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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Jun 22, 2014 18:31:26 GMT -7
Beefy. Huge sounding. Full. Rich. Smooth. A finely tuned blues rock machine. I use my volume knob on the guitar to control dynamics much more than I can remember with my previous Z amps. It sounds great with my Rockcrusher attenuator on all settings as well. You gotta tame this guy in a bedroom setting. The one thing I love about Z's amps is that each guitar sounds like that guitar through that amp. The Antidote is no exception. My PRS DGT sounds sweet. I think this has been my favorite Z amp to date. It is almost embarrassing how many I have gone through...but I like to think I've been able to sample quite a few. Happy camper here. Well done Doc.
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Post by JoeMo' on Jun 22, 2014 19:33:21 GMT -7
What Paul said^^^
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Post by westcoast on Jun 23, 2014 12:35:27 GMT -7
I've been through a *few* myself, and I absolutely love the antidote. Though, I am thinking about a brake for it.. It's so loud. I can rarely get it into dirt, even with the Creamback. It doesn't need much attenuating I don't think, but some. Huge and fat.. I love the clean-on the edge of dirt sound. I'm pretty much always on the vintage setting. Gorgeous.
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Post by markT on Jun 23, 2014 13:54:06 GMT -7
WHat everybody above said!
Big...FAT...Thick....Sweet.... Versatile....Musical....
The AirBrake is great with the Antidote! Even at bedroom settings...
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Post by mikethebike500 on Jun 23, 2014 14:57:33 GMT -7
still like/lovin mine....2 clicks on the brakelite, creamback, and I can sit right next to it at any volumn setting, doesnt hurt too much....primarily on the modern setting...I like the mids
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Post by ME on Jun 23, 2014 19:08:20 GMT -7
You know, the Route 66 is a great amp, but the Antidote is so much more. Just back from jam and man, it sounded great. Playing a R8 with Antiquities I can get an outrageous amount of tones. We play pretty high energy blues-rock. Even the slow songs can have a bit of edge. On the drive home all I could think of was how great the sound was. I could play better, but couldn't most of us?
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Jul 11, 2014 11:22:28 GMT -7
I have been using mine with a Rivera Rock Crusher Attenuator. "Paired with humbuckers, the Antidote is a heart-stopping, Thin Lizzy-style hard-rock machine, rich with sustain and natural compression. Dirtier settings also yield smooth, singing sustain, but remain airy in the upper-mid frequencies, with an elastic picking response." www.premierguitar.com/articles/19373-dr-z-antidote-amp-review
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Post by Joey Beverages on Jul 22, 2014 15:36:54 GMT -7
Friendly lurker-bump .... while it seems I have been actively following some of threads regarding seeking an appropriate level of Therapy ..... I just keep coming back to the possibly that maybe I really need an Antidote for what ails me Strats, Teles, SG, Super Sports and semi-holler guitars - any additional insight much appreciated .... please and thanks y'all cheers always, eh Joel
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Post by westcoast on Jul 22, 2014 16:35:03 GMT -7
It's so true.. I've had my Antidote for about 6 months or so, and it amazes me every time I play through it. Every now and then I think of selling/trading it for something lower-powered, as it is way more than I use/need, but then I plug in again. It'll make your ears hurt, if you want its fullest potential for sure, but it just sounds so good all over the dial... Sweet spots are everywhere. I love it. My Tele loves it. My 335 loves it even more. Pedals?? It takes them better than any amp I've ever had. This is through a Creamback. I can only imagine it through a bigger cab. Scary.
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Post by ME on Jul 22, 2014 17:49:09 GMT -7
Another jam report. The Antidote + Brake Lite = awesome tone machine for rock/blues. Other guitarist also repairs amps. He had some 100 watt Engl 3 or 4 channel head. It was not what I'd be looking to buy. There was a new rack (old stuff) the base player traded some vinyl records for. Not too bad. Mid '70's Traynor MK III. Good head, not my cuppa though. Difficult not to be too loud as it sounds so good. A click on the BL and that's not a problem anymore. Got to love the variety of tones available with the twin volumes and the EQ. Bypass is icing on the lead cake... I don't need no Therapy cause I have the Antidote to all my ills!
