w nut cut to the peg angle mean / imply ?
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Post by digs57 on Oct 17, 2014 15:34:47 GMT -7
ive read that a "little" larger file cant hurt things...you just don't want string to sit high in groove or pinch.Reading some on cutting nut is a must...you should ideally have "small space" first fret when fretting the third fret...if your novice please do some reading this technique.
"les paul has a 17? degree headstock angle in relation to neck."...must be cut with that in consideration.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Oct 17, 2014 15:36:48 GMT -7
Lube and/or service the nut ....
And, yes .... maybe look to see if any of the frets are outa position
Have had similar problems with various guitars .... not to mention PRS/EBMM/Gibson/Heritage/Yamaha
cheers always,
Joel
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Post by The Bad Poodle Experience on Oct 17, 2014 16:06:30 GMT -7
easy on the nut sauce or your g-string will end up around your ankles. Just saying, is all.
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Post by BritInvasion on Oct 17, 2014 17:36:37 GMT -7
Excuse my ignorance but what does w nut cut to the peg angle mean / imply ? I suspect he meant "with nut cut to the peg angle", meaning that instead of a straight slot cut , the slot is slightly widened starting from the take-off point (nearest the fingerboard) where it's straight and then widened slightly at the exit point on the peghead side , so the slot is sort of a faint "v" shape. This allows the string to follow a less restrictive path from the nut to the tuning peg on 3-on-a-side pegheads, as the strings fan out from the nut to the edge of the headstock creating a bend in the string , at the nut.
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Post by greenblues58 on Oct 18, 2014 1:44:30 GMT -7
I understand the term nut cut to the peg angle now thanks. My Gibson's and Corsa are definitely cut like that. I had trouble on the original Nashville bridge on my custom some years back but it would also break the string as well as be difficult to stay in tune. This turned out to be a little sharp spot on the saddle.
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Post by markT on Oct 18, 2014 5:49:36 GMT -7
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Post by justblues on Oct 18, 2014 7:53:09 GMT -7
Thanks for sharing ... I have never noticed this product before. Looks like a great idea.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 18, 2014 14:27:03 GMT -7
Abrasive cord ordered! Thanks.
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Post by smokeshowin1 on Oct 18, 2014 16:08:05 GMT -7
# open g. Happens on lp's. I've dealt w/ that on all of mine over the years, thought it was the way I set mine up.
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Post by smolder on Oct 18, 2014 17:39:27 GMT -7
there are three things I do almost immediately when I buy a Gibson.
1) locking tone pro bridge and tail piece 2) vintage 50's wiring 3) precut tusq nut
The old nut is pretty simple to safely remove, and while the new nut will need some shaping, 15 minutes with a wood file and a little care will fit it.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 18, 2014 18:01:39 GMT -7
How do you remove the old nut on a Les Paul?
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Post by smolder on Oct 18, 2014 18:36:32 GMT -7
Score the top edge of the nut where it meets the lacquer on the headstock with a razor blade or exact-o knife. That should keep it from splintering. Put a small wooden block on the fretboard side of the nut. Tap gently on the block with a hammer (I use a rubber mallet ) and the nut should pop out. Be patient and start gently. Most people secure the new nut with a drop of Elmer's or super glue, but it's not unheard of for some to over use adhesive. That's when it gets complicated and you risk potential damage.
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Post by BritInvasion on Oct 18, 2014 18:55:01 GMT -7
For re-gluing I use Elmers wood glue cut 50/50 with water and apply sparingly with a tooth pick. Too much or overly strong adhesive will make removing it again without damage pretty tough (got this tip from Dan Erlewine) Here's a vid that shows what Smolder is saying about scoring with an Xacto knife and tapping with a hammer:
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Post by Stephen on Oct 24, 2014 5:24:38 GMT -7
Abrasive cord seems to do the trick. Fingers crossed for the gig tomorrow night.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 26, 2014 19:43:59 GMT -7
No problem with the G string last night due to application of the abrasive cord. Thanks Ztalk!
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