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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Mar 18, 2014 11:51:49 GMT -7
Those of you who have moved a Remedy on: why and what replaced it?
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 18, 2014 12:30:24 GMT -7
I traded my initial Remedy and a Stangray for a Soldano SLO. Eventually replaced Remedy and the Stangray (with a Stingray).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 12:44:28 GMT -7
Sold my Rem and replaced it with an EZG. The Rem has this top-end sizzle at higher gain levels that is just not my cup of tea--the Monza does kind of the same thing--and I found there were only a couple of settings I liked, and only a couple of guitars from my stable (Strat and LP) that were a good match. The EZG's big, bold cleans make it a great platform for just about any guitar/pedal set-up. The EZG's a big powerful amp, but it sounds great at lowr volumes, too, even without attenuation--and it's gotten me a lot closer to the SRV-ish tones I was looking for than I could get with the Rem. It's just a much more natural fit for me than the Rem, though the Rem is a terrific amp and I totally get why people love it. I think ultimately I'm just more of a Fender guy than a Marshall guy, maybe.
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Mar 18, 2014 13:09:58 GMT -7
thx guys
Hmmmm, fizz. I heard that with mine early on, but after new output tubes and a switch from a Gold to a Scumback M75, it no longer bothers me.
I too love many thing about the amp, but I'm finding more and more that I go straight to extra dirty settings; otherwise I grab a cleaner, more Fender-y amp or a syrupy EL84 clean-to-edge box. I'm starting to think that I'm more of a Ghia guy in Z terms as I get more out of the cleans and find the texture of the breakup a little smoother.
I'm also starting to thank that I like the idea of a Plexi-type sonic character more than I actually like using it. I've let every Plexi-ina-Box pedal go too for the same reasons (even good ones like the DLS MkIII and Dyna Red).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 13:32:59 GMT -7
Yeah--I think part of my struggle with the Rem was finding the right speaker. I was an early adopter of the Creamback with that amp, but the top end never smoothed out as much as I hoped it would. I don't like strident highs, and the Rem could get that way in a hurry. I'm also not a big '80s rock guy--and while I get exactly the appeal of the Rem, it just isn't my sound right now. The EZG on the other hand, went on top of my Z 4x10 (stock) the day it arrived, and hasn't gone anywhere since. Perfect amp/speaker match. The EZG is also great with a 1x12 Gold.
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Post by Ridgeback on Mar 18, 2014 13:37:34 GMT -7
The EZG is also great with a 1x12 Gold. Yes it is.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 18, 2014 13:46:55 GMT -7
I switched speakers away from Celestion to an Eminence Governor and that has really helped eliminate that "fizz" you refer to - I think that might be a 12AX7 characteristic, but not sure. Sorry to side track the OP - I have only ever owned 1 Remedy, and it's going nowhere, so I'll butt out of this one
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Post by fishman on Mar 19, 2014 13:59:02 GMT -7
Lets see I started with a MAZ38NR 1-12, then got a Z-28, then an orig Stingray 2-12, then a KT-45, then an EZG, then a 3-10 Super Z, then annother Z-28, then a Remedy, and have returned to the MAZ38NR Head version, no bypass, no mods. The Remedy just did not sound the way I wanted it to with my strat, and I did not have enough headroom with my LP...also at the time only JJ 6V6GT tubes I believe could handle what the remedy dished out....and I heard that those tubes were gonna get hard to come by.....The amp had useful tones but and I love a 28, the 38 can cover alot of ground and can do alot of what other Z amps can do....or close enough....I can get the big 3-Fender_Marshall-Vox plus all the other stuff it can do....sounds good with acoustic and when I had my combo I put a Tonker in it and played bass thru it...Not knocking the Remedy just not my amp....MAZ38NR head and Z 4-10 or THD 2-12 with RedFangs....for small stuff I am looking for a 1-10...Your experience may be totally different than mine...
