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Post by Michael Bartee on Jul 21, 2007 11:52:18 GMT -7
Ted weber (Weber VST) mailed me a 12" speaker gasket, I placed it between the Beam Blocker mounting strap and the V30 to increase the clearence between the speaker surround and the mounting strap and it has cured the problem. No rattle of any knid now and it works great to soften up the bite of the V30. The combination of the V30 finally being broken in and the Beam Blocker has me re-thinking wheather I will even need to change speakers in the Ghia 1x12 combo. I can't say enough about the great customer service I got from Mr. Weber. In this day and age it's almost unheard of and I wanted to make sure everyone knew. I will definatly be ordering from him again.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 21, 2007 12:15:27 GMT -7
Ted Weber is a class act all the way.
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Post by bookmobile on Sept 26, 2007 19:01:16 GMT -7
Has anyone used these with a ZBest? I have a ZBest with two Weber Alnico Silver Bells (which I love). I don't have a problem with too much high end (I like it bright). I do have a problem with volume. I'm ALWAYS too loud. No matter what i do. I have a Hotplate but hate wat it does to the tone of the amp. The whole point of using a 30 watt (Mazerati) head and a 212 is to get the tone I need at a reasonable volume. That's why I don't play my 100 watt '73 Marshall Super Lead through a 412! Will the beam blockers help me out in volume department? How considerable is the vol drop?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Sept 26, 2007 19:20:00 GMT -7
Volume drop is not really what they do. They spread the sound out so that there isn't a specific place in front of the cab where the sound pressure is causing bleeding from the eyesockets. It may seem like that's volume drop but it's not. If you try it, you'll see what I mean.
You might do better with an Airbrake. I'm addicted to mine. It lets me run the amp as hot as I like and it does NOT color the tone. Check the sounds forum to see what I mean - I did a multi-clip test that really demonstrates the Airbrake is pretty much straight through.
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Post by taylordaly on Sept 29, 2007 8:55:44 GMT -7
Got my beam blockers installed in my new 2x12 yesterday. Heres what I think:
They do disperse tone well. I didnt so much by them to eliminate beam as I did to disperse. Im not currently playing live so I just wanted the full range of my amp to "fill the room" better if that makes sense. It certainly helped.
Standing over or around the amp now is more full. Ill put it this way: before the bbs I could stand next to the amp and then move back to 10ft in front of the amp and there was a tremendous difference. At 10ft you could hear all the notes fully, but standing close to the amp sounded like only maybe 60% of the fullness (lost clarity, etc.) You know the drill....its the same reason people tilt their amps.
Now with the Beam Blockers installed when I stand over or next to the amp I would say the amount of tone heard has been increased to say 90%. Its not 100% dispersion since I can still stand in front of the amp and hear "more", but its certainly reall helped. Keep in mind though, this isnt really the purpose of the Beam Blockers as I understand it.
What the BBs have definately done is improved the tone standing in front of the amp. Its reduced the icepick and has had almost a compressor type effect. The full range of bass-mid-treb is now clearer and better mixed it seems.
Who knows. For $18 I would certainly put these in most if not every amp I own.
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Post by bluzman on Sept 29, 2007 9:59:14 GMT -7
+1 on the Beam Blockers!
I bought a bunch of them in differnt sizes for different cabs. I find that I like them best when I use them with an amp with the CUT control... I can re-adjust it to still have it "feel" right. I am trying a cabinet out now with my new Rx Jr. head to see what that does!!
My Maz Jr. combos sound great in smaller rooms and when we aren't mic'd and I'm not blowing away the people in line with my amp. When we are mic'd there is usually enough space where I can place and point the amp to where it sounds good anyways... but in the smaller situations I really like the beam blockers!
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Post by kc on Oct 1, 2007 7:16:08 GMT -7
Just played out Saturday with my Ghia and 1x12 cab with Celestion Blue .... got the comment from the guy directly in the line of fire from my speaker (probably 30 feet away) that all he could hear was my amp (CG volume @ 9 o'clock!). BB has just been ordered, I'll report back once I install and use it.
kc
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Post by bluzman on Oct 1, 2007 8:03:48 GMT -7
Make sure it's not the back of the cabinet, speaker wires inside the cabinet or the jack cup for the speaker connection. I've run into this with the Ghia and my Rx Jr. I have also had a 15" Beam Blocker rattle. The round part separated from the arms and I put some rubber in between there.
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Post by telejas on Oct 1, 2007 21:49:06 GMT -7
I'll vouch for the Beam Blockers!!
I have a Z cab with a weber alnico blue and alnico silver bell (both 50wts) and I thougth it sounded GREAT, and then I installed a set of BB's and let me tell you!!! I no longer cut anyones head off in the front row or at the front table and I can actually turn up a bit more since it's not so directional. As Benttop says, it doesnt change your tone, but makes more of the same tone and bigger.
I'm gonna get one for my 1x12 Maz Sr combo soon........ I highly recommend them.
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Post by Cotton on Oct 4, 2007 12:10:36 GMT -7
I've got BB's on a D13 212 slant cab with a Celestion Blue and G12H30 70th Annv. I also have them on a THD 212 that has a Fane Alinco and a Weber P12R. And I have a 210 cab that will get the BB's soon. The pros and cons in this posting are very well stated. And any prospective buyer could easily decide to try or not from reading this posting.
For me, the sum total of all the pros and cons is.... I like 'em. And I'll buy someone's 10's and 12's 4 inchers that are available....
I like the sound dispersal that takes the volume aimed at my calf and brings it up to me ears, WHILE the cab is still on the floor and felt through the floor. And yep.... I can crank the OD and volume a little more without anyone's concern. And with the BB's, I'm much less interested in placing a plexiglass panel in front of my cabs now to control volume I might use for a certain gain tone.
As I write this, my 410 cab sits on top of its 26 inch tall ATA case lid. That cab is elevated in order to get the sound at my ear level. With this cab I might start with 2 BB's on the bottom and leave the top speakers clear.... kinda check the ying-yang between the two pairs...
I also have plans to intall the BB's on the front of a 212 baffle. Before BB's, I had seen duct tape on cab grills during recording and rehearsal sessions that served the same purpose.
Good Luck with your choices!
Cotton
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Post by dendog55 on Jul 16, 2017 8:50:59 GMT -7
About 10 years ago I was thinking about getting Beam Blockers but didn't want the $36 plus shipping expense if I didn't like them. So I put a piece of gaffer tape across the front of my Marshall Bluesbreaker and the difference, and benefit was immediately apparent. I would have continued to simply use the tape but after a few weeks it started leaving a sticky residue. Every amp I've had since has had Beam Blockers -- Vox AC15, Maz Jr combo, and now a Remedy w/ a 1x12 Z cab. Try the gaffer tape and see what you think!
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