eleloy
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Post by eleloy on Jun 1, 2013 0:30:07 GMT -7
I tried yesterday a Carr rambler and ...
Rambler is much more quiet ... There is no noise at all... Hiss or hum is equal to zero. Maz has a sssshhhh sound that is inperceptible when playing but it is allways there....
rambler tone is great but a little too "rounded" less dinamics than Maz.
I miss a master volume in the rambler.
Maz chime is amazing.
After trying Rambler for a possible exchange with my maz, maz returns to home. The rambler's owner thinks the hissss of my maz is inadmissible and i miss the chime and the dinamics of my Maz.
i like to read someone who has a reverb model with absolutely no noise. Then i will send mine to a tech.
oh, sorry for my english, please.
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Post by digs57 on Jun 1, 2013 7:45:53 GMT -7
I have the reverb model...I guess I can live with what im hearing out of it.I also just cant compare it to anything really.Wouldnt want to change anything.Although I do hear the perceptible shhhh...its what it is.
The maz does what it does and another amp does what it does I guess is the way I look at it.(my two cents).
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Post by BritInvasion on Jun 1, 2013 8:06:29 GMT -7
Make sure the chassis bolts are tight. If they are a little loose , you will get ground hum.
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gene
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Post by gene on Jun 1, 2013 8:22:39 GMT -7
Hi Eleloy, Between inperceptible and inadmissible, I would favor inperceptible: if you don't hear hum/hiss when playing, then everything is OK. Enjoy the rest: chime and dynamics of the Maz18 that are unique.
PS: I like your english, it's like mine!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 11:00:32 GMT -7
I've never noticed any noise with my Maz jr. Mine is NR model so not sure if that makes a diff or not. Glad the Maz came back with you!
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Post by Rik on Jun 1, 2013 17:55:50 GMT -7
The only noise I hear is great tone out of my maz!
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Post by strattmaz on Jun 4, 2013 2:35:21 GMT -7
I have a Carr Rambler amp and Maz 18 combo rev ( both brand new ). Rambler's completely quiet when I'm not playing. Maz 18 has a slight noise,i can live with that hum/hiss Sold my Maz 8 because of too much hum/hiss ( ssshhhh )-That was due to the construction i think 1 Output tube - (Singel ended) An amplifier technician told me it
Strattmaz
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Post by Mark and his Maz on Jun 4, 2013 4:39:01 GMT -7
I've been told that the slight hum / shhhhhh sound is due to the amp being wired hotter than other amps.
I have noticed this sound only at home in our music room where there is very little / no ambient sound in a relatively small space. In church i have to strain my ears to hear it.
Even at home, once you start playing you can't hear any humming or shhhing.
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eleloy
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Post by eleloy on Jun 4, 2013 6:32:27 GMT -7
I've been told that the slight hum / shhhhhh sound is due to the amp being wired hotter than other amps. I have noticed this sound only at home in our music room where there is very little / no ambient sound in a relatively small space. In church i have to strain my ears to hear it. Even at home, once you start playing you can't hear any humming or shhhing. However there are people who say that their Maz is "deadly quiet".
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Post by Mark and his Maz on Jun 4, 2013 6:43:19 GMT -7
Maybe everyone is talking about different situations? Guitar plugged in vs not etc. When I have nothing plugged into the input for example i can only hear the faint hum ( of the transformer I'm guessing?) but when I plug in my tele or strat I get a lot more hum which I would presume has something to do with the fact i hv a single coil guitar plugged in.
Even in the questest room with my noisiest guitar, I've not noticed any hum which is enough to annoy me or make me think something is wrong.
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eleloy
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Post by eleloy on Jun 4, 2013 6:50:48 GMT -7
I can hear it even when guitar is not plugged in, but only in a quiet room, never when playing...