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 19, 2014 14:03:48 GMT -7
Lets see I started with a MAZ38NR 1-12, then got a Z-28, then an orig Stingray 2-12, then a KT-45, then an EZG, then a 3-10 Super Z, then annother Z-28, then a Remedy, and have returned to the MAZ38NR Head version, no bypass, no mods. The Remedy just did not sound the way I wanted it to with my strat, and I did not have enough headroom with my LP...also at the time only JJ 6V6GT tubes I believe could handle what the remedy dished out....and I heard that those tubes were gonna get hard to come by.....The amp had useful tones but and I love a 28, the 38 can cover alot of ground and can do alot of what other Z amps can do....or close enough....I can get the big 3-Fender_Marshall-Vox plus all the other stuff it can do....sounds good with acoustic and when I had my combo I put a Tonker in it and played bass thru it...Not knocking the Remedy just not my amp....MAZ38NR head and Z 4-10 or THD 2-12 with RedFangs....for small stuff I am looking for a 1-10...Your experience may be totally different than mine... That is why I still have a Maz Jr NR, and a Remedy. Love the Les Paul through the Remedy, but I prefer the Strat through the Maz Jr.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Mar 19, 2014 16:18:04 GMT -7
I LOVED The REM, however I use most of my amps to get the most out of it I can, being clean platform and I use several drives, boosts layered/stacked to achieve a raging Singing Sustain Monster. I couldn't do that with the Rem, I guess because of its Cathode Layout, its Pushed pretty hard even at Lower Volumes, cranked then trying to push it, would end up in crazy feedback and or Mushy Tones. I ended up Replacing it with a 36 Watt EL 84 Plexi style amp, which I no longer Have. However I'm now using a KT66 Driven 30 watt beast that will give up nice Plexish tones but will also deliver JMP-800 tones and then some without the use of any Boxes. I really love the idea of the REmedy having the EQ Bypass, and the PPIMV. I would love to try one. I have been on the prowl for another as I just sold an amp and ..... well, something has to go in it's spot. Im thinking Friedman, Bray, Antidote ,Hot Rodded Plexi base, If I get anywhere near Willcutt in Lexington, KY Im gonna try the new REm, The Buck may Stop There???> We'll SEE )))
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Mar 19, 2014 20:32:39 GMT -7
Had a Remedy in its original design, before the MV mod was offered, and it was loud (naturally). Picked up a Z-28 at some point, and A/B'ed it using a Headbone vs. the Remedy on the 20 W setting. With the Z-28 cranked up a bit where it's grinding, they were close enough in terms of sound, feel, etc. that I figured I could get away with just 1. Plus I find the Z-28's V-B-T preamp so easy to deal with, so I kept the Z-28. Would like to tray another Remedy someday, though.
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Post by nmz on Mar 19, 2014 22:43:43 GMT -7
Had a Remedy in its original design, before the MV mod was offered, and it was loud (naturally). Picked up a Z-28 at some point, and A/B'ed it using a Headbone vs. the Remedy on the 20 W setting. With the Z-28 cranked up a bit where it's grinding, they were close enough in terms of sound, feel, etc. that I figured I could get away with just 1. Plus I find the Z-28's V-B-T preamp so easy to deal with, so I kept the Z-28. Would like to tray another Remedy someday, though. I do not own a Remedy but hear people refer to the 28 as it's little brother (minus the ef-86). I do own a 28 and have thought real hard about a remedy, especially when the MV mod became available. Antidote is filling that spot right now but a Remedy is on the wish list.
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Post by John on Mar 20, 2014 5:59:12 GMT -7
The Rem has this top-end sizzle at higher gain levels that is just not my cup of tea- I've always felt that a Remedy/Marshall type amp, with mentioned top end sizzle...is compensated when pushing greenbacks at high volume. The speakers tend to attenuate the high sizzle end, giving us the signature tone. when backing off the guitar volume, the amp doesn't make that sizzle and the speaker aren't pushed so hard and so they don't attenuate anymore.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 20, 2014 7:22:39 GMT -7
So TED you decided to sell your MV version? What promoted you to do so from this thread?
Just curious......
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Post by Joey Beverages on Mar 20, 2014 14:24:36 GMT -7
Those of you who have moved a Remedy on: why and what replaced it? Why: 2012 and 2013 were perhaps the two worst years in my personal financial history .... true What replaced it: My Z-28 .... it too had left the collection and has found its way home Would I buy one again: .... damn right I will cheers always, eh Joel
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 7:31:08 GMT -7
I had an original non-MV when they first came out. I sold it because I felt it was difficult to adjust my volume and maintain my tone. May have been more perception than reality. I replaced it with a couple other Z heads and an Avatar 45, and now I'm back to a MV Rem (I kept the Avatar, too). I'm trying to get closer to a JTM tone with different preamp tubes and I'm sticking with Greenback flavored speakers. Seems to be working out just fine so far.
