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Post by z4me on Jan 29, 2012 18:21:06 GMT -7
I know the two amps are somewhat related in the front end config, but what are some similarities and differences between the two tone wise? I have never played a 66, but did have a 28 briefly.
I purchased a 28 to replace my Ghia a little while ago, I could only keep one, but the Ghia won out. Like both amps, but playing with my tele, I preferred the el84 chime a little more. I also have a Les Paul.
The 28 has some good qualities that I liked, but what I did not like as much with the 28 is what I perceived as quite a bit of mid-range. With only bass and treble knobs, can't back off the mid-range. I played the 28 through a couple of different speakers and could hear the elevated mid-range through both, especially when playing clean.
Does the 66 also output this higher level of mid-range?
I also have a Stang Ray which I like the best over my Ghia, so how might the 66 compare with the Ray as well as to the Ghia? The Ray seems like it has scooped mids which I tend to prefer.
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Post by bluegroove99 on Jan 29, 2012 20:32:15 GMT -7
The 66 is a very fat-sounding amplifier. Not to say it's mids-heavy, though it has a very round tone. The Stang would be a good route for you to go if you dig a bit more chime and scoop to your tone. I love mids thus the reason I have 2 66's This is what I love about the Doc's amps......there's an amp for every taste Happy tone chasing!
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Post by mfirst on Jan 30, 2012 12:46:23 GMT -7
The 66 is a great amp. It has some similar traits to the Z28. I'm not going to say you wouldn't like it, cause like I said, it is a great amp. But I don't think words like chime, or scooped mids have ever been used to describe the 66.
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Post by eggman on Feb 4, 2012 12:01:32 GMT -7
Howdy,
Threads like this make yours truly lust for an opportunity to play my capo'd LP Special (in open G) through either of these amps turned WAY up! LOL ;D
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Post by Sean on Feb 4, 2012 12:43:41 GMT -7
I sold my Rt66 and kept the Z28, fwiw.
66 wasn't really my taste, and needed to really be cranked. the 28 is just a perfect amp - likes pedals at all volumes, and needs nothing to help it at high volumes!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 17:12:34 GMT -7
I guess the obvious difference between the Route 66 and the Z28 would be the output tubes. 6v6's will break up a lot quicker than the kt66's. The Route has a bit of low mids going on. It's part of what makes the 66 so special. Some speakers can make a mid hump more pronounced. I've never used a 28, but can see where a Vintage 30 might be a speaker to avoid as it already has a very pronounced high mid range. I think the Stang Ray was developed to replace an ac-30, so it will be a world of difference compared to the Route and Z28.
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2012 6:09:56 GMT -7
The pre amps of the two are the same, to it's really up to the power tubes and output transformer. Which the the 66 is 'ultralinear'. The 66 has a mid 'bloom' when pushed hard. It's not to everyone's taste. Not to mention the 66 is louder.
I made the mistake of using a V30 with the Route 66. too many mids.
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