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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 3, 2006 8:09:23 GMT -7
You've all seen this PRS:  Well it is definitely a player, but I'm not getting off on its pickups at all. Very middy honking sound coming out of there. Well this is a mahogany body with a maple cap - it seems to be I should be able to get pretty decent Les Paul tones from this rig with the right pups. I have been thinking about SD Pearly Gates since I have one of those on a Frankenstein Tele here and it rocks, but what I would like to know is if anyone else here has traded pups on a singlecut, what pups did you switch to and how do you like it now? Any other suggestions? I see that Lollar is located just a couple miles from here - anyone try his humbucker? What about Fralins? Any other ideas? |
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Post by prowler on Apr 3, 2006 8:23:18 GMT -7
I recently replaced the pups in my McCarty with WCR pups. I went with a Darkburst in the bridge & a Crossroads in the neck. The WCR pickups really opened up my PRS's tone. Clear & articulate with a nice bite to them. You may want to look into them as well. I would contact Jim @ WCR & tell him what you are looking for in terms of tone. He'll be able to help.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 3, 2006 8:32:52 GMT -7
I recently replaced the pups in my McCarty with WCR pups. I went with a Darkburst in the bridge & a Crossroads in the neck. The WCR pickups really opened up my PRS's tone. Clear & articulate with a nice bite to them. You may want to look into them as well. I would contact Jim @ WCR & tell him what you are looking for in terms of tone. He'll be able to help. Thanks prowler - I hadn't heard of WCR until seeing them mentioned on this forum. Seems a lot of folks like them though. Can you get a nice Duane Allman tone from those? |
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Post by bluzsteel on Apr 3, 2006 9:20:00 GMT -7
Grissom told me that he's working with PRS on a new Bucker, might be a while , he puts Lollars in his. I hate my PRS pickups
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Post by prowler on Apr 3, 2006 12:10:51 GMT -7
You can get an Allman tone from them. Check out the WCR website for some great clips. www.crcoils.com/ |
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 3, 2006 14:01:23 GMT -7
You can get an Allman tone from them. Check out the WCR website for some great clips. www.crcoils.com/Just got done listening there - whoa! Some nice tones from those. They're a bit spendy, but I see why you like them. Someone else mentioned Bill Lawrence and I hadn't thought of those either. Still have to do some sniffing around there. No sound clips on the Lollar site that I could see, but he's apparently one of the industry experts. But he says he doesn't like humbuckers, so maybe not...  |
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Post by Lefty on Apr 3, 2006 14:36:19 GMT -7
Lollars=$300, doesn't like buckers...hmmmm
Fralins=$240, I've heard his strong point is singles...I can attest to that! hmmmm
WCR=$260, like to hear some clean sound clips
I dunno Davey...seems to get kinda $$ REALLY QUICK!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 3, 2006 15:09:29 GMT -7
Lollars=$300, doesn't like buckers...hmmmm Fralins=$240, I've heard his strong point is singles...I can attest to that! hmmmm WCR=$260, like to hear some clean sound clips I dunno Davey...seems to get kinda $$ REALLY QUICK! And I can get a set of SD Pearly Gates (and I know I like them) for $178.00 out the door. DOUBLE Hmmmm.... |
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Post by prowler on Apr 3, 2006 15:42:08 GMT -7
I tried a friends guitar that has a Pearly Gate in the bridge position. It sounded pretty good but it wasn't what I was looking for. Again, not a bad pup just not what I wanted.
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Post by amakitalo on Apr 4, 2006 18:42:55 GMT -7
I have Gibson Classic 57's in my semihollow. Nice pickups. Check also SD 59's and Seth Lovers.
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Post by Curt on Apr 4, 2006 20:04:53 GMT -7
Steve,
I ain't heard 'em yet, But my Bud Jerry Amalfitano is winding 'buckers these dayZ, $200 a pair I think, Give Jerry a call and talk with him about your tone.
Tell him I sent ya if'n ya don't mind.
Curt
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Post by Curt on Apr 4, 2006 20:05:40 GMT -7
Also, I think I've mentioned before, I had a singlecut with PRS #7 pups..YUCK
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Post by taswegian on Apr 4, 2006 20:43:34 GMT -7
I'd be tempted to try some Fralin P-90's in that baby.
But I'm sure the Fralin Humbuckers would kill.
Or Maybe some Tom Holmes?