(Hey, I just noticed my original Remedy is in my avatar!)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 10:22:23 GMT -7
I had the origional Non Master Volume Remedy and was using set clean and used pedals for my gain and overdrive. When the master volume version came out I sold my older Remedy and bought the new master volume version. As much as I loved the Remedy I ended up going back to my main gigging amp I used in the 90's. The Fender Vibro King. Its my all time favorite Fender amp. I just put new tubes in it last week and biased it at -46 Vdc I get compliments on my tone all the time now. It has a huge full 3D like bloom to it because of the three alnico blue frames in it. I had several of these amps in the 90's all with the 6V6 reverb tube driver this my first EL84 tube driver version. It also came with a Master Volume mod in the back so that was also a huge bonus for home use. It was built in 1993 its serial number is 90 so it was one of the first 100 made. This is by far the best sounding one I have ever owned. I generally just plug straight in no effects needed.
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Mar 22, 2014 13:58:15 GMT -7
Thanks again for all the perspective guys! Hearing both the ongoing loves and the breakup postmortems has helped me bring my own thoughts into better focus. Pete: probably the biggest piece of wisdom from this thread that helped me make the decision was the discussion of the Rem's natural EQ character and where the heat resides. I realized I was often fighting some of the Rem's finest qualities despite using a Greenback style speaker. Plus, I really LIKE that kind of sound but it's just not where my current musical creativity gets buttered. I kept getting creatively distracted by the awesome rock tones and would wind up jamming out on classic rock standards. Incredibly fun for sure, but I often couldn't shake a sense of 'lack' of accomplishment. I think this kind of admission reveals more about the space music occupies in my life than subtleties in the Remedy's talents! I have indeed let my Remedy go (to follow Z-Talk bro Traumatized . It's not that I couldn't keep it for years and be happy; it's more that I want/need things that are not quite in line with what the Remedy is so naturally good at providing and as such, would still need another amp that would ostensibly be used most often. I'd rather zero in on what I want and can actually use 90% of the time and let the Remedy move on on to where it'll be more fully utilized. I had a Z-28 for a few years and really loved it. I let it go more to shake things up than for lack of love. The Rem and '28 have some shared DNA for sure but I do think they're pretty different too. I found the '28 had a clarity and firmness that the Rem didn't, while the Rem had that awesome give in the attack like a cranked output section - at virtually any volume. That's just so cool! The thing is, I just don't need that very often; I'm playing more and more without a pick and expanding my chord voicings, finding a lot of creative inspiration. I recently scored kind of a stupidly great deal on a dead mint in box Carr Sportsman (about what recent used Ghia heads go for!!!). Having something so Fendery and hi-fi really reminded me how much I can use that kind of tone/feel in the way my playing is evolving currently. Plus, since I don't relay on my gear for anything other than relaxation separate from my family and career responsibilities, I tend to think about this stuff a lot more LOL. It's weird: I love this gear, but I'm disturbed that I tend to only use them a certain way. It just seems like a waste and since this is a hobby, I don't want to leave discretionary resources tied up in gear that's more toy than tool in my hands. It's not just the Rem that's getting analyzed like this: my 60's Tribute P90 LP Goldtop and humbucker Tele are also be considered for redundancy. Pedals of course are dealt with most mercilessly! bwah-ha-ha-haaaaaa…..
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 22, 2014 16:56:13 GMT -7
A very articulate and well considered response, to be very much respected I'm glad another Z brother will get to enjoy your Remedy, and that you have found something which inspires your musical growth. That what this is all about after all - the music!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 17:56:29 GMT -7
thx guys Hmmmm, fizz. I heard that with mine early on, but after new output tubes and a switch from a Gold to a Scumback M75, it no longer bothers me. I too love many thing about the amp, but I'm finding more and more that I go straight to extra dirty settings; otherwise I grab a cleaner, more Fender-y amp or a syrupy EL84 clean-to-edge box. I'm starting to think that I'm more of a Ghia guy in Z terms as I get more out of the cleans and find the texture of the breakup a little smoother. I'm also starting to thank that I like the idea of a Plexi-type sonic character more than I actually like using it. I've let every Plexi-ina-Box pedal go too for the same reasons (even good ones like the DLS MkIII and Dyna Red). Fender syrupy EL84 clean to edge breakup you just described my Vibro King Ted!
