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Post by maction on May 24, 2006 7:05:29 GMT -7
I just ordered a NOS Mullard from KCA. thanks for the tip, Myles! ;D I'll be using it in my Route 66. I mainly play through a Dr. Z 2x10 cab with an Airbrake on the second click for rehearsal, usually first click or off for performance.
the controls on my Route 66 are usually treble at 4:00, bass at 2:00, volume at 3:00. I'm using a Sovtek rectifier and Groove Tubes KT66s. I plan on having fresh GT power tubes installed with the new V1 and V2.
I'm looking to tame some of the midrange hump, and get a little more sparkle on the top end without sacrificing warm overdrive.
what are you using, or what do you think for the phase inverter in V2? SAG-AX7M-MPI from Groove Tubes? I already have a Sovtek LPS that I'm currently using with the Svetlana EF/86.
I also posted this in the Rt. 66 forum, but I thought it might make more sense here.
any suggestions?
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Post by ke4unr on May 24, 2006 7:53:30 GMT -7
I've been using the Sovtek 12AX7LPS in my Maz JR 210, but just started swapping PI tubes. I really liked what I heard with a NOS GE 5751 last night. Plenty of sparkle, glass, chime, harmonically rich, etc. But, it was still warm. I run my preamp volume around 11:00, Master about 9:00. Just enough to add some hair when the guitar volume is rolled up. I push it with pedals when I want/need more. Ray K.
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Post by maction on May 24, 2006 8:00:19 GMT -7
Ray K,
thanks for the info! it sounds like you didn't lose any top end with the 5751?
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Post by rcrecelius on May 26, 2006 11:20:35 GMT -7
I really liked what I heard with a NOS GE 5751 last night. I stuck a NOS 5751(dont remember exactly what brand) in PI of my Z28 last night and it brought the amp back to life.
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Post by ke4unr on May 26, 2006 12:23:06 GMT -7
Ray K, thanks for the info! it sounds like you didn't lose any top end with the 5751? You are correct, sir... Ray K.
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Post by maction on May 27, 2006 8:28:05 GMT -7
thanks to everyone for their input! I think I have it narrowed down to three choices: 1. NOS RFT 12AX7 - I like this option because it's balanced, and is supposedly a good match for the Marshall-y tone of the 66. I'm a little worried that it's lack of headroom will cause mushiness at higher gain levels: kcanostubes.com/content/estore_details.asp?category=58&product=392. NOS JAN GE 5751 - solid recommendations here, it's fairly cheap, and it sounds like I'll be adding some sparkle and definition: kcanostubes.com/content/estore_details.asp?category=94&product=463. New SAG-AX7M-MPI from Groove Tubes. I'm assuming that this will be a better version of what I have now (the Sovtek LPS), kind of a "safe" choice: www.groovetubes.com/product.cfm?Product_ID=1723I'm mainly a rock/alt/pop player, and use a some dirt/boost pedals to add overdrive for solos, like a Z Vex Super-Duper, Keeley Java Boost, or Fuzz Head. thanks again for the opinions, this is a great forum! ;D
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Post by bustertheboy on May 27, 2006 17:34:21 GMT -7
new old stock 5751- kca or www.tubedepot.com i have a couple of green label nos GE 5751's that i use- they are super consistent, balanced and rich adn detailed- also pretty cheap for what u are getting!
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Post by myles on May 27, 2006 18:30:33 GMT -7
This is a hard call as the Route 66 is so responsive to phase inverter changes.
Find the post in the general section on "the ultimate phase inverter collection" or something like that which I wrote for Chad Weaver to explain each tube I sent him for the phase inverter of his Stingray as it is all applicable to the Route 66 as well.
On side note .... The Route 66 is a very thick and beefy sounding amp. In the studio if you want to crank it more (on on stage if you use a great large diaphram condensor mic) one trick to thin it out a bit to keep the mic from overloading as easily (using a good mic ... an SM57/58 won't overload but sort of sound like garbage to my ears) is a 12AX7R3 (12AX7EH) as these are a bit thin in the lows and mid lows when used as phase inverters. This can be used to advantage with the KT66's and the ultra linear output of the Route 66 in this application.
I also like certain "numbers" on the R3 for this purpose in the route 66. If you order from GT via the net, in the comment section of your order say something like "have Myles pick this for my Route 66" and I will hand pick one. Do not add the extra $10 SAG labor charge as I do not charge folks this who are on this forum.
If you want to get the tube from Mike at KCA let me know and I will work with Mike and give him numbers he can use to get into the range I like.
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Post by maction on May 28, 2006 10:34:22 GMT -7
thanks Myles! more karma comin' at ya (like you need it ) I went to GrooveTubes.com to order the SAG-AX7M-MPI, and wanted to order KT66-HPs at the same time. I see them mentioned in the descriptions, but can't find a link to order them. also, which tube were you suggesting from KCA, the RFT 12AX7 or the 5751? from your post on PIs for the Stangray, you have really high praise for a RCA 5751 black plate, would this be similar? kcanostubes.com/content/estore_details.asp?category=97&product=410 thanks again for your time and expertise. it's folks like you that make this forum the great resource that it is.
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Post by myles on May 28, 2006 14:08:37 GMT -7
thanks Myles! more karma comin' at ya (like you need it ) I went to GrooveTubes.com to order the SAG-AX7M-MPI, and wanted to order KT66-HPs at the same time. I see them mentioned in the descriptions, but can't find a link to order them. also, which tube were you suggesting from KCA, the RFT 12AX7 or the 5751? from your post on PIs for the Stangray, you have really high praise for a RCA 5751 black plate, would this be similar? kcanostubes.com/content/estore_details.asp?category=97&product=410 thanks again for your time and expertise. it's folks like you that make this forum the great resource that it is. GT is currently out of the KT-66HPs .... that is why their link was removed. I do not know when they are making more. On the phase inverter .... they are all very different. You can call me at GT in the morning on Wednesday and we can talk about your style, guitar, where you are trying to get, etc., at 1-800-459-5687.
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