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Post by jb on Sept 10, 2014 16:06:18 GMT -7
I currently have Ghia and Rt 66 to cover small and larger volume situations. Very much interested in the EZG-50 for the great clean sounds. For what I do, the Ghia is as much volume as I really need. Question is whether or not the EZG-50 is too loud, or, does the master volume tame it to the point that it sounds good at lower volumes. Thanks for you input on this.
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Post by Ridgeback on Sept 10, 2014 16:52:28 GMT -7
The EZG sounds great (to me) at lower volumes as long as you are looking for clean. No amp breakup at reasonable non-gig volumes though. I even have a hard time getting it to break up much at higher volumes but as I mostly got it for clean, it's not an issue for me. A wonderful amp, second only to the Z-28 in my book. As usual, YMMV.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Sept 10, 2014 17:15:00 GMT -7
There is no master volume per se on EZG50. There is a pre and a post volume that can be mixed. The amp is 50 watts so it is not going to be a real quiet amp.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 18:42:57 GMT -7
I agree that the EZG-50 can be used at low volumes to get amazing cleans. I just finished playing my EZG and MAZ 18 NR back to back through my Z 4x10. As stated by Ridgeback, the EZG is primarily a clean amp. I can get mine to breakup, but not at home. The biggest difference between the two amps at gig levels is #1. The EZG has a fuller sound (large iron means bigger tone) and #2. Any higher wattage amp isn't going to breakup as easily as a lower wattage amp....just different characteristics in tone/feel as expected. I must say that while I am back in the honeymoon phase with the MAZ 18 NR, the EZG may be my favorite Z amp ever (I've owned most all of the models). Never going to get rid of the EZG. I like it so much that I have two. Kind regards, Jordan
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 18:47:24 GMT -7
I should have led with this....
Where do you set your volume on the Ghia and Route 66?
If you say that the Volume is at 9 o'clock on the Ghia then I'd say save your money. If you run the Ghia up to noon, then you'd be surprised that the EZG can sound superb at similar decibels.
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Post by jb on Sept 10, 2014 20:17:57 GMT -7
I run the Ghia and Rt66 between 10:00 and noon with my Airbrake on 4 clicks. Appreciate your thoughts on this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 7:02:03 GMT -7
I'm not too sure now thinking about the the Air Brake being on 4 clicks. Seems like that can't be very loud. Maybe someone here with an EZG and Ghia/Route 66 AND Air Brake can compare things for you. Barring that kind of help, you may have to hike over to a dealer and try one out with the rest of your rig to compare. I'll say this.... If your gigging, then you can reduce the stage volume other ways (point cab off stage, put cab off stage, plexi shield, etc.). But...life's too short for cold tubes! I mean...I play at home 80% of the time and I play quite loud in my tiny apartment (sorry neighbors). Never had the police visit me either. At home, i can play with the EZG and Z 4x10 with the Pre / Post at 10 o'clock each with no attenuation. Yep, it's loud. I do roll my guitar volume back to 5 if I'm only playing clean. Play loud. It's doable. One last thing, I have two EZG's. A 2008 and 2014. The 2008 gets louder faster on the Pre / Post than the 2014. I'm not sure why. Maybe they've changed the taper of the pots...? All I can say is that the 2014 is a bit more friendly on the lower third of the taper than the 2008.
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Post by gplayer1965 on Sept 26, 2014 18:55:03 GMT -7
The EZG sounds great (to me) at lower volumes as long as you are looking for clean. No amp breakup at reasonable non-gig volumes though. I even have a hard time getting it to break up much at higher volumes but as I mostly got it for clean, it's not an issue for me. A wonderful amp, second only to the Z-28 in my book. As usual, YMMV. reverse the order for me EZG first then Z 28 but Ridgeback is correct
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Post by Ridgeback on Sept 26, 2014 20:00:07 GMT -7
I recently purchased a pretty much pristine 65 Super Reverb. It breaks up much sooner than the EZG. The same basic tonal spectrum but the EZG is like the Super on steroids, much beefier and stronger but tighter and less articulate and "sweet". Almost halfway between a Super and a Twin. Wonderful amp.
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Post by doctorice on Sept 27, 2014 6:27:42 GMT -7
I run the Ghia and Rt66 between 10:00 and noon with my Airbrake on 4 clicks. Appreciate your thoughts on this. The Ghia will be pretty clean with volume at 9 (o'clock) or so, assuming you're not pushing the heck out of the front-end with pedals. Just turn off the Air Brake to get the sound pressure level up. I assume the Rt66 would be similar, but I haven't played one. The M12 does clean quite well too.
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Post by Baconator on Sept 27, 2014 7:00:53 GMT -7
I don't have an EZG, but I do have a Route 66, Ghia and Brake Lite. I'm not sure how the settings compare between the Brake Lite and the Air Brake, but 4 clicks is pretty 'stifled'. If your Ghia needs 4 clicks then maybe a 50 watter isn't the best fit. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but I do know that my Route 66 never has been run un-attenuated on stage and even outdoors I've had plenty of volume.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 7:17:28 GMT -7
The EZG gets loud, for sure, but its beauty is that it delivers big tone at relatively low volume, especially if you goose the front end with a good OD pedal. At home I run mine at 9/9 and use pedals at just above unity for dirt--it's glorious. At a gig I'd just roll the pre/post up to fit the room.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 7:18:09 GMT -7
This with no attenuation, btw. Don't need it with the EZG.
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Post by bigsbybender on Sept 27, 2014 19:09:38 GMT -7
I agree with EZG. As powerful as the EZG is, it sounds wonderful at low volumes as well.
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Post by bigsbybender on Nov 26, 2014 3:58:09 GMT -7
I should have mentioned that at home i run it through a 1x10 cab, which also helps control the volume. This works nicely for gigs too - you can turn it up a little more and not blow out the room. Lots of options...
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Post by Frankie Starr on Nov 30, 2014 11:53:42 GMT -7
I love the EZG, but if your running your Gia with four clicks on the air-brake, I would think the EZG will be way to much amp for you...it's big , clean and loud...Good luck with your search man !
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Post by southmusic70 on Dec 10, 2014 18:05:50 GMT -7
I was just surfing the Forum and saw this thread.
I play a Z28 for the smaller jobs, use a Rati v2 for rock and blues, and a KT45 with my archtops for jazz. The KT stays clean way up the knobs and feels a little like a BF 6L6. I set it with bass and treble about 9 o'clock and the volume at noon and usually run it through a 2x12 can with Vin30s. The guitars are set with both the volume and tone at 5 or less. It is seriously clean, with nice depth and breadth of sound.
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