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Mar 22, 2014 18:10:19 GMT -7
thx guys Hmmmm, fizz. I heard that with mine early on, but after new output tubes and a switch from a Gold to a Scumback M75, it no longer bothers me. I too love many thing about the amp, but I'm finding more and more that I go straight to extra dirty settings; otherwise I grab a cleaner, more Fender-y amp or a syrupy EL84 clean-to-edge box. I'm starting to think that I'm more of a Ghia guy in Z terms as I get more out of the cleans and find the texture of the breakup a little smoother. I'm also starting to thank that I like the idea of a Plexi-type sonic character more than I actually like using it. I've let every Plexi-ina-Box pedal go too for the same reasons (even good ones like the DLS MkIII and Dyna Red). Fender syrupy EL84 clean to edge breakup you just described my Vibro King Ted! Hey revrand; man I never knew those VKs were EL84 and non-PCB! I just assumed another modern PCB 6L6 variant in an old-school box. I see them around from time to time. I'll definitely check one out, man. 3x10? What's the concept there?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 19:26:08 GMT -7
Ted The original Vibro Kings came with two 5881 power tubes a EL84 tube driver for the reverb tank and five 12AX7. Thats the one I have currently. These earlier VK had issues with the EL84 reverb overheating. They came out with a mod to fix it called the Torres Mod. They eventually changed the reverb tube driver to A 6l6. The 3x10 concept I am not sure about but what I do know is it works! Even the keyboard players I minister with compliment the tone of this amp. It has a huge sound. Real full sounding. When I got this amp used from Guitar center it arrived filthy. It smelled musty the feet and the corners had rust on them. The reverb tank was weak sounding. So I called GC and complained and they took another 100.00 off. So I cleaned the amp up real good. Put a new reverb tank and bag in it. Put new corners and feet on it and used a damp rag with vinegar inside the amps cabinet to get the smell out. I also used lysol and fabreeze those frabreeze pop ups I put a fan next to it inside the amp for a couple of weeks. It worked! Now the amp looks great and smells good too! One thing is whoever had it def modded it to fix the EL8 issue. The master volume mod on the back was also a pleasant surprise for me. The only drawback about the Vibro King is its heavy 72lbs. Its also very loud. 60 watts and the reverb is stellar. There is a cool trick I know that you can do If you do not have a master volume on the Vibro King Put your volume at about 7 and take everything else down to 0. Turn on the fat switch Slowly increase your mid up to where you get a nice fat tone at bedroom level. You really dont even need bass or treble but you can a tiny bit if you need to.
The newer ones out now are 20th anniversary models. They are roughly about 3400. They come with special made Jenson speakers that are already broken in. I prefer the blue frames over the jensons although I have not heard the broken in ones.