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Post by iluvpunz on Jul 22, 2014 17:52:34 GMT -7
Friendly lurker-bump .... while it seems I have been actively following some of threads regarding seeking an appropriate level of Therapy ..... I just keep coming back to the possibly that maybe I really need an Antidote for what ails me Strats, Teles, SG, Super Sports and semi-holler guitars - any additional insight much appreciated .... please and thanks y'all cheers always, eh Joel I'm thinking along similar lines. I gig with my Remedy a lot, typically 70 to 100 shows a year. Some are small and my Remedy with the master is perfect most of the time. I keep thinking that the Antidote would be great for bigger stages and outdoor shows. I've been watching the Buy/Sell for a couple of months and I haven't seen an Antidote come up for sale. Everyone who has one must be really happy with theirs. The Therapy looks like a really cool amp but may not be right for me. I need more volume pretty clean with just a little hair and works great with pedals. I get the impression that the Therapy is more about nice furry tone but doesn't have a bunch of clean headroom.
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Post by nmz on Jul 22, 2014 18:34:38 GMT -7
Friendly lurker-bump .... while it seems I have been actively following some of threads regarding seeking an appropriate level of Therapy ..... I just keep coming back to the possibly that maybe I really need an Antidote for what ails me Strats, Teles, SG, Super Sports and semi-holler guitars - any additional insight much appreciated .... please and thanks y'all cheers always, eh Joel I'm thinking along similar lines. I gig with my Remedy a lot, typically 70 to 100 shows a year. Some are small and my Remedy with the master is perfect most of the time. I keep thinking that the Antidote would be great for bigger stages and outdoor shows. I've been watching the Buy/Sell for a couple of months and I haven't seen an Antidote come up for sale. Everyone who has one must be really happy with theirs. The Therapy looks like a really cool amp but may not be right for me. I need more volume pretty clean with just a little hair and works great with pedals. I get the impression that the Therapy is more about nice furry tone but doesn't have a bunch of clean headroom. Antidote will fit for excatly what you discribed and the tone is amazing. I know you have been on the fence for a while and if you can you really owe it to yourself to give one a run. The one thing I noticed was alone or maybe with a three piece the vintage mode was one of the greatest thickest tones I have come across. But in the band setting it disappeared a little (unless you really turned it up) that is when I switched it to modern and it cut like a knife.
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Post by iluvpunz on Jul 22, 2014 19:40:07 GMT -7
Thanks for the info, and yes I have been on the fence. I've played one at a dealer but not out at a show. I loved the tone in the store. I have three festival shows next month and this might be the time to go for it.
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Jul 23, 2014 6:09:28 GMT -7
I too find the Vintage/Modern toggle invaluable. The Vintage mode has a bit more of a "mellower" vibe where the overdrive/distortion tones are not as ripping. Not to say that you can't achieve some killer tones in the vintage mode. I did use the Modern setting at rehearsal last Sunday. That was fun. More rock than classic rock. This amp is a gem.
I used a greenback loaded 112 closed back for the cabinet. I brought along the Rivera RockCrusher to use. Well, the 97db greenie worked well and I didn't end up using the attenuator! Both volumes were at 9 or 10 o'clock. My Wampler Plexidrive (gain at 10 o'clock/volume at 12 o'clock) adds just enough old skool edge brought me into that magical JTM45/cranked tweed zone at a reasonable volume.
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Post by westcoast on Jul 23, 2014 9:17:00 GMT -7
I need to explore the Modern side some more... I find that I'm in Vintage mode much more often. It definitely requires an eq re-shaping I think. I also think that I may get more use out of the by-pass that way, as it's too big a boost from vintage with my settings. I've not tried an attenuator as of yet..
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Post by simpleton on Jul 23, 2014 9:31:30 GMT -7
Thanks for the info, and yes I have been on the fence. I've played one at a dealer but not out at a show. I loved the tone in the store. I have three festival shows next month and this might be the time to go for it. Not trying to curb your Antidote acquisition but curious here, can't the Remedy do what you want? It's 40 watts only 5 watts less, has similar dials....what does Antidote do that Remedy does not. The Antidote demo with Gary Holt really makes me want the 'dote....