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Post by aruntang on Apr 4, 2006 20:47:37 GMT -7
Grissom told me that he's working with PRS on a new Bucker, might be a while , he puts Lollars in his. I hate my PRS pickups +1 on the Lollar Imperials. Man I did not know Grissom has been using lollars....cool. |
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Post by real oldster on Apr 4, 2006 21:13:28 GMT -7
I 2nd the Gibson Classic '57s. The true single-cut tone IMO and they're reasonable. ;D
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Post by zdogma on Apr 5, 2006 6:17:57 GMT -7
Hi Steve. Lollar's pickups are very, very good vintage paf style humbuckers. More pleasing to the ear than most and BEST cleans I have heard in a humbucker. If you wan't a pearly gates style bucker, he'll do that, but his standard wind is a bit clearer than a pearly gates. Here are some great clips by Jim Soloway from the gear page of the lollar imperials: www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=131978If price is an issue, try this fellow: www.tonefordays.com Jon Moore is his name. Very nice guy, but you have to know what you want, 'cause he only does custom winds. Very reliable, quick, and prices are excellent ($150 or 170$ with covers per pair). The clips on his site are useless (He knows, i've told him). I'll try to record you some that are better if I have some time. His pickups can sound like anything you want, and have that great scatter wound mid that you can't get with the commercial winders. Here are some reviews of Jon's pickups: www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data2/Jon_Moore/Humbucker-01.htmlHope this helps. |
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 5, 2006 8:06:55 GMT -7
Also, I think I've mentioned before, I had a singlecut with PRS #7 pups..YUCK Yeah, that's what this has in it, and they just don't cut it. Great guitar making nasty nasal sounds. I wonder if anyone at PRS listens to these things? No matter, a swap out will occur and it will be great... |
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 5, 2006 8:11:12 GMT -7
Hi Steve. Lollar's pickups are very, very good vintage paf style humbuckers. More pleasing to the ear than most and BEST cleans I have heard in a humbucker. If you wan't a pearly gates style bucker, he'll do that, but his standard wind is a bit clearer than a pearly gates. Here are some great clips by Jim Soloway from the gear page of the lollar imperials: www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=131978If price is an issue, try this fellow: www.tonefordays.com Jon Moore is his name. Very nice guy, but you have to know what you want, 'cause he only does custom winds. Very reliable, quick, and prices are excellent ($150 or 170$ with covers per pair). The clips on his site are useless (He knows, i've told him). I'll try to record you some that are better if I have some time. His pickups can sound like anything you want, and have that great scatter wound mid that you can't get with the commercial winders. Here are some reviews of Jon's pickups: www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data2/Jon_Moore/Humbucker-01.htmlHope this helps. Wow, thanks for the pointer to those Lollar clips - holy cow, those sound great! Karma for you! |
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Post by kruzty on Apr 5, 2006 8:16:54 GMT -7
Yeah, that's what this has in it, and they just don't cut it. Great guitar making nasty nasal sounds. I wonder if anyone at PRS listens to these things? No matter, a swap out will occur and it will be great... Maybe they think everyone should sound like Santana... |
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Post by JChance on Apr 5, 2006 8:19:57 GMT -7
"Maybe they think everyone should sound like Santana..."
YIKES!
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Post by squeallydan on Apr 5, 2006 9:07:48 GMT -7
BTW That guitar is beautiful! You've all seen this PRS: Well it is definitely a player, but I'm not getting off on its pickups at all. Very middy honking sound coming out of there. Well this is a mahogany body with a maple cap - it seems to be I should be able to get pretty decent Les Paul tones from this rig with the right pups. I have been thinking about SD Pearly Gates since I have one of those on a Frankenstein Tele here and it rocks, but what I would like to know is if anyone else here has traded pups on a singlecut, what pups did you switch to and how do you like it now? Any other suggestions? I see that Lollar is located just a couple miles from here - anyone try his humbucker? What about Fralins? Any other ideas? |
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 5, 2006 11:06:06 GMT -7
BTW That guitar is beautiful! Thanks! I had to give up a pretty nice Taylor for it, but I had two Taylors, so I still have a good acoustic. AND this! |
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Post by zdogma on Apr 5, 2006 15:14:37 GMT -7
Steve- Posted some sounds with the Moore pickups I had mentioned. As usual I make no claims about the playing  |
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Post by Paul (TRANE) on Apr 5, 2006 15:30:31 GMT -7
Great looking guitar benttop!! Any thoughts on the Voodoo 59 Humbuckers? voodoopickups.com/They look interesting. Based on sound files they sound pretty good too. toneninja.net/paf.htmThe website with the sound files are of different types of PAF styled pickups. Paul |
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 5, 2006 16:14:46 GMT -7
Steve- Posted some sounds with the Moore pickups I had mentioned. As usual I make no claims about the playing I thought those were pretty nice clips. More on that thread coming up. Thanks! |
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Post by bks on Apr 7, 2006 17:51:08 GMT -7
Heya Steve,
The Fralin Split Singles that I put in one of my CE-22s are amazing. He calls them "P-92s", and they pretty much nail the P-90 tone, but they're quiet because of the split (a la P-Bass pups). Needless to say, I love 'em. Clear and full, tight from top to bottom. If you're heading up Seattle-way next week, lemme know and I'll meet you at ECG so you can have a listen...
Brian
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 7, 2006 19:09:52 GMT -7
Thanks I'll consider that. I hadn't heard of these pickups before - got to do some research now. Thanks!
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Post by DoobieK on Apr 8, 2006 10:11:37 GMT -7
We spend $1,000 or more on a guitar and more than that on an amp, then want to cut costs on the very part of the rig that first shapes the sound?
Wagners are worth the dough. Fralins are worth the dough. Don't know about Lollars and personally didn't care for the Voodoos. I spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars trying different pickups that I didn't like before finding Fralins and Wagners. If you want a real PAF sound, some money may need to be spent. Seriously, The Gibson Angus Young is a nice sounding semi-hotter pup too but it isn't what I would consider to be cheap either.
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Post by prowler on Apr 8, 2006 10:42:22 GMT -7
I'm with you DoobieK. WCR's are the best sounding pups I've heard in a long, long time.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Apr 8, 2006 10:53:47 GMT -7
Actually this PRS was somewhat over $3K!  But I totally agree with you on the pickup cost issue - if the right sound can be produced, I'm willing to pay for it. I've seen some great suggestions here, and I already have some pickups by Fralin that I really like so he already has a bit of an advantage. But I didn't realize how many folks are making really great pickups out there! Some of them are amazing! This will be a hard selection just for that reason. |
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