The Vibro King has graced many stages over the 20 years its been out and still continues to be a favorite amongst many Top players today. Jeff Beck has two of them he was using on tour with the Beach Boys. Gary Clark Jr. and Pete Townsend both use the Vibro King. Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Ronny Wood as well as many others have used the King. Its Fenders cream of the crop Imho.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 23, 2014 2:51:17 GMT -7
Funnily enough, Aynsley Lister has one recently purchased as back ups to his two cherished Marshall 2144 JMP50 - it sounds fantastic. Here's a pic of Aynsley's one-off custom built 335 leaning on my Remedy, with him having just done a head to head with Remedy, Vibro King and Marshall 2144 - the Rem more than held its own, but just could not match that Marshall....... The VK sounded killer too
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Post by LT on Mar 23, 2014 8:44:18 GMT -7
That's a sweet setup rev!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2014 23:48:51 GMT -7
Funnily enough, Aynsley Lister has one recently purchased as back ups to his two cherished Marshall 2144 JMP50 - it sounds fantastic. Here's a pic of Aynsley's one-off custom built 335 leaning on my Remedy, with him having just done a head to head with Remedy, Vibro King and Marshall 2144 - the Rem more than held its own, but just could not match that Marshall....... The VK sounded killer too The brown amp next to the remedy is actually a vibroverb. I did a head to head with the remedy and the vibro King and the remedy def held its own. The Remedy is still one of my favorite amps ever. I wish I would have kept my non master version.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 24, 2014 0:40:40 GMT -7
You are quite right, and my bad for not paying close enough attention - oops! I looked back over my pics and info (including this one ), and you are quite correct - he owns a Vibroverb not a VK - doh! No matter, the VV sounded great too
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Post by nmz on Mar 24, 2014 5:56:02 GMT -7
Funnily enough, Aynsley Lister has one recently purchased as back ups to his two cherished Marshall 2144 JMP50 - it sounds fantastic. Here's a pic of Aynsley's one-off custom built 335 leaning on my Remedy, with him having just done a head to head with Remedy, Vibro King and Marshall 2144 - the Rem more than held its own, but just could not match that Marshall....... The VK sounded killer too The brown amp next to the remedy is actually a vibroverb. I did a head to head with the remedy and the vibro King and the remedy def held its own. The Remedy is still one of my favorite amps ever. I wish I would have kept my non master version. Curious Rev, why the non MV? I have been thinking about MV amps lately and the non just seem to breathe so much nicer. But the MV seems to be a nice option to have. Sorry do not mean to hijack!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 14:18:18 GMT -7
The brown amp next to the remedy is actually a vibroverb. I did a head to head with the remedy and the vibro King and the remedy def held its own. The Remedy is still one of my favorite amps ever. I wish I would have kept my non master version. Curious Rev, why the non MV? I have been thinking about MV amps lately and the non just seem to breathe so much nicer. But the MV seems to be a nice option to have. Sorry do not mean to hijack! No problem Thats a great question. I ran the remedy clean and used pedals for my dirt. I never used the overdrive on the Remedy so when I got the master volume version It seemed as though it was a tad bit brighter. It was def more verstatile and useful. Its just the way I was using my remedy live I didnt really need the master volume. I actually felt like the non master was fatter and seemed breathe better but we all hear things differently.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Mar 24, 2014 15:54:52 GMT -7
Curious Rev, why the non MV? I have been thinking about MV amps lately and the non just seem to breathe so much nicer. But the MV seems to be a nice option to have. Sorry do not mean to hijack! No problem Thats a great question. I ran the remedy clean and used pedals for my dirt. I never used the overdrive on the Remedy so when I got the master volume version It seemed as though it was a tad bit brighter. It was def more verstatile and useful. Its just the way I was using my remedy live I didnt really need the master volume. I actually felt like the non master was fatter and seemed breathe better but we all hear things differently. even with the MV maxed and out of circuit? Same speakers as the non-MV? Again, just curious as I couldn't tell the difference before and after, but I certainly don't have the finesse in my ears that many up here do......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 16:15:57 GMT -7
No problem Thats a great question. I ran the remedy clean and used pedals for my dirt. I never used the overdrive on the Remedy so when I got the master volume version It seemed as though it was a tad bit brighter. It was def more verstatile and useful. Its just the way I was using my remedy live I didnt really need the master volume. I actually felt like the non master was fatter and seemed breathe better but we all hear things differently. even with the MV maxed and out of circuit? Same speakers as the non-MV? Again, just curious as I couldn't tell the difference before and after, but I certainly don't have the finesse in my ears that many up here do...... Yes Mv maxed and out of curcuit. same speakers as the non master, It was just a slight difference to me but Im no expert either. Maybe it was just the amp itslef. My first blonde non master may have had something special going on I dont know. Sometimes you get a guitar or an amp that just has some special vibe or tone too it and you end up selling it and then regret it later. I think that was more what I was trying to get across in my post. Nothing at all against the master volume version. I cant tell you how many times I made that mistake. If I was buying a remedy I would def get the master volume version though. It just makes it a more versatile amp. I liked the master volume version better for that aspect especially at home. Tubes also make a difference that Tung Sol in V1 will fatten it up and take away some brightness. I def miss my Z amps. I may be back in the fold eventually I am just waiting for the right amp.
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