ThemBones
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Post by ThemBones on Dec 18, 2013 13:55:18 GMT -7
Here is a picture of my M12 setup from a week or so ago. Avatar 2X12 cab with two greenbacks. Gibson Les Paul Studio Deluxe it doesn't have the binding but I honestly can't tell a darn difference between it and the Standard I used to own.
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Post by heynewguy (Ol’ Bill) on Dec 18, 2013 17:56:31 GMT -7
Nice!
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Post by BritInvasion on Dec 18, 2013 19:02:06 GMT -7
Sweet setup. Nice looking Lester!
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Post by BradPaisleyFan (Pat) on Dec 18, 2013 20:42:47 GMT -7
I agree. Beautiful!
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Post by jimmydeez on Dec 19, 2013 4:54:34 GMT -7
Sweet!
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Post by doctorice on Dec 19, 2013 7:32:29 GMT -7
Bet the sound is killer with that cab. Nice!
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ThemBones
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Post by ThemBones on Dec 19, 2013 9:25:59 GMT -7
Thanks guys. I have been real happy with it for sure. I am still getting used to how hi-fi it sounds but I dig it. I am worried that it has opened up a new world of boutique amps and I may be in too deep!
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Post by doctorice on Dec 19, 2013 11:44:39 GMT -7
I am worried that it has opened up a new world of boutique amps and I may be in too deep! It's too late. Sorry. Join the club
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 19, 2013 12:58:07 GMT -7
The M12 is a tad bit "hi-fi" compared to some of Doc's other creations, but mostly this comes out IMHO when you are playing really clean. When you add a little dirt or modulation to the tone an amazing thing happens - Doc brilliantly tuned that EF86 front end to add SOME complexity to the tone but not so much that pedals dont sound very good. I love Matchless amps, for example, when its just the amp but stick some pedals in front and they begin to lose their magic. Why, because they squeeze too much out of the EF86 front end and it clouds up the tone instead of allowing a clear path for the tone to expand via pedals. Stick pedals in front of the M12 and that's where the magic begins. So, hi-fi when clean? Sure... add pedals - straight up magic!
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ThemBones
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Post by ThemBones on Dec 19, 2013 13:09:29 GMT -7
The M12 is a tad bit "hi-fi" compared to some of Doc's other creations, but mostly this comes out IMHO when you are playing really clean. When you add a little dirt or modulation to the tone an amazing thing happens - Doc brilliantly tuned that EF86 front end to add SOME complexity to the tone but not so much that pedals dont sound very good. I love Matchless amps, for example, when its just the amp but stick some pedals in front and they begin to lose their magic. Why, because they squeeze too much out of the EF86 front end and it clouds up the tone instead of allowing a clear path for the tone to expand via pedals. Stick pedals in front of the M12 and that's where the magic begins. So, hi-fi when clean? Sure... add pedals - straight up magic! Yes I am getting used to it. The 2x12 greenbacks helped that some, I am thinking maybe an EM Drive set low that I can leave on all the time may be nice. I don't dislike it, but it is just so different to me than any amp I have had before. Blues Jr, Classic 30, Classic 50, Hot Rod Deluxe etc...
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Post by Jefferson on Dec 19, 2013 22:32:08 GMT -7
I definitely like a clean boost on all the time. Lizard leg draconis for me...
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Post by skinvoyager on Dec 20, 2013 13:44:08 GMT -7
I don't dislike it, but it is just so different to me than any amp I have had before. Blues Jr, Classic 30, Classic 50, Hot Rod Deluxe etc... I owned all those except the Classic 50. I recently purchased another Classic 30 for a spare/practice amp. It and the Blues Jr. (which I still own) are certainly less hi-fi. They have a more rounded, squishier, forgiving tone. At certain volumes, there's something nice about those qualities, but when gigging they fall apart for me compared to the M12 (especially the Blues Jr.). Play around with the tone controls on the M12--they're very interactive, and can add a good amount of gain. Just by finding the sweet spot of cranking the bass and treble a bit, you may discover you don't need an "always on" pedal.
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ThemBones
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Post by ThemBones on Dec 20, 2013 13:50:52 GMT -7
I don't dislike it, but it is just so different to me than any amp I have had before. Blues Jr, Classic 30, Classic 50, Hot Rod Deluxe etc... I owned all those except the Classic 50. I recently purchased another Classic 30 for a spare/practice amp. It and the Blues Jr. (which I still own) are certainly less hi-fi. They have a more rounded, squishier, forgiving tone. At certain volumes, there's something nice about those qualities, but when gigging they fall apart for me compared to the M12 (especially the Blues Jr.). Play around with the tone controls on the M12--they're very interactive, and can add a good amount of gain. Just by finding the sweet spot of cranking the bass and treble a bit, you may discover you don't need an "always on" pedal. Yeah man I posted in your Classic 30 thread. I played the Blues Jr and the M12 through the same speaker, there was a clear difference in the sound. I have also owned: Mesa Boogie F50, Rivera Pubster, JTM 45, Fender Twin, liked them all, sold for mostly stupid reasons. Trying to hold out and get used to this one before I just sell it for something else...
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Post by doctorice on Dec 20, 2013 13:57:32 GMT -7
Play around with the tone controls on the M12--they're very interactive, and can add a good amount of gain. Just by finding the sweet spot of cranking the bass and treble a bit, you may discover you don't need an "always on" pedal. Some Dr Z amps, the Monza, for example, "get their gain on" fairly low on the volume knob. The M12 can get a good bit of gain, even using the low input setting, by moving the volume up to 2 o'clock or more and putting B and T well beyond noon. But the amp also accommodates those who like to run their dirt boxes with fairly hot settings of the volume or output level on the pedals.
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