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Post by greenblues58 on Jun 4, 2013 8:10:03 GMT -7
I think any amp in a small quiet room and facing you directly will sound noisey to some extent in terms of hiss and hum. Once you get into a rehearsal space or small venue with a band any hiss or hum is totally lost in the mix and not a problem. My maz 18 nr is deadly quite with just a cable and any guitar plugged in but start introducing pedals and effects and the noise level increases quite considerably,even with an isolated and filtered power supply(digital pedals the worst culprits) ,in a small room but at gig volumes unperceptable. In my practise room at home I get some hum ,even with humbuckers,when facing certain directions and guitar volume at full but knock it down to 7/8 and it goes. This does not happen at gig volumes at venues so is just the electrical environment in my house. At the end of the day play the Maz as it was designed to do so at stage volumes then it makes all the right noises. If you want silence buy a s/s or digital modelling amp IMHO.
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Post by Mark and his Maz on Jun 4, 2013 8:28:48 GMT -7
I think any amp in a small quiet room and facing you directly will sound noisey to some extent in terms of hiss and hum. Once you get into a rehearsal space or small venue with a band any hiss or hum is totally lost in the mix and not a problem. My maz 18 nr is deadly quite with just a cable and any guitar plugged in but start introducing pedals and effects and the noise level increases quite considerably,even with an isolated and filtered power supply(digital pedals the worst culprits) ,in a small room but at gig volumes unperceptable. In my practise room at home I get some hum ,even with humbuckers,when facing certain directions and guitar volume at full but knock it down to 7/8 and it goes. This does not happen at gig volumes at venues so is just the electrical environment in my house. At the end of the day play the Maz as it was designed to do so at stage volumes then it makes all the right noises. If you want silence buy a s/s or digital modelling amp IMHO. +1 Cept maybe about the s/s thing. When I first started playing my amp was solid state and there was loads of hiss going on!
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eleloy
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Post by eleloy on Jun 6, 2013 3:47:02 GMT -7
I think any amp in a small quiet room and facing you directly will sound noisey to some extent in terms of hiss and hum. Once you get into a rehearsal space or small venue with a band any hiss or hum is totally lost in the mix and not a problem. My maz 18 nr is deadly quite with just a cable and any guitar plugged in but start introducing pedals and effects and the noise level increases quite considerably,even with an isolated and filtered power supply(digital pedals the worst culprits) ,in a small room but at gig volumes unperceptable. In my practise room at home I get some hum ,even with humbuckers,when facing certain directions and guitar volume at full but knock it down to 7/8 and it goes. This does not happen at gig volumes at venues so is just the electrical environment in my house. At the end of the day play the Maz as it was designed to do so at stage volumes then it makes all the right noises. If you want silence buy a s/s or digital modelling amp IMHO. +1 Cept maybe about the s/s thing. When I first started playing my amp was solid state and there was loads of hiss going on! The post is titled "MAz 18 jr reverb. vs. Carr Rambler" Carr Rambler is 100% quiet while not playing and its not a S/s or digital modelling. I said the slight noise like ssshhh is present even when the guitar is not plugged in. I'm not talking about the hum produced by the single coils pickups or something... I'm very happy with my amp and I only want to know if this little noise is "normal" or not.
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Post by greenblues58 on Jun 6, 2013 7:17:46 GMT -7
The information re my Maz was there for you " My Maz is deadly quiet with just a cable and guitar plugged in" Its the valves(tubes) that create hiss with volume and gain. I have tried Nos preamp valves in my maz and they hiss but its silent with new JJ,s in. Perhaps trying different valves in the preamp or PI positions will cure you of the hiss you are experiencing.
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Post by Mark and his Maz on Jun 6, 2013 8:47:03 GMT -7
The s/s comment was a side comment as I had agreed with everything Greenblues has said apart from that fact I have experienced noisy solid states before. Wasn't trying to go off topic to your original post.
Believe we'd chipped in with our experiences with our own Maz's already. In my case, I hear a faint hum in a dead silent room, some hum when I have a tele or strat plugged in, less hum when I have my humbuckered les Paul plugged in. In a live setting, even with the single coiled guitars, I can't hear the hum.
No experience swapping tubes in my Maz yet.
Edit. Sorry, I'd not read the bit about the shhhh being there even with no guitar. That's different from what I have been experiencing in that case.
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