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Post by dissonance26 on Jul 9, 2014 10:16:46 GMT -7
I am getting ready to invest in the Maz 18 Jr Head at the end of the year and I want to run it with my Egnater Rebel 30 1x12 Combo. I plan on buying the Dr. Z 1x12 cab for it later, but for the meantime I want to experiment with this setup. I obviously don't want to run both simultaneously, but I do want to have both units on and use the Z as a 3rd channel INSTEAD of merely using the combo's cab alone.
The Combo comes with a 16 ohm Celestion Elite 80 and the combo is a 30 watt so as far as compatibility is concerned, I think I'm covered, but please correct me if I am wrong.
I am just brainstorming here, but....
Is the return on the effects loop really the right way to go?
Can I use some kind of A&B box, but one that is placed between the cabinet and the power outputs using speaker cables through it, if such thing exists?
I think this might be a fun setup for a little while until I can get the proper extension cab. If worse comes to worse, I'll just disconnect the 1/4" speaker cable connected to my egnater "Main" output and use a coupler or a female to male speaker cable to the Z so I can just use the cab side of the combo.
I hope I can get a solution for this setup. Thanks for reading!
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Post by kustom250 on Jul 9, 2014 10:29:51 GMT -7
Is the return on the effects loop really the right way to go? Absolutely do not do this. There are A/B cab switchers but they're not the same as a simple a/b box. To do it right you'll probably spend as much as a cab is going to cost.
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Post by strat59 on Jul 9, 2014 10:39:31 GMT -7
Is the return on the effects loop really the right way to go? Absolutely do not do this. There are A/B cab switchers but they're not the same as a simple a/b box. To do it right you'll probably spend as much as a cab is going to cost. +1 don't do it.
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Post by dissonance26 on Jul 9, 2014 11:10:12 GMT -7
I was skeptical about that. I would have never even thought about the effects loop since it makes no sense to me, but its something that was unclear when I was reading other forums.
So you're saying that a cab switcher (Which I only have one cab) is more expensive than 579.99 for the 1x12 Z cab? That doesn't sound right. There has to be another way right?
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jul 9, 2014 11:18:19 GMT -7
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Post by doctorice on Jul 9, 2014 11:21:33 GMT -7
The gadget that you need is something like the Headbone from Radial. It allows two amps to be run through the same speaker(s). It can be used with two heads or a head and a combo. The Headbone comes in versions for running two tube amps, two solid-state amps and one tube-one solid. Here's a link Radial HeadboneI have one and it works great. It makes sure that each amp sees a proper load during the switching process and when that amp is not selected to be running into the speaker. Running amps into no or improper loads can lead to serious electronic problems. To run a head and a combo, you might have to pick up an additional cable or two.
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Post by doctorice on Jul 9, 2014 11:22:12 GMT -7
^^^ Jaguarguy must type fast! His reply wasn't visible when I started mine.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jul 9, 2014 11:22:37 GMT -7
The gadget that you need is something like the Headbone from Radial. It allows two amps to be run through the same speaker(s). It can be used with two heads or a head and a combo. The Headbone comes in versions for running two tube amps, two solid-state amps and one tube-one solid. Here's a link Radial HeadboneI have one and it works great. It makes sure that each amp sees a proper load during the switching process and when that amp is not selected to be running into the speaker. Running amps into no or improper loads can lead to serious electronic problems. To run a head and a combo, you might have to pick up an additional cable or two. Great minds think alike (and have the same name!!)
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Post by kustom250 on Jul 9, 2014 11:22:48 GMT -7
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Post by doctorice on Jul 9, 2014 11:32:35 GMT -7
The gadget that you need is something like the Headbone from Radial. It allows two amps to be run through the same speaker(s). It can be used with two heads or a head and a combo. The Headbone comes in versions for running two tube amps, two solid-state amps and one tube-one solid. Here's a link Radial HeadboneI have one and it works great. It makes sure that each amp sees a proper load during the switching process and when that amp is not selected to be running into the speaker. Running amps into no or improper loads can lead to serious electronic problems. To run a head and a combo, you might have to pick up an additional cable or two. Great minds think alike (and have the same name!!)
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Post by hymns on Jul 9, 2014 11:36:09 GMT -7
There is a headbone in the BST section for about 160.
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Post by dissonance26 on Jul 9, 2014 12:01:15 GMT -7
OH wow. I knew about Radial with all their unique pedals and DI's now, but I didn't know about this one! This is the proper solution I was hoping for. I knew I could count on you guys. Thanks!
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Post by zolin on Jul 9, 2014 16:14:28 GMT -7
That's my Radial in the BST section. Shoot me a PM if you're interested. I was switching between a Maz 18 and a Splawn Quickrod (using a 412 cab!). But, now I've got 2 cabs so I don't use it much. I'd love to move it along to someone who'd use it.
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Post by z4me on Jul 9, 2014 19:47:46 GMT -7
+ another vote for the radial headbone amp switcher. I have one and use it for most shows now as I like the tones of two different amps for different songs or parts and having an immediate backup amp if needed. As mentioned, two amps can use the same single cab, one amp at a time, not both at once. I have been running my Rx Jr or Stangray along with a SRZ into a Z 1x12 cab.
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