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Post by iluvpunz on Jul 23, 2014 10:41:53 GMT -7
The Remedy is a great amp and has been my primary stage amp since I got it. The Stang Ray is a great amp also but I have to reset my pedals to use it which I am too busy or lazy to do. Its a very bright amp and excels with my Tele but not so much with my Les Paul. I travel often and need a second backup on stage. I've lost tubes mid show before and have a 22 Caliber which is good for emergencies in a small venue but not outdoors. I have a Mesa Lonestar that I like but not love. It's not a Z. I think the Antidote with just a bit more clean, plus the Vintage/Modern may work out well for the larger outdoor stages where the Remedy is on the edge of too much dirt for the songs I need a big full clean tone.
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Post by westcoast on Jul 23, 2014 16:18:09 GMT -7
Just had a session with the Modern setting... I now really see the love for it, and can understand how it would really be prominent in a band setting. I find I just need to roll the presence back a bit, and it sounds incredible. So crisp and fat at once... I absolutely love this amp. It's so incredibly 'muscular'!!!! I'm going to bite the bullet and try an attenuator soon...
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Post by ME on Jul 23, 2014 18:27:15 GMT -7
Just had a session with the Modern setting... I now really see the love for it, and can understand how it would really be prominent in a band setting. I find I just need to roll the presence back a bit, and it sounds incredible. So crisp and fat at once... I absolutely love this amp. It's so incredibly 'muscular'!!!! I'm going to bite the bullet and try an attenuator soon... Modern does add punch. I like the softness in Vintage when I'm strumming a bit. Turn it up and it gets harder, but not as quickly as flicking to Modern. When I'm playing with the Brake Lite I find the amp fuzzier, not bad, but I do like the cleaner more immediate snap without the BL. The BL also seems to mute the ability of the amp to go into feedback. Not excessively just something I noticed. To be fair, these drawbacks occur when I have the BL on 3 or 4. Should probably turn the amp down a bit... But I have the need to crank. (I normally have the volumes around 1 or 2 o'clock and that's loud!) The jam sessions are seriously loud some times! When you hit the bypass there is all kinds of mayhem in store. I suspect it would be cleaner if I played my old Ibanez Strat copy, however, the LP is the tool I use now and it sounds like the rock when wound out and cleans quite well with the GV.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Aug 26, 2014 7:12:02 GMT -7
Bumpin' this thread .... recently had some limited play-time with Antidote thru a lil' Traynor 412 cab ( loaded with V30s iirc) ..... with Gibson SG ..... straight in. I like it ..... alot. Plenny toneful Plenny powerful Plenny of possibilities imho
I think I got a purty good idea why this amp is gettin' such strong support. Beefy, full, rich, smooth indeed .... this aint helping my choices about what I will be puttin' alongside my Z-28
cheers always, Joel
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Aug 26, 2014 15:15:28 GMT -7
Awesome Joel! I love it bro!
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Post by ME on Aug 26, 2014 19:52:00 GMT -7
Bumpin' this thread .... recently had some limited play-time with Antidote thru a lil' Traynor 412 cab ( loaded with V30s iirc) ..... with Gibson SG ..... straight in. I like it ..... alot. Plenny toneful Plenny powerful Plenny of possibilities imho
I think I got a purty good idea why this amp is gettin' such strong support. Beefy, full, rich, smooth indeed .... this aint helping my choices about what I will be puttin' alongside my Z-28
cheers always, Joel Plenty loud too (I'm guessing!) I'm generally using a 1x12 with a M Creamback or V30 and that's usually enough to be heard in the band. Hee,hee, Hee.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Aug 27, 2014 5:25:45 GMT -7
ME ... yes, plenny loud enuff ..... that said, it got me thinkin' about the tones/volume with a 112 and/or 210 ..... mini-stack anyone? cheers always, JOel
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Post by pcns on Sept 26, 2014 16:54:11 GMT -7
GAS!!!
GAS!!!
GAS!!!
GAS!!!
GAS!